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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 19, 2005, 12:53 am PDT

WHAT A LIAR-

I am shocked. How long did it take that girl to make up this story?  I know at least 3 1/2 years.  I knew Daniel personally and he was one of the few wholesome boys around. respectable, good head on his shoulders, took care of himself mentally and physically.  

Her parents know she is lying - make her fess up to her crime-  she is still your daughter and always will be. but come on- she even stole your car and killed a good person in a fit of rage. what more do you need? you don't steal a car to go meet some one that supposably threatens to hurt you. COMMON SENSE HERE!   I am sure she has had a lot of time to think- 

 
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October 19, 2005, 1:07 am PDT

agree

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I was a very good friend of Daniels. I can't believe there is still the question of if Brandi is Guilty or not. This went to court and she is in prison for what she did. Daniel was the most loving and caring person I have ever known and for someone to say that he said he would kill himself if she left him or that he stepped out in front of her car is crazy. Brandi is where she belongs. Even if she serve's her whole sentence, she will have a full life to live, does Daniel? NO. She deserve's everyday she gets in prison and I hope it's hell because all Daniel's family and friends are living that everyday.
I AGREE WITH YOU= DANIEL WAS VERY LOVING AND CARING. HE MAY NOT OF HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP W/ HIS PARENTS BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM BAD. DANIEL MADE A POINT TO PROVE HE WAS NOT LIKE HIS PARENTS AND COULD BE SEEN IN HIS ACTIONS. HE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO LIFE NOT TO END IT-       BRANDI DID THAT FOR HIM- IN A BLINK OF AN EYE!
 
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October 19, 2005, 5:59 am PDT

For Stephy or family...

I'm a little confused as to how many calls there were that night to 911.  Did Crystal actually call 911 while Brandi was there?  At one point I thought when she was talking about dialing the 9-1 and then hearing the crash and dropping the phone that someone had already called 911 once to report that there was trouble.  If Brandi left, returned and sat on top of the hill for even 5 minutes instead of 15 you'd think the police would have responded to the first 911 call.  If they had been there Brandi probably would have returned home instead of driving down the hill toward Daniel & Steph.  Around here police respond to EVERY 911 call - even if someone says during the call "false alarm - no problem". 
 
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October 19, 2005, 6:11 am PDT

Daniel's Threatened Suicide

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Dr. Phil stated that Daniel threatened to commit suicide if Brandi left him. She made it clear it was over and, while LEAVING HIM he stepped out in front of her car. It sounds like a suicide to me!  She has served more time than child molesters, child rapists and murderers. Let her go home.  Daniel got what he wanted... her and her brother's lives virtually over, and forever scarred, and he wanted to be dead. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's what I heard on the show. It's a sad, sad story.
Brandi also said that Daniel had told her to come return his stuff because he had broken up with her and wanted his stuff back.  That's why she said she stole her dad's car in the middle of the night and went there - because he was threatening to kill her and her brother if she didn't.  Another question:  Why would Brandi have to push her way into Daniel's home if he was expecting her to bring the stuff over that night?  If he was expecting to come that night to talk he'd have been waiting for her - his sister wouldn't have to make him go outside and talk to her.  And I can imagine why Crystal told her brother to take it outside if Brandi arrived on their doorstep at midnight in a foul mood and he had another girlfriend there at the house.  If Brandi felt she had to push her way into the home of someone who had threatened to hurt her if she didn't bring his stuff over, why wouldn't she dump his stuff outside the door and yell "here it is"? 
 
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October 19, 2005, 6:31 am PDT

I agree

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That was a horrible thing to say.
I was shocked when she said that, beings it's 5 years later.
 

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October 19, 2005, 7:21 am PDT

Lie Detector

  

This whole situation is very very sad!!  Arent lie detector tests like 99% accurate?  That is my 2 cents worth... have a test. 

  

That and I have to say Dr. Phil you are soooooo handsome and intelligent. 

  

*hugs* and have a great day!! 


Carrie =) 

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:23 am PDT

5 years later

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I was shocked when she said that, beings it's 5 years later.
I was to but I never knew Shelia before Daniel was taken.  She came into this whole scene after his death.  So I personally can not answer as to why she would state that or why she responds the way that she does.  All that I can answer is that it has brought the Mize's closer from what I have seen.
 
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October 19, 2005, 7:28 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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I'm a little confused as to how many calls there were that night to 911.  Did Crystal actually call 911 while Brandi was there?  At one point I thought when she was talking about dialing the 9-1 and then hearing the crash and dropping the phone that someone had already called 911 once to report that there was trouble.  If Brandi left, returned and sat on top of the hill for even 5 minutes instead of 15 you'd think the police would have responded to the first 911 call.  If they had been there Brandi probably would have returned home instead of driving down the hill toward Daniel & Steph.  Around here police respond to EVERY 911 call - even if someone says during the call "false alarm - no problem". 

Crystal never called 911 until after daniel was hit.  She had tried calling Brandi's house...phones were off the hook...and was about to call 911 when Daniel was accually struck by the car.   

  

MY QUESTION.......Why did brandi remove the phones from the hook before she left the house? Did that show intent? Did she take them off the hook because she knew she wanted to run Daniel down? 

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:42 am PDT

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  I am surprised to see both sets of parents so upset for such a long period after the fact. I have lived through both of my two adopted sons many trips to jail, the suicide of one of them, and now the chronic disability of Schizophrenia of the other. These parents are totally self-absorbed in their grief, giving them a life long reason to feel sorry for themselves and focus their blame outwards. Not only have they managed to not deal with their grief, but are using it to explain their inactivity, lack of action, and the failure to act as adults and responsible parents. Frankly, I think they are thankful they have an excuse to act as lousy parents to their remaining children, filling them with hate, self-loathing, and useless anger, so that these children can carry on the legacy of their parents. I have little more than disdain for the parents. Not only will the lives of Brandi and Daniel be destroyed, but the action, or I should say inaction, of the parents will seal the fate of their remaining children. 

   Both sets of parents need serious counselling for an extended period of time. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:50 am PDT

Admit what truth?

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I would do anything to help her make this situation right but you can't help someone unless they want it.  She obiously doesn't want it if she can't admit the truth yet.  The quote above about "if she is lying then she is suffering"  that is true if she has a conscience......some people are born with out one.  But seeing her on the show crying for herself and her family makes me think that she DOES have one.  I pray for her family because they are dealing with a hard situation to but Brandi can't begin to even deal with it unless she admits to atleast herself what happened that night . 

Thank you sooo much for understanding me and for your support through this.  

Thank You, 

Stephanie 

  

  

I see this repeated over and over again; "if she would admit the truth." 

  

What truth is she supposed to admit?  She has admitted hitting Daniel with the car on accident.  She has admitted lying about her actions that night (sneaking out, tree limb, etc).  She does not deny these things. 

  

Or is she supposed to admit what Daniels family and friends believe to be the truth - that is was intentional? 

  

She is damed if she does and damned if she does not. 

  

I also keep reading on here that she is not remorseful.  All she cares about is hersefl and her family. 

  

Again, she stated she would not be able to live with herself if she did not serve time in prison.  This tells me that she was feeling guilt and remorse at that time and watching her interview, it is obvious she still does - and will for the rest of her life. 

  

It seems to me the problem is that some are outraged because she does in fact care and worry for her own family.  Why would she not?   Some are outraged because she wants out.  Why would she not?  What is expected here?  Do you all expect her to say "Hey, screw my family and screw me.  I want to be here for the rest of my natural life?  Get real.  Is this legitimate?  No. 

  

It seems to me that no one on Daniels side of the fence will ever be happy with anything Brandi may say or do.  This anger has become the lifeline that keeps them in place.  It seems to me that there was much anger and hurt in this family to begin with.  Only now they have a focus of anger other than themselves. 

 
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