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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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March 16, 2006, 4:27 pm PST

Will we ever know the truth?

After watching the show today, seeing the anger in Daniel's parents & sister, just broke my heart.  Brandy's parents hit it right on the nose when they said that Daniels parents just want revenge.  If they continue to live the way they are, with no forgiveness whatsoever in their hearts, they're going to live & die very unhappy and angry lives.  I'm not saying to forgive Brandy for what she did, she said it was an accident, the police ruled it an accident, Daniel's parents are saying it was deliberate.  Who's telling the truth here? There's always 3 sides to every story, his, hers & the truth.  If what Brandy said is true about Daniel threatening her & her brother & with suicide, then that boy had some serious issues of his own that he wasn't handling all that well.  Maybe he did step out in front of the car, who knows? None of us ever will, that's for sure.  Brandy is doing time for the crime, let her serve her time & be done with it. Look at Karla Holmolka here in Canada, she's out after the same sentence due to a plea bargain, 12 years, and her life is hell and probably will be until the day she dies. 

  

If Daniel's mother doesn't find some peace soon, she's liable to do something she'll regret doing later too.  Anger does funny things to people, and it's not fun. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:28 pm PST

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Wow! I couldn't have put together a better location for the dead kids familly than that classy trailer park. Perfect!!

When you are trying to sound high and mighty--check the spelling. 

Living in a trailer park does not mean you deserve to die. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:28 pm PST

Don't ignore your son!

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I watched today's show and I have read some of the messages people have written. I am appauld that people think that she is a murderer, I beleive it was an accident and that she had a bum lawyer that just didn't represent her properly.  But because she was a minor it was up to her parents to provide the best defense they could, and they failed her, not the justice system.  As far as Daniel's parents and sister not giving Brandi a chance, I think Daniel's mom just won't give an inch in this case.  Brandi has stated that Daniel abused her, did his family know he was doing that, does Brandi's family have any information on that?  Many questions that can't be answered and even if they could it won't change the fact that he is dead, and even though Brandi is in prison she is also dead.  Were there police reports filed on Daniel for abuse, probably not.  It's unfortunate that this has destroyed two families but each is suffering in their own ways.  People need to forigve and move on, to Brandi's parents, she may be locked up but you have a son that is headed for trouble and needs guidance, look at h im and help him deal with his feelings or you might end up losing him as well. 
I agree- Brandi's parents need to focus on their son.  Do they want two kids in prison?  Their son needs them.  To Brandi's parents: You still have a son at home- focus on him.  I hope he is in counseling.
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:30 pm PST

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Dr. Phil, 

  

I watched the show on "Cheerleader Scandal" and I must say and this may sound callous. But, Daniel's mom's crying and grief almost seemed fake and over the top. I had a relative who would act like that when she wanted all the attention or wanted someone to fell sorry for her. It just brought back memories. In your jail house interview with Brandi, she mentioned Daniel beating her. Could it be they knew he was abusing her physically/verbally and never did anything about it? Could it be they are angry at themselves? and what better way but to direct it at Brandi and her family. Don't get me wrong, this was a tradic incident. I wasn't there and don't know all the details. But, it was apparent from Daniel's mom and her words and posture that this is about getting back at Brandi and her family and not about justice for her son. They do have alot of anger, I just wonder really who they are angry with? Their son or themselves. Should Brandi be punished? Yes! But to what degree? If it truely was an accident, should not the truth come out? I have to say with today's justice system though, it would not surprise me if Brandi got bad advice from a public defender. Dr. Phil are you going to help get the truth out, to help mend these two families? 

 i think that it is not brandy's falt because daniel should of not jumpet out in frount of the car aand i am really sory for Daniel's family and i know it can be hard i lost a son in a car crash in 2003 so i think Brandy should get out of jail.
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:31 pm PST

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We have not been contacted since the show for an update or otherwise but if you have any questions I would be happy to answer them as best I can
Will she get another trial?
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:32 pm PST

pity party and guilt

Dr Phil, 

I watched today's show.  Brandi's family (especially mother) is in a pity party.  Take their love for her and suggest she make the most of the next nine years.  She could get a degree, leave prison with a profession and goals.  Turn an awful, negative situation around. 

  

Daniel's mother seems to be raging with guilt.  Perhaps she wasn't a good mother.  Telling Brandi's mother about being a P-P mother maybe was about herself.  The guilt is about not being the mother she should/would/could have been to Daniel and now she cannot . I think if Daniel's mother and family loved him the way they profess......Then look at the possitive side of Daniel.. What he did, and how much they enjoyed him "while" he was an active part of their lives... They are cheating Daniel's sister of her joy and happiness in her fleeting youth.  They are being poor role models.  How about turning that anger, blaming-game and guilt tripping into an active and positive energy.  Become involved in bereavment group, MADD, or helping youngsters nationwide that DON"T have parents........ 

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:32 pm PST

Forgiveness

I think that both familys are hurting and I do understand how they both feel. But you do have to forgive. You dont have to forget but to have piece with there son they do need to forgive and move on. As for the other family the daughter is sorry but she does need to do time and I know she is doing time and the time she got is not fair because she will live with this for the rest of her life. But the family who has laost a love one your not going to rest or have any peace until you forgive.
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:36 pm PST

the sad truth

Parents may think they know everything about their kids whether or not if there child would do this or that how is it that anyone but those two kids know that yes he was abusive or would kill himself if she left or if she just finally had enough and took his life to make it stop I myself have been there in life ive never killed anyone but was once considering suicide or a way to make him stop and my family had no idea i was like that til i finally told them one day after it all finally went away thank god, about my agony. These two familys really need to look at the big picture here its to late now to go back hes not coming back shes going to spend more time for what she did or didnt do because she did not fight for the truth she says is true and they both need to heal and see nothings changing nothing but forgiveness is the key i know because i now have a son with the man that once brought me to suicide or worse and forgiveness helped me rid myself from a child molesting father it is the ultimate healing aid and once they find it the son, brother they had will be remembered for the right reasons not for brandi killing him forgiveness doesnt mean wanting her to get out of prison though just a peace withen yourself for Daniel and eachother. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 4:39 pm PST

No attack ment

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There does not need to be an attack here... Sorry that I wanted to stand up for a person, my perseptions are not more valid than yours, they are equal...

I was just stating from my own personal experiences of what I have seen and learned from Psych classes at college about abusive relationships... only stating from what I have learned... I am glad that you have informed me about the information from your work, and I applaud you for what you do, you do a great thing... :)
I was not attacking and used words similiar to your own.  You should volunteer at a shelter, it is eye opening for sure!  Good luck if you are still in college, it's tough work!
 
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March 16, 2006, 4:39 pm PST

03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Dr. Phil stated that Daniel threatened to commit suicide if Brandi left him. She made it clear it was over and, while LEAVING HIM he stepped out in front of her car. It sounds like a suicide to me!  She has served more time than child molesters, child rapists and murderers. Let her go home.  Daniel got what he wanted... her and her brother's lives virtually over, and forever scarred, and he wanted to be dead. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's what I heard on the show. It's a sad, sad story.
 Totally agree with you. It was obviously suicide on the boy's part. Sure he really did not intend to kill
himself but in a fit of rage he jumped in front of the car.  He was responsible for his own actions. The girl should not pay for his actions. She already paid enough for his abusive ways by not being
able to get away from him and having to deal with such a loser like this guy obviously was.  A 17 year old is not mature enough to be able to emotionally deal with
such an abusive person, especially one who tries to manipulate her into staying by telling her he will kill her and her brother.  It is time that this generation we live in stands up for the rights of
victims of emotional and physical abuse. It is time that the abusers suffer the consequences of
their actions and get the treatment they need. This should be a lesson out there to all abusers
of what can happen when they play with other people's lives and refuse to walk away from someone who does not want them around.
 
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