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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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March 16, 2006, 6:59 pm PST

Anger wast lives

I WAS ANGERY FOR YEARS BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPNED TO MY HUSBAND.  THIS ANGER JUST FESTERED INSIDE ME AND MADE ME SICK . IT HAS TAKEN ME A ALONG TIME TO LEARN WHAT WAS HAPPING TO ME.  A FRIND TOLD ME THAT SHE THOUGHT I WAS ANGERY AN I KNEEDED TO LET IT GO.  THE FAMILEYS NEED TO FORGIVE AND FIND A WAY GO ON ,THEIR OUTHER CHILDREN NEED THEM. IF THEY DON"T THE ANGER THEY DISPLAED ON TO DAY WILL COMSUM THEIR LIVES LIKZE IT DID MINE FOR YEARS.  
 
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March 16, 2006, 6:59 pm PST

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The boy's mother was obviously no kind of mother, but she sure latched onto anger over her son's death -- I recognize her as the kind of people she is and her type would rather fight than eat. I'm sure her son was at fault for jumping out in front of the girl -- it seems very much like he used her to kill him much like those 'suicide by cop' people do. I believe the girl; call it a gut feeling. The boy's mother's rage is now her reason for living. It's so much easier to blame someone else rather than face up to what she had a hand in -- had she not essentially abandoned the boy for a period of time, he might not have felt so desperate. That woman doesn't want the truth; she can't cope with that, & for good reason. I think the tragedy is that the boy felt his life had no value. For that, I think we owe a certain amount of thanks to his mother. So, why is Dr. Tell-It-Like-It-Is-Phil not addressing that matter? I'm sure, having lived in Texas, he's familiar with her type and is wisely keeping out of her 'reach'. Though she may be feeling some grief (or guilt), she needs a serious wake-up call here. She ruined at least 1 life that we know of, but won't be happy until she has destroyed that child's life and the lives of her parents and brother. Now that's sick.
 
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March 16, 2006, 7:00 pm PST

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you hit the nail on the head with that statement. We need to remember that Brandi was 17 years old when this happen. Young teenagers make bad decisions sometimes which could explain why she tried to cover it up, along with the fact that she was scared out of her head and probably didn't know how to handle all that she had on her at the time. If he was abusive to her like she said, I could see very well that he would step out in front of her thinking, she would never hit me...she can't hurt me...Mr tough guy. He said he would kill her and her brother...He threaten suicide....don't sound like a very stable guy to me. I would say Brandi had her hands full with this guy. Regardless Brandi has suffered enough and the families have suffered enough. There is not way to convince me that this young lady meant to run over Daniel. Look at the way Daniel's mother and sister were behaving. We can only imagine how Daniel's behavior could have been. They seem to be harsh people, not from Daniel's death, they seem to live that way in life. Good luck to Brandi and both families. GOD BLESS

I agree with you so much.  You know what makes me mad is that they said the police were called but no reports were made because there was nothing they could do.  Maybe if they would have at least made one report or gave Daniel and the family some warning this may not have happened. Honestly Brandi must have cared for Daniel at some point or another and she truly did not want to or mean for this to happen. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 7:07 pm PST

amen to that

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Dr. Phil said that the young man had threatened to "commit suicide" if she left him. He threatened to kill her and her younger brother. After fighting, she went to leave him and he stepped out in front of her car. Sounds like SUICIDE to me. She has served more time than child rapists and first-degree murderers. Let her go home. 

People who repeated kill on purpose don't get sentenced to the "rest of their life"...it doesn't seem fair, but Brandi's crime in comparison to child abusers, etc. is pale.   

 
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March 16, 2006, 7:07 pm PST

Forgive

You will never find peace within yourself if you dont have forgiveness.  What I dont understand is WHAT WAS DANIEL DOING IN FRONT OF HER CAR? If it was dark, he never should have been there.   I happen to believe her.  The fact that she put a tree thru her windshield more than likely came from fright and sheer terror.  I do not believe she intentionally tried to kill or even harm your son.  Accidents do happen unfortunately and if he ran in front of her car, that was unfortunate.  I can understand you miss your son and my heart bleeds for you, but being hateful will never bring him back.  Brandy will carry this scar for the rest of her life and that will never be easy when she has to explain it to an employer, a husband and her own child. 

  

Please, please, for the sake of all of you, forgive her. You are becoming sick, your daughter will be hate filled and it will scar her for the rest of her life.  I see the horrible bitterness you all bear and how many lives are being ruined.   Hatred will never ever bring your son back. Its all water under the bridge and I am sure Daniel is up in heaven asking you to forgive her and let this go. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 7:12 pm PST

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I watched the show tonight about Brandi and Daniel.  I have an opinion about the show because my step sister was killed by her husband of the same nature.  They could never prove what happened.  He said she jumped out of the truck and we of course all say no way.  The reason I have such a strong opinion is because I think anyone who is involved in an accident and has reason to believe or suspects they have injured someone should either call or go to the police or atleast stay with the victim until help arrives.  This would be someone who is innocent.  Someone who is guilty leaves the scene of the accident without rendering aid or makes up a story out of "shock".  I have since forgiven my step brother in law.  He served less than two years for his crime but it tore my family apart.  I became a christian shortly after my step sister was killed because I wanted to know where she went when she died.  I know about forgiveness and I know about families being torn apart.  These two families are not doing anything for their kids by bickering on tv.  Brandi might not be guilty of murder but she is guilty.  Yes she was only 17 but she was old enough to steal her parents' keys and drive over there.   If it was an accident, she should have stayed with her boyfriend until help arrived. 
 
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March 16, 2006, 7:13 pm PST

Justice vs Revenge

To the family who lost their son I give my deepest condolences.  To the family who have lost their daughter, though it may not be permanent, I offer my prayers.  Not only is their daughter serving a sentence but both families as well.  What I wish for both families is that they are not consumed with the past happenings that they forget that they are still alive and need to live rather than exist. 

  

To the family that lost their son, if the perpetrator was to die would that make your pain any less?  If your response is yes then you do not want justice, it is revenge that you seek and that can be consuming to an individual's mind, body and spirit.  Revenge is not a positive driving force.  The fact that some one is paying for the crime by having 12 years of their life taken from them is justice enough because no one except the two persons involved really know what took place that day.  A horrific accident is a good term to describe the event. Cant we take it as just that or shall we spend the rest of our lives focusing on what could have or should have happened.  Is that what your son would have wanted? 

  

Please find it in your heart to forgive her as she struggles to forgive herself.  Being mentally imprisoned is the worst punishment one can wish on another and she has been deemed both mentally and physically imprisoned.  Do something positive with your son's memory.  Pent up anger will only lead to degenerating physical illnesses.   

  

My prayers are with both families. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 7:16 pm PST

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Daniel's mother is dealing with so much grief and chaos.  Don't make judgements on what type of mother she was to him.  U don't know, she's not your mother, right? 

  

 I think if Brandi would just show this woman some remorse for being the cause of her son's death this woman wouldn't be so angry.  At the very least Brandi is guilty of reckless driving if not involuntary manslaughter.  She hit him and he died, period, accident or not.  I dont know what sentence she should have got, but it definitely needed to be more than the 120 days Brandi claims she thought she was going to get for her plea. 

Brandi did show a tremendous amount of remorse in her interview with Dr. Phil. No matter what she says to Daniel's family, they are extremely bitter.His mother is filled with hatred as shown by her responses on the show. Daniels family is looking for revenge - an eye for an eye and probably if they could run Brandi over in their car they would.  It happened, that's the way it was written.  Daniel has instances of abuse and anger, Brandi had no prior history of anything of the sort.  As Dr. Phil always says, "past behavior determines future behavior".  If Daniel had anger and abuse, why didnt his family get counselling for him? Perhaps then, this never would have happened.   That is where the guilt, if any should lie.  That boy needed help.
 
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March 16, 2006, 7:17 pm PST

that's harsh

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I SOOOOO agree with you both....look how irrational his family was acting (not the dad) trying to strong arm the situation for their pity....you are sooo right I can only imagine how as a MAN trying to show power as many young men from broken homes try to do anyway let alone with a girl that accepts the abuse...just imagine his actions toward her.  Daniels mother tries to act as if he were perfect...well really why would he talk of sucide or killing?  Just look at what raised him....total disrespect, unable to direct emotions and feelings correctly...this was an accident waiting to happen and it did.  she should be let free!!  Even if Daniel never layed a hand on her....mental abuse (from experience) is actually stronger than the physical!

I don't care if Daniel's mother was drunk everyday and beat her kids with belts, how dare u attack this woman.  She was not there that night and she wasn't driving the car.  She was extremely angry and extremely emotional on the show, yes, but don't call her feelings misguided.  Brandi was the cause of her son's death and Brandi has shown no remorse toward this woman.  I'd be filled with hatred too.  Character assisnation on her and her son are uncalled for.  U don't know for a fact that he ever talked of suicide or killing. 

  

For all u know Brandi emellished some or a lot of his treatment toward her to try to get out of this mess.  She's a teenager and she made a fatal error of judgement 

 
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March 16, 2006, 7:21 pm PST

it seems to my 9 year old son...

no person who is angry or upset should EVER get behind the wheel of a car. The young man had threatened to kill the girl, her brother and himself. Could it be that he jumped in front of the moving car, in a suicide attempt as he had threatened? What a sad and tragic story for all parties involved. 

We wonder how the son who is still alive is dealing with all of this, as it seems he is being overshadowed by the death of his brother. Forgiveness and peace to all. My heart aches for the mother who lost her son, but she needs to continue to be the best person she can be and set an example for her remaining children. Resentments and anger are self destuctive. 

 
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