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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 8:42 am PDT

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I only saw your first half hour but from what I saw the boyfriend said he would kill himself if she left him and it would be on her head. This leads me to think he may have commited suicide by jumping in front of her speeding car. Also it is now "on her head" becouse she is spending 12 years in prison for killing him.      I am sorry for the loss suffered by his family and also the emotional upset in her family.
 
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October 13, 2005, 8:42 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

 
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October 13, 2005, 8:43 am PDT

jail is not for revenge

After watching the show and having driven for 35 years, I don't think that this was an intentional act.  Her actions were stupid, but you have to consider her age and state of mind at the time.   Whether or not she is guilty, I don't feel that she really belongs in jail.  She is not a menace to society and she will carry the pain and guilt from these events for the rest of her life.  She is remorseful and her incarceration is only adding more hurt to the situation.  The boy's family will probably never be satisfied until she has paid with her life, but her family would benefit greatly from her release.  From what I heard, I don't think that she received a fair trial.  As a society, we should strive for fairness and justice and let go of the need for revenge.  Revenge only keeps the hurt going.  It does nothing to heal the situation.  Dr Phil, your mission seems to be to help the healing process.  Hopefully you can help in this situation.  Keep up the good work! 
 
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October 13, 2005, 8:46 am PDT

guilty as charged

Dr Phil hit the nail on the head when he described the "accident" the way a prosecuter would.  This "sweet little angel" STOLE A CAR and then drove to her boyfriends house where she RAN INTO HIM AT 60-65 MILES PER HOUR after breaking up with him.  Then she proceeded to FLEE THE SCENE OF THE CRIME, drive home, and LIE TO HER PARENTS ABOUT HOW THE CAR WINDOW GOT SMASHED TO SMITHERINES.  What she did was willfull and if she is so insistent on it being an accident to appease her parents, then why in the heck doesn't she take a lie detector test to prove her innocence? 

  

BY THE WAY HOW WOULD THE BRANDI SUPPORTERS FEEL IF THE SITUATION WERE REVERSED AND DANIEL HAD STOLEN HIS MOM'S CAR, DRIVEN TO BRANDIS HOME, RUN HER DOWN AND LEFT HER CORPSE LYING IN THE ROAD FOR HER FAMILY TO FIND?  WOULD YOU BE AS COMPASSIONATE TOWARD HIM?   

 
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October 13, 2005, 8:48 am PDT

Innocent

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 If she is innocent why not go to trial and prove it?  She is guilty .  Anyone that not only loses their lawyer,  but has to plea bargain does NOT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I believe she is innocent to. Police report wouldn't state all those facts that were in her favor, not Daniels. His family just didn't come across as credible at all. They seemed fake, drama, spitful, and in denial of there own sons actions. I had a friend who lived with a man similar to Daniel and it wasn't a pretty site at all, it took years of abuse, control, and her continuing to go back because of his threats of suicide. Probably stems from problems within family circle originally!
Yes, I feel bad for both, they both will have a lot of grieve to go through for years to come!

 
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October 13, 2005, 8:49 am PDT

DO YOU KNOW THEM YOURSELF?

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Brandi's family should be ashamed. They continued to blame Daniel for his own death by saying "he jumped out in front" of Brandi's car. They completely disgusted me. They had no remorse, they were heartless, and were only concerned about their spoiled daughter's jail sentence. Daniel lost his life, his parents lost their son and they were totally insensitive. Brandi's father made me ill. The way they attacked that family mortified me. They even mentioned how they were not involved in Daniel's life...That was WRONG!!!...They are evil people and there daughter is a brat...she belongs in jail for 112 years!!!!

how can you call a family you only know from TV evil? They are hearting. If the girl did do it intentionaly yes she should be in jail - but the court knows best -they say 12 years afrerall she was just a young girl. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 8:50 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

Why did Brandi need to mention that Daniel was abusive? What relevance does this have in his death? I was surprised to hear that her first words to Dr. Phil were that Daniel was abusive. Okay so he was abusive so you decided to run him over? If I had "accidentally" ran someone over my first words wouldn't be that they were abusive. I'm no physiologist but that was a red flag to me. Most of Brandi's tears were for herself. I noticed that when Dr. Phil asked her questions regarding her living in jail and how she'll be there for 12 years she was very tearful. Or when he talked about her family she was tearful. But when he asked Sheila's questions she wasn't as upset as she was when it was regarding her and the things "she" doesn't have. There was a point that I was questioning what to believe because she is very believable. It all goes back to the tree in the window, that does it for me if I were a juror. By her putting the tree in the window like she did, shows that her motives are selfish. She wasn't concerned about her dying boyfriend she was concerned about what could happen to her. And as far as the plea bargain...guilty people plea, people that aren't guilty fight for justice!!  Daniel's family and Brandi's family need to find peace over all of this. Life is so short to hold all of this pain in your hearts. Not giving forgiveness is the worst mistake that you can make. Holding vengeance in your heart will only make you physically sick and mentally unstable. I have had some turmoil in my past and forgiveness set my life free. I gave forgiveness and asked God to show me how and he did. God and Daniel wouldn't want you to feel like this. Find forgiveness...move on with your lives. Daniel wants to hear your laughter and your joys, not your hate and misfortunes. Look at it this way...there is no pain in heaven..so if you consume yourself with nothing but pain...Daniel will never know when you have joy. God bless everyone in this horrible situation. I will pray for you all. Very sad.   

 
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October 13, 2005, 8:51 am PDT

Forgiveness

After watching the show today, I had to agree wholeheartedly with Dr. Phil. Fifteen years ago my grandparents were killed while on their way to church by an emergency vehicle pursuing a criminal in a high speed chase. Not only were these vehicles not equipped for high speeds, they officer failed to turn on her lights, sirens and also failed to stop at a stop sign. She ended up broadsiding my grandparents. My grandfather died the same night and after a month of being in a coma, my grandma also passed away. 

  

Initially, there was so much anger it began to deteriorate the family. The police department tried to cover up their mistakes which only led to more anger. It eventually helped to destroy my father and he subsequently passed away from alcoholism two years ago. The rest of us chose to handle it in a different way. While I was angry, I could feel the anger taking ahold of my life and touching every other aspect of it. When I let go and was able to forgive, I opened up all of the wonderful memories I had of my grandparents and they came back to me in a way that I was not open to when holding on to the anger. I can now remember them in a loving way, and those feelings arent tinged with so much bitterness and hatred. I freed myself. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 8:58 am PDT

Empathy!!

  

I first would like to express my heartfelt sympathy to each family.  I always have agreed with Dr. Phil when he said "I will never say I know how you feel".  He can simply offer support and some suggestions that have worked for others.  In my practice I do the same.  In this case I can say I can empathize, with each member, on their feelings of anger, sorrow, loss and many others.   

  

I lost my brother in a car accident when I was 15.  He was seventeen.  This tragedy happened the day after Christmas in 1991.  Three teenagers total died in this accident, the driver lived.  I am not going to get into the legal piece of this because the point I would like to make is first of all you are not alone in your situation.  Yes, every situation is unique however the range of emotions experienced from a loss are all very similar.  My family just like the ones on the show were angry the driver lived, bad talked about his bad boy reputation however it was not until I went to Grad School and learned about Kubler Ross's five stages of grief and loss.  I highly recommend the book because the five stages she explains are anger, grief, guilt, denial and acceptance.  She explains the importance of going through each stage, no specific order, some stages maybe twice and she gives suggestions on how to work towards acceptance of the loss.  This is pretty much the quick version but it was this book and philosophy that helped my parents(especially my mom) move towards acceptance.  She was stuck in the anger and denial phase for six years and she could not get out.  My mom was resistant to therapy, or medication she just insisted on being negative.   

I have an older sister as well, who still to this day carries alot of guilt because our brother called her the night of the accident to ask her to pick him up because he was tired and ready to go.  Well it is obvious that she did not go pick him up and that was the last time she spoke to him.   

  

As we approach another anniversary of his death(#14) in December, as a family we do just what you do at other anniversary's.  We celebrate his life and all the good memories we have.  He is no longer this taboo subject, instead he is still very much apart of our family.  Believe me this took many long years to make it to where everyone of us has accepted his death.  And when I mean accepted, I mean have been able to move forward with each day with a greater appreciation of the little things.....    

  

I try in practice especially with children to ask themselves what they want their life to look like from this day forward.  I say yesterday has already happened, and for you yesterday was not a good day.  Today is a new day where we will begin to celebrate our own lives and the lives of those near and dear to us, alive or deceased.   

  

Brandi in today's show will never be the same person she was on the day before the accident.  She has to live with this nightmare for the rest of her life.  Let her do it outside of the walls of prison.  Think about all the people who get out of prison and because of what they have been through have a whole lot to offer the world.  Life experiences teach life lessons.   

  

To Daniel's family:  take a moment to reflect on his life, he needs you to keep his memory alive.  My thoughts go out to you....    

  

 
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October 13, 2005, 8:59 am PDT

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Dr. Phil stated that Daniel threatened to commit suicide if Brandi left him. She made it clear it was over and, while LEAVING HIM he stepped out in front of her car. It sounds like a suicide to me!  She has served more time than child molesters, child rapists and murderers. Let her go home.  Daniel got what he wanted... her and her brother's lives virtually over, and forever scarred, and he wanted to be dead. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's what I heard on the show. It's a sad, sad story.
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