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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm

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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

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eim101

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October 13, 2005, 12:53 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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You sound like a good person and a loyal friend - the kind of friend I would be to one of my own girlfriends. Is there any chance Brandi will be paroled? If so, after how many years?

From your prior post, it sounds like you knew that Brandi and Daniel's relationship was violent. Was that common knowledge prior to the accident? (I was just curious).

I have read some of the comments that were left for you on this message board and I hope that you are able to ignore the mean, negative remarks. If you try to respond to close-minded people it will just cause frustration for you, as those people's intentions are to be mean and cruel, which serves no purpose to people who wish to live a happy life.

Take care of yourself and take care of your friendship with Brandi.

I completely believe that this was an accident. Please tell Brandi that my prayers are with her. I was Brandi at one point, I know exactly how Daniel was... I had a Daniel of my own. The good girl who gets involved with the bad boy, (in no way am I saying anything about him deserving this what so ever, no one deserves to die!) He controled her every move with his threats. She was use to the craziness so that night was just another night in their chaotic relationship. Please, whatever you do, keep your bond with her because she will need you. She will always blame herself to a point, but it is no ones fault.

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callyk

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October 13, 2005, 12:53 pm PDT

Riiiight...

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I think that not only should Brandi take the blame for this but the parents need to be blamed as well for not keeping these young kids out of such a grownup relationship at such a young age. I have learned from expierence that realationships like this at their age always ends up in disaster. The parents need to step back and take a look at the bigger picture and try to learn from the expierence and try to be helpful in educating other parents about knowing more about what goes on in their childs lives.

*bursts out laughing* The parents! Oh, you're blaming the parents for not controlling their children! Oh, that's good.. That's just so funny and naiive.. Parents should know what's happening in their children's lives, but no parent can utterly control their child. Relationships at 17.. Most parents WORRY if their child isn't in a relationship by that age! Don't bash the parents for that. THAT isn't deserving.

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x0kimmon0x

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October 13, 2005, 12:54 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Dr. Phil stated that Daniel threatened to commit suicide if Brandi left him. She made it clear it was over and, while LEAVING HIM he stepped out in front of her car. It sounds like a suicide to me! She has served more time than child molesters, child rapists and murderers. Let her go home. Daniel got what he wanted... her and her brother's lives virtually over, and forever scarred, and he wanted to be dead. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's what I heard on the show. It's a sad, sad story.

Suicide is still considered a crime. And helping someone kill themselves is a crime as well. So why should she go free? EITHER WAY, he couldn't have died without her.

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maconb

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October 13, 2005, 12:54 pm PDT

she killed him

I understand that both families have both lost something but the girl will be home in nine years. I am apalled at her parents and the way the expect the boy's family to accept the bogus story their daughter has given. They are self-righteous when in fact they should be begging for forgiveness from Daniel's family. If Brandi can remember in him jumping in front of the car, how can she not remember hitting him or trying to cover the fact that she hit him. I just don't see the right of her family being angry that she is serving time for a crime she did. Even if it was an accident, she has to take responsibility at some point. He will never be home and listening to her story and seeing the evidence there is no way she would have been acquitted and she knew it and that's why the plea bargain was taken. I think Dr. Phil should have set Brandi's family straight and he didn't. I'm very disappointed.

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kodonnell

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October 13, 2005, 12:54 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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I must remind you that Jesus loves EVERYONE. Even those that have sinned, intentionally or unintentionally. Should she choose to ask Jesus to be her Lord and savior and repent, she will be in heaven, too. She may have already done this, I don't know, only God does.

I don't know what you are going through. I am so saddened by this. To see the pain of your family and hers. To see how Satan is working in your lives. To see that y'all are letting the real enemy win. I have heard Dr. Phil say this before, that someone from either family needs to step up and be a hero. It doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong. Forgive and love one another. Let God have the victory, not Satan.

I will leave you with this, because you mentioned heaven, so I assume you are a Christian. Jesus commanded us in Matthew 18 to forgive our tresspassers. (The parrable where Peter asked how many times should we forgive). Jesus replied with a parrable about the king and his servant. The last two verses of the chapter are: "And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not EVERY ONE his brother thier trespasses." That was Jesus talking.

Also, don't forgive the Lords prayer: Our father, which art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done; in earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our tresspasses, AS WE FORGIVE OUR TRESSPASSORS. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the Kingdom and the power and the Glory, forever and ever. Amen!

May God heal your broken hearts.

AMen girl!! LOVED YOUR POST!! :) Thanks for your encouraging words and the truth!! :)

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October 13, 2005, 12:56 pm PDT

I understand what Brandi was going through

Let me start off by saying that I feel for both theses families. No parents should have to go through losing a child and they both have. And it saddens me to hear what Daniels family is going through, but I understand what Brandi was going through. When I was 17, I was dating a boy the same age i was and when Brandi was explaining their relationship, all I though of was mine. My boyfriend was abusive (even in front of my family), controlling, and sometimes scary to be around when we we were alone. I realized he was like this even 2 months into our relationship, and for 8 more months i threatened to break up wiht him. But he would tell me that if i did he would kill me or himself. I know how Brandi felt. I 100% believe that she did not mean to kill him. I believe (from what i heard on the show and from my own experiance) that he jumped in front of that car to get her attenetion. My ex did the same thing, he put his foot behind my car wheel when i was backing up, I ran over it, and he got the attention that he wanted. I feel for Brandi and I wish for her sake and her families that she does not stay in that prison for too much longer. As for Daniels family, they know how it feels to lose a child, why would they want to put another family through the same thing?

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nanook582

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October 13, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

My son was killed..

My son was also killed in an automobile accident, by his girlfriend. I can honestly say I know how both sides feel. I choose to forgive the driver and not live with the bitterness that could devour my life. What I can not get past is how to live an everyday life now. The pain and empty heart has taken my life over. Does anyone have any suggestions.. I can not sleep a full night, I have lost my career, and isolated myself from people so I don't have to talk about it in public. It was an accident that took national attention. I feel so empty inside, my heart just can not feel...some call it " The broken heart syndrome"

Nanook582@yahoo.com

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azura1231

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October 13, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

God Bless Both Familys

Wow!! Dr .Phil This show kept me on my toes. Gos Bless both familys but you need to step back and look at the bigger pitcher. Both familys are going to really need you!!

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derbygirl

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October 13, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

I am a first time mom and this show really hit me hard. I would go nuts if I lost my child and I feel for both families. Whether or not she did it on purpose is not for us to decide. She has gone thru the trial and she is in jail and Daniel is gone. No amount of words can bring him back. She will have to wake up every day and look at herself in the mirror and face what happened. To me that is punishment right there cause she knows the truth and she will have to live with it for the rest of her life.

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werforpsu

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October 13, 2005, 12:58 pm PDT

what it feels like

now i am not going to take sides on this because i have not read the police reports or anything, but i am going to comment on being a driver, who has hit a person by accident.

my side of the story:

I was driving to camus during college and hit a boy who was walking in the middle of the road. it was dusk, i didn't see him. i was not going fast, and it was ruled by the police as a "No Fault" situation. basically i had done nothing wrong. he was alright at first, released from the hospital in a matter of hours, however then "problems" seemed to arise. a person has 24 months after an inccident to file civil claim. he waited 23 months and then filed. he suied myself and my parents. over a year later, my insurance company chose to settle with him for $40,000, it was cheaper than going to trial.

while my situation is very different, i will say that there is a huge amount of hysteria after being in a car accident of that magnitude. whether Brandi spends the rest of her life in jail or not, is not going to change the horror that is in her head. the person i hit is okay, and $40,000 richer, but i STILL haven't gotten over it.

so to all of you from the aspect of a driver who has hit someone, please pray for peace for both families, becasue this will never end for either group of people. hopefully the families will learn to express thier grief in ways that will make a difference for people in the future.

Bless you all

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