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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 13, 2005, 3:40 pm PDT

are you as sick as brandi?

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Daniels family done a pretty good job attacking brandis family didnt they.... and a mother not being in a childs life for 5 years will definatly affect their lives... do u have kids??  Spend birthdays with her threw bars.. that dont sound like a lot of fun........  12 years for doing something by accident......   what about the fear she lived threw from the abuse????? it amazes me, the girl was 17 years old a child  still, she was scared to death...... i think we need to look at the whole situation...
Clearly this was no accident!  not only does the evidence prove that; but brandi took a plea to voluntary manslaughter not only that she left the scene of the crime.  Brandi should be in jail for at least 20 to life and that is being nice,  So take your head out of your butt lady and stop blamming the victim for the convicted killers crime.
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:41 pm PDT

Right where she belongs

Her angelic cheerleader face is right where it belongs.   

Dr. Phil's "cross examination" of Brandi in jail makes her guilt obvious.    She should serve out her entire sentence. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 3:41 pm PDT

No One Knows....

Watching the show about Daniel and Brandi was definitely a heart-wrenching story, but for people to post on here and say he DEFINITELY jumped in front of her, or she DEFINITELY did it on purpose...no one can possibly know for sure what happened. And it is quite possible that both of the families have said things that are either completely untrue, or an exaggeration, for the mere purpose, of what they think is for the good of their children, or their family. Different things don't match up in both sides of the story, and so it is obvious that no one will probably ever know for sure what happened. I definitely feel for Daniel's family, although I don't know what it feels like to go through something like that, but at the same time, if Brandi is telling the truth, this is also extremely hard on her family. Some of the things that Brandi said didn't make sense to me, and she did change her story a few times, however if Daniel was truly suicidal on several different occasions, then maybe he did jump out in front of her. Who knows...all we can hope for after watching that show is that maybe someday the families can both forgive, and obviously not forget, but at least try to move on. Maybe someday, they can reach that point, and together move on from this tragic incident.
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:41 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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 Although the picture of the car was brief we have a HDTV DVR cable box that allows us to pause and rewind live TV and get a really clear image.  I paused it and after looking at the car it seemed that there was not much damage to the car from the hood down.  All the damage seemed to be to the middle of the windshield.  Did anyone else notice this?   If she "ran him down" wouldn't there be damage to the lower half of the car as well?  
I would have to agree with you that in most cases damage would be evident to the front of the car.  There may be some evidence that is not visible in the photos such as fabric impressions from the clothing or blood.  It is really hard to tell from the photos but the clearly damaged areas do not seem to show the "classic" signs of intent from a motor vehicle accident. 
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:41 pm PDT

Let's follow up with this

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Dr. Phil said that the young man had threatened to "commit suicide" if she left him. He threatened to kill her and her younger brother. After fighting, she went to leave him and he stepped out in front of her car. Sounds like SUICIDE to me. She has served more time than child rapists and first-degree murderers. Let her go home. 

Setting aside judgement of innocense or guilt in this case, for the sake of investigating further, let's take a look at the wide descrepancy in sentence time given to women who have been convicted in a domestic violence situation, compared to men who have been convicted r in a comparable domestic violence situation.  It is my perception that women receive significantly longer sentences!  Just as African/Americans receive much harsher punishment for and higher conviction rate.    And I agree that convicted sex offenders, child molesters etc. also frequently get off with comparably much less time, than this girl has received.  Let's talk about bringing more EQUITY into our Justice system.   
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:42 pm PDT

Healing

I am 16 years old and i know what both families are going through.  My best friend was in a car accident last year and she passed away and my other friend that was also in the car lost her leg.  What i want to say is that everyone should just stop judging Brandi and her family and also Daniel's family.  They need to get some kind of forgiveness otherwise they won't be able to live their lives.  Brandi's family loves her and i think they really want to get her out of jail, but i think they need to focus on healing first.  Daniel's family also need to find forgiveness, because you can say anything but that's not going to bring him back.  What happened is done, we can't go back and change it, you need to move forward with your lives and the only way you can do that is by forgiving.  It may have been an accident or it may have been on purpose but either way there has to be some kind of healing. 
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:42 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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I feel that this girl did not do this crime i just have this feeling in my gut. I didn't see anything fake about her cry in the interview she is probably going through tons of pain. I personally think she make logic sense about serving some time just to feel better about it even thou she didn't do it. Now i do fell sort of sketchy on her story cuss she had no one there no see what happen on her side Bu the boyfriends family was all there just didn't actually see it.
THANKYOU!!!! i totally agree.   there are soo many things she could have said to his mother too.. i mean her life has been destroyed and his moms hoping with all her might that it happens that way.... and brandi still has it in her to say like, i know what shes feeling right now, and im sorry.... does no one have any idea how awful her life is right now and how much hatred and anger she could have expressed in her comments, but she diiiidnt!
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:42 pm PDT

How did Daniel conduct himself (disappline wise)?

We heard that Brandi had never so much as even been in trouble at school, but yet we never heard anything about the way Daniel conducted himself.  I think that you could tell alot about both families from the way they presented themselves today on the show.  As the old saying goes  "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree".  I think it is an injustice to American youth that an accident can land you in more trouble than real premeditated crimes.  As we all have heard Dr. Phil say as a teen your brain is not fully developed and they don't have the ability to fully handle some situations. 
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:43 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

Quote From: agirliegrl

I agree that the statements made by Daniel's mother and sister  were not appropriate.  They sound defensive statements rather than explanations.  It was shocking to see the rage the two women displayed towards Brandi and her family.  Knowing that anger and guilt are VERY close emotions it makes one rather vote in favor of Brandi and her side of the story.  Presentation is everything!  

   

I think that the out and out dismissal of abuse charges due to lack of visible evidence is absurd.  It is a reaction of defense that one takes when abuse is certain but not evident.  How can Daniel's mother state with assurance, her son's actions and behaviors when he did not live with her.  When she did not interact with him on a daily basis.  When she was not being a mother to him.  This is where her guilt lies and why she is so defensive.  

   

I feel for the loss of both families and believe in Brandi and her family.  It is a shame that the facts cannot be fully disclosed due to time.  We were only shown the 'highlights'.  Items to peak and keep our interest.  Of those, I decide accident.  

well said to your statement.  I agree with you. 
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:43 pm PDT

go on

Was it murder or a horrific accident? Today the answer is not as important as that the two families need to heal. First must come forgiveness, not of the events that happend that night but so that the anger, hatred and guilt can be put to rest. The person being forgiven doesn't need to know they are being forgiven, they may not want it, deserve it or believe they need it and it does not mean you agree with what was done. But the person that gives it can have peace of mind and move on. The stress of carrying it with you every day can kill you. Is this what you want for the rest of your family?? You will never "get over it" but you can learn to live with it. My heart goes out to the ones left behind..both families and their friends.
 
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