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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 14, 2005, 7:41 am PDT

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I personally feel that each family is suffering. They are both suffering with loss.  One is suffering with death and the other with their child being gone for so long.  Each child as lost their life if you ask me.  I cant say if i think shes guilty or not.  Only her and Daniel can know that.  I feel that each family acted wrong in the way the treated each other on the show.  They both need to forgive not forget but forgive.  The parents in each family need to realize that they have a family to take care of as well.  I worry for the kids that are still around and the help they need from their parents that they arent getting.  The moms in both families need to step and take into consideration that they have other children that are in grief over the situation and help them cope with the problems they develop out of this. 

  

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October 14, 2005, 7:46 am PDT

I am so disappointed in Dr. Phil

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I agree that the show had to allow these people to interact without too much interuption. However, Dr Phil is usually so much better at calling people on their horrible behavior. I think Dr Phil should have called Brandi's parents on their behavior & inappropriateness.  That's why I love the show! Dr Phil calls people on their unbelievable behavior. I was just disapointed that he didn't call Brandi's parents on the glaring fact they are making excuses for their daughter & blaming the victim's parents. These people reduced Daniel's mother into running off the stage. I'm suprised she lasted that long, because I don't think I could have let Brandi's mother point her finger at me & call my parenting skills on the carpet & sit there calmly as long as she did.  I respect Daniel's mother for showing grace & control in the face of that shameful umbrage.

I have watched Dr. Phil's show from the beginning and I have to say that I as well was extremely disappointed that he allowed Brandi's parents to attack Daniel's family the way that they did. The bottom line is that whether their daughter is in jail for 4 years or 12 years SHE IS ALIVE. They will be able to be together again when she is done serving her time. They will be allowed to hug her and talk with her and experience life with her. It may not be the same life that it was before the incident but nonetheless it is a LIFE. Daniel's family will never have the chance again to hug their son or watch him grow into a man. Just because they can't hug her or talk with her on a daily basis is unfair to say that they don't have her at all. I believe that we may have seen the true colors of what Brandi's family life is actually like.  

  

No one wants to admit that their child has done wrong and it doesn't matter if she is a straight A student and cheerleader. Anyone who has lived through their teen years knows that we all do things that our parents don't know about. I think there is definitely more to this story and it has nothing to do with either of the parenting skills of each family. Teenagers make some incredibly dumb decisions but I feel that Brandi is where she needs to be. Accident or not she needs to show remorse for taking the life of another person and not just for being in prison. Until that can be done then I feel that she should serve her time. 

  

My heart goes out to Daniel's family as I hope they are able to come to peace with losing their son and live their life they way they feel he would want them to carry on. 

 
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October 14, 2005, 7:48 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Um...did you watch the show. The judicial finger says she is guilty. oh and she said she was guilty.. 

pay attentioin next time 

 

I didn’t think Brandi went to trial, so how could the judicial system say she was guilty.  She did plead guilty to one count, but it was scratched out and changed to another one. That’s what I saw when I watched the show.  We do tend to retain only what we want to remember though.  

 
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October 14, 2005, 7:51 am PDT

"Think Outside the Box"

I have never written in on a message board “anywhere or participated in any chat rooms”, but because yesterday’s (10/13) story was so compelling, and the public remains so naïve and vacant, I had to give my input.  Dr. Phil does an exceptional job in trying to make us think outside the box, engage in investigative inquiry/dialogue and not accept things at face value.  However, many of us just don’t get it.  I believe if Daniel’s family had contacted the show instead of Brandi’s, the tone of responses would have faired differently.  Daniel’s family obviously could not articulate their feelings and pain as eloquently as Brandi’s family, but because Daniel was an “alleged bad boy” did not mean his family loved him any less or he wasn’t worthy of living.  What about his “twin” brother - who was obviously missing yesterday?  Can you imagine what he must be feeling? 

  

 

  

 

Just as Brandi’s story crumbled under Dr. Phil’s questioning (which I though was fair and impartial by the way), I think she would have had a hard time convincing a jury, which is why she (and her family) settled for a plea bargain. 

  

 

  

 

To keep saying that Brandi wouldn’t kill some one intentionally is bogus.  None of us are “free” from the throes of stupidity and irrationality in an intense “wrong” moment.   If Brandi had been the great person/student as the family described, why would she steer in the direction of someone with Daniel’s alleged “bad” character?  Why would she stay? Why would the parents allow it?  Perhaps, something in Brandi’s sinister and clandestine character drew her to him.  If she was so “afraid” of him, why did she steal her father’s keys in the middle of the night and drive to his house (alone) to confront him (oh, and didn’t she go back because she forgot something??).   

  

 

Brandi had a loving family.  She did not come from a broken home.  As a daddy’s girl and an ideal student, why couldn’t her parents have been persistent in seeking police protection?  Brandi took the law into her own hands, and now she must suffer the consequences.  Even if she is forced to serve her 12 year sentence, she will be in her thirties when released, and can move forward.  On the other hand, in 12 years from now, Daniel can only hope to still be a memory in his family discussions, and pray that his family keep moving the weeds growing in the 6 feet of dirt hovering over his decomposed remains.

  

 

  

 

No one wants their child dead, and no one wants their child in jail, but if we forgave all accidents that ended up in death, some people would have countless, sorrowful “accidental deaths.” 

  

 

I know that Dr. Phil is too loving and professional to say what I am about to say.  Brandi’s actions following Daniel’s death represented clarity and self-preservation - not confusion.  Obviously, the defense attorneys found little credibility in her story, as well.  The bogus statement she made regarding her “paid” attorney being assigned to another case by the judge made less sense.  Then, when Brandi stated that the new attorney changed the documents at the last minute and she signed them, knowing that what she was signing was false and had changed made her sound more foolish.  How could she be so smart and so dumb at the same time?  I think she should stay in jail until she accepts the truth, or she won’t learn anything from this sad situation.    

  

 

  

 

Yes, for their sake, I think Daniel’s family should pray for forgiving hearts so they can begin the healing process.  Brandi's parents are guilt ridden because they are wondering where they went wrong (which is understandable).  It's time for them to accept the fact that Brandi was wrong.  As a family, they should pray for forgiveness of themselves (individually and collectively) for feeling like they have failed their daughter (sister).   Brandi’s family should be focusing on helping their daughter realize that she could have made a better decision, and preparing her to reintegrate into a society that is getting progressively worse and making the right decision is even more important tomorrow than it is today and was yesterday.  They should also seek counseling to build their strength so they can be Brandi’s support system and not an external liability.  Then maybe they can help Brandi learn how to forgive herself and focus on God’s direction in her life.  They can make Brandi know that they are a stronger family for what they have been through and together, and as a family, they will seek God’s direction on this learning path.  Brandi has another opportunity to make responsible contributions to our society.  Daniel, whatever his faults had no opportunity for remption and forgiveness.   His life was whisked away in a painful flash, and I pray for forgveness of his soul.  Brandi's parents should also work to seek forgiveness from Daniel’s family because no matter who Daniel was, Brandi entered into his world of her freewill. 

 

As parents, we must be proactive participants in our children's lives and whether they like it or not, we do have a say so in who their friends are.  Communicate with your children daily and from childhood to adulthood, they must know that as long as you are their primary source of financial support (caretaker), you must have some input in the decisons they make.  Always reassure them, that your input is ONLY "in the name of love", and GOD holds you "us" responsible for their well-being. 

  

 
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October 14, 2005, 7:59 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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The judical system says she can come home ... after 12 years 

  

What don't you understand about guilty ,,, and sentencing? 

  

She was arrested, and about to be prosecuted .. 

  

they thought she was guilty, and they do that for a living. 

  

  

  

           MY POINT IS THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM HAS BEEN WRONG AND IS WRONG IN THIS CASE EPECIALLY HOW THEY HANDLED IT!!!   What Your saying is the judicial system is right in what they did and is right in what they have done for everyone? There are no quirks in the system?  HERE IS the KEY word here They THOUGHT she was guilty. Your telling she must have been then? 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:00 am PDT

In agreement

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Dr. Phil stated that Daniel threatened to commit suicide if Brandi left him. She made it clear it was over and, while LEAVING HIM he stepped out in front of her car. It sounds like a suicide to me!  She has served more time than child molesters, child rapists and murderers. Let her go home.  Daniel got what he wanted... her and her brother's lives virtually over, and forever scarred, and he wanted to be dead. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's what I heard on the show. It's a sad, sad story.

My little sister is dating a young man who is verbally and emotionally abusive.  He comes from a broken home where he is the cream of the crop, meaning he has gone farther in life then anyone else in his family.  My sister is from a very stable home with solid values where both parents have college educations and both of her older sisters have gone on to college.  She was an excellent student and very active in school, but her grades fell just after she started dating him.  He is now at college and the seperation seems to be very good for her.  We are a tight nit family and she has told me that he has made threats of violence against himself if she ever left him.  I could see him selfishly throwing himself in front of her car if she broke up with him.  I taped this show and I am going to sit with her and watch it.  I hope she can see the simalarities in our situations.  This girl obviously feels great guilt for what has happened.  I believe our system should be about rehabilitation not revenge.  I think her guilt alone will be punishment enough, especially since she loved this young man.  I know that my sister's reasons for staying with her boyfriend is that she loves him and he is trying to be better then where he came from.  Trying and achieving are two seperate things.  It is almost as if she wants to save him.  I hate to sound harsh, but I connected very strongly with brandi because I saw my sister in her.  I feel great sorrow for his family, but punishing this girl is not the answer and will not bring Daniel back.  And by the way, it took my sister's boyfriend three attempted suicides and many other signs before his family even saught minimal treatment.  According to them he is all better now. 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:01 am PDT

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My daughter was in an abusive relationship in high school.  She went to the principal, who shrugged and said “boys will be boys” We finally had to go to court to get this boy to leave her alone, minus the evidence the principle had thrown away, including handwritten threats left in her locker. The principal’s excuse, she still talked to him in the hallway. My daughter said she was afraid not to talk to him, because he got very angry when she ignored him, and she was afraid of what he might do.  Fear can make anyone do seemingly unreasonable things, like stealing a car to visit an abusive boyfriend at night, 

 

  

 

  I believe when Daniel stepped in front of her car trying to stop her, Brandi panicked and hit the gas pedal, the shock left her mind blank and she drove home on automatic pilot.  It was not clear thinking that made her try to cover up by putting a tree limb through the windshield.  It was a testimony to her agitated state of mind. She was in denial, a perfectly reasonable emotional reaction to a horrible event. 

 

  

 

I do not know what happened that night and neither does anyone else except Brandi and she may not be too sure herself.  My sympathy for Daniel’s family will not make me convict Brandi and want to punish her for 112 years, and no one can hate her enough to bring Daniel back.  When I saw her on the show, she convinced me that she was very sorry for all the pain she had caused to everyone.  I did not get the impression that she was a selfish brat or guilty by reason of gender as some have suggested. 

 

  

 

Can someone help me?  I’ve been trying to watch the show again, but can’t manage it.  I was sure Daniel’s sister said she was trying to call 911 because Daniel and Brandi were yelling at each other, but heard the crash before she finished dialing. If I heard this correctly, then how could Brandi have been driving 60 miles an hour?   I don’t know of any car that can go from 0 to 60 in .5 seconds.   

 

  

 

 

  

 

 

  

 

 

  

 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:06 am PDT

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This message goes out to the mother who lost her son.  I hope you've heard this story.  If not, I hope you hear it, print it, frame it, and hang it somewhere you can see it every day. 

                  Every afternoon( up in Heaven) all the children would gather with such excitment to light they're candles and walk with the Lord through the gardens of Heaven, but there was one little boy who"s candle would not stay lit.  One day the Lord asked him why he never joined in with the other children.  The little boy replied,  "I can't go because my candle won't stay lit."  The Lord said,"why?" 

The little boy replied,"Every time I go to light it, my Mommy"s tears put it out."     

I hope that one day you can learn to celebrate your son's life.  The happier you are, the brighter his candle will shine. 

  

I hope the mother and others see and think about this its great, up lifting and gives hope!! Thanks for caring. The love of God is the greatest gift of all if we will apply it to our hearts. 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:06 am PDT

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This message goes out to the mother who lost her son.  I hope you've heard this story.  If not, I hope you hear it, print it, frame it, and hang it somewhere you can see it every day. 

                  Every afternoon( up in Heaven) all the children would gather with such excitment to light they're candles and walk with the Lord through the gardens of Heaven, but there was one little boy who"s candle would not stay lit.  One day the Lord asked him why he never joined in with the other children.  The little boy replied,  "I can't go because my candle won't stay lit."  The Lord said,"why?" 

The little boy replied,"Every time I go to light it, my Mommy"s tears put it out."     

I hope that one day you can learn to celebrate your son's life.  The happier you are, the brighter his candle will shine. 

  

I hope the mother and others see and think about this its great, up lifting and gives hope!! Thanks for caring. The love of God is the greatest gift of all if we will apply it to our hearts. 

 
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October 14, 2005, 8:09 am PDT

*bnods*

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 Why should Daniel be respected just because he is dead?  Someone has to earn my respect, not just die.  And as far as Daniel's family living in a trailer park, as you put it, having some influence on my comments, I also live in a mobile home park (not trailer park) , so that judgment on your part is totally erroneous.  And I am just stating the facts objectively that were obvious as to the behavior of Daniel's whole family.  Emotionally, the whole story is very sad.
I agree completely. This boy threatened and abused Brandi. Just because he is dead doesn't mean that he was all of a sudden a wonderful person in life. It's still sad, of course, that he is dead, however.
 
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