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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 14, 2005, 8:38 am PDT

why didnt the car crash?

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Brandi's parents would NOT have wanted me on their daughter's jury. I do believe she ran her boyfriend down on purpose and will say anything to get out of being held responsible for it. Her parents are in extreme denial and I also believe will say anything to get their daughter out of jail. I heard conflicting stories right on the Dr. Phil show. When Dr. Phil asked Brandi why her boyfriend would jump in front of a moving car, she replied because she just thought he didn't want her to leave. However, it was clear from the taped piece that Brandi *had* left, and was driving *back* to give him a skate that got left behind in the car. So why would he jump out in front of her car if he saw that she was coming *back*? That just doesn't make any sense at all. And the fact that he was thrown 58 feet! Like Dr. Phil says, you don't get thrown 58 feet from being hit at 25-30 mph. She was coming back fast and aiming for the kid. The parents of this boy have every right to be grieving and angry --especially when Brandi's parents are trying to employ the worst "blame the victim" strategy that there is. When the boy's mother said at one point, "But she killed my son," Brandi's father said, "Because he jumped in front of her car." Unbelievable. Clearly they all need huge amounts of therapy, the boy's family to deal with the grief and angrer, but Brandi's family to deal with their extreme denial. At one point Dr. Phil tried to point out to Brandi that if she would admit to her parents the truth, that it would in some ways, make it easier for them to deal with her incarceration and punishment. She didn't get that at all, and I wonder if this girl will ever admit the truth to herself.
This is what makes me think he stood there challenging her to run into him. How was she to know he wouldnt get out of the way? A car going at 65 mph that hits something is going to go out of control. If she had meant to hit she would have stopped. As strange as this might sound. 
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:39 am PDT

Brandi is guilty

Brandi's family is causing their own grief by denying the actions of their daughter.If they dealt with Brandi's guilt and accepted that the jail term is her consequence and dept to society, everyone could move forward.
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:41 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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           MY POINT IS THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM HAS BEEN WRONG AND IS WRONG IN THIS CASE EPECIALLY HOW THEY HANDLED IT!!!   What Your saying is the judicial system is right in what they did and is right in what they have done for everyone? There are no quirks in the system?  HERE IS the KEY word here They THOUGHT she was guilty. Your telling she must have been then? 

The Judicial System did not judge her: she never went to trial. It was her  own guilt that convicted her. I think Brandi is much more mature and has a better conscience than Daniel's mother. It appears to me that Daniel's mother feel guilty, as a normal part of dealing with death, but is vengeful toward Brandi. She's blaming Brandi, who did indeed cause his death. But Id like to know where his mother was for those 5 1/2 years mentioned. Obviously he did indeed come from an unstable home. Was it suicide...? Did he indend to kill himslef, or was HE thinking like a teenager, (who seem to think they are  invinsible at that age)?? I suggest that perhaps he did jump infront of the car, as ANOTHER MEANS OF CONTROLLING HER. He assumed she'd stop; she didn't. Now she has to live the rest of her life with that guilt, which is what put her in jail. She will have a long journey to be able to forgive herself and go on with life. She's paying the price, because of her morals. Nobody could make her pay more than that.
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:42 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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FORGIVE BUT CERTAINLY NOT FORGET  E V E R!!!!!
     To expect everyone to simply forget the incident is highly illogical and most unfair to all concerned. You don't forget the loss of a loved one. But to insist on living in the past means forfeiting the present and negating the future. Both families need grief counseling.
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:46 am PDT

Time to heal

What happened that night was obviously a tragedy for both families.  I understand that we are to trust the judicial system and its decisions, but are they always right.  I tend to think not.  It is unfortunate for his family in that he is no longer here, but I get the feeling his mother and family are just looking to point blame and accuse and want someone to point their finger at for all their pain.  That is not going to solve anything.  She is serving her time of 12 years and at her age, that is a huge sacrifice, not only for her but her family as well.  I do think it odd the situation, but not all things are black and white.  It will take a lot of time for both families to heal, but his family is going to continue to hurt because all they are worried about is revenge instead of healing.  My best friend's sister was killed by a drunk driver, who already had 5 OWIs and he was working for a dealership driving one of their cars.  He was out in 7 years and hit someone else.  Where is the justice in that?
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:49 am PDT

10/13 CHEERLEADER SCANDAL

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Im so glad someone sees how our family feels! We will never get to attend his wedding, be there for the birth of his children, or celebrate any holidays with him. All these things brandi's family will get to experience. And in my opinion whether this is harsh or not, they do not deserve to experince anything with there daughter. Brandi should never get the opportunity to have anything in life. But we all need to remember, Daniel WILL get the last laugh, when brandi is burning in hell and he is peaceful in heaven
 I don't know whether this was intentional or an accident. What I do know is that Brandy is not going to burn in hell because of her actions because our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ gave his life so that our sins would be FORGIVEN. What I also know is that those who have not accepted Christ into their lives (which your family obviously has not) are the ones who will be burning in hell. It was very clear that your family had issues to deal with even prior to this incident. Perhaps if you had been raised in a more loving, stable, christian evironment with values such as forgiveness taught in your home, your brother would not have been involved in a relationship that escalated to the point that it did. I pray that your family will find a more positive way to deal with your grief because the hate and poison that fills your hearts is not hurting anybody but yourselves. It will not change what has happened and it will ont have any effect on the amount of time Brandy spends in prison. Why not make an effort to not let your brother's life have been in vain? Why not go out into your community and speak with teenagers about the consequences of letting relationships spiral out of control? If Daniel was the kind, caring person that you made him out to be, would he really want to see his family filled with so much hatred and venom?
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:56 am PDT

OMG

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Dr. Phil stated that Daniel threatened to commit suicide if Brandi left him. She made it clear it was over and, while LEAVING HIM he stepped out in front of her car. It sounds like a suicide to me!  She has served more time than child molesters, child rapists and murderers. Let her go home.  Daniel got what he wanted... her and her brother's lives virtually over, and forever scarred, and he wanted to be dead. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's what I heard on the show. It's a sad, sad story.
you have to be joking right?  if he did jump infront of the car on purpose that still doesnt explain why she was driving at such a high rate of speed through a "trailer park".  you dont just decide to drive a car 50-60 m.p.h. claiming you were going 30 m.p.h. and yet through a human body 48 feet!
 
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October 14, 2005, 8:58 am PDT

What about the family members

I wish you had addressed the family of the cheerleader on how they are letting their son down.  She is in jail, they may not agree with the sentence, but they should teach him to respect the law and authority before they are visiting him in jail too.  The father and mother of the girl are insisting that if the DEAD boys family are out only for revenge....since when is 3 years enought for even an accidental running down and killing of a young man.  It seems as though the cheerleaders parents got to vent about how this has ruined their life and hers, and you never said you have to seperate yourself from some of this guilt and let her accept some of the guilt, quit the pitty party and help your son and yourself because she will be with you in 9 years...can that DEAD boys family say that???? Dr Phil I think you could have done more to help the girls family have more empathy for the young man's family.  Who is taking responsibility..the father of the cheerleader....what happen to children taking responsiblity for their own actions...she was almost 18, we have men at war that age. 
 
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October 14, 2005, 9:01 am PDT

insensitive

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I have watched Dr. Phil's show from the beginning and I have to say that I as well was extremely disappointed that he allowed Brandi's parents to attack Daniel's family the way that they did. The bottom line is that whether their daughter is in jail for 4 years or 12 years SHE IS ALIVE. They will be able to be together again when she is done serving her time. They will be allowed to hug her and talk with her and experience life with her. It may not be the same life that it was before the incident but nonetheless it is a LIFE. Daniel's family will never have the chance again to hug their son or watch him grow into a man. Just because they can't hug her or talk with her on a daily basis is unfair to say that they don't have her at all. I believe that we may have seen the true colors of what Brandi's family life is actually like.  

  

No one wants to admit that their child has done wrong and it doesn't matter if she is a straight A student and cheerleader. Anyone who has lived through their teen years knows that we all do things that our parents don't know about. I think there is definitely more to this story and it has nothing to do with either of the parenting skills of each family. Teenagers make some incredibly dumb decisions but I feel that Brandi is where she needs to be. Accident or not she needs to show remorse for taking the life of another person and not just for being in prison. Until that can be done then I feel that she should serve her time. 

  

My heart goes out to Daniel's family as I hope they are able to come to peace with losing their son and live their life they way they feel he would want them to carry on. 

I agree 100% with your comments. Brandi's family was  trying to compare the "loss" of their daughter to Daniel's family's loss. She ran a boy down, left him to die, then fabricated a lie to cover her tracks. Her tears are disingenuios.  Dr. Phil showed incredible insensitivity for these sad greiving people. Why was Brandi's family front and center and Daniel's was in the audience? Guess we know who Dr. Phil considered the victims of this story. If the show had begun with Daniel's family in the guest chairs, it would have taken on a whole new spin.
 
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October 14, 2005, 9:03 am PDT

Thank You Dr. Phil

Thank you Dr. Phil for allowing both parties to speak out releasing frustration and anger not only at the system but with themselves.  As parents we want to protect and stand up for our children even when mistakes occur.  One of the hardest things to recognize in one's own children is their weaknesses ... after all they are human, the same as their adult role models. 

  

This is truly a very sad situation but one that the parents need to come to terms with for the sake of their other children at home. 

  

Suicide is a difficult concept to wrap ones mind around, especially for those that are left behind.  My belief is that this young man demonstrated and provided indicators not only to Brandi and his own parents, and probably to the school community in retrospect, and probably to the police force given the statements of Brandi's parents, of an instability.  To Daniel's Mother who is fighting so hard to cruicify Brandi, if your son did commit suicide ... you are not to blame.  This does not make you any less a caring mother or a responsible mother.  His action does not put the quality of your motherhood in jeopardy.  As a mother you can not control the reasoning of your young adult's mind - you could never be inside his mind. He may have made a decision in a split second that cost him his life.  He may have only wanted to slightly hurt himself thus controlling Brandi into not leaving him, and instead caring for him.  He was probably devasted by the breakup and was trying to keep the relationship together at any cost.  We will never know.  But he did step out in front of the car for whatever reason.   

  

As for Brandi, she made some very poor choices and was very immature in her reaction to the situation.  Do I believe she drove home in a fog?  Yes, I think shock took its toll and panic set in, instead of rational thinking.  She has paid her dues and will pay her dues everyday for the rest of her life as she wakes up each morning and goes to sleep each night.    I sincerely hope that she is receiving councelling and education to help her make a positive influence on others in some way in her life.  I believe she did that yesterday with courage to help other young people and also help parents to understand the importance of keeping the communication lines open at all times.  Brandi needs to know that as long as she knows in her heart that she is telling the truth then she can hold her head high and move on in her life.   Truth to oneself is the greatest healier of all.  I hope that Brandi's parents and brother can now help Brandi by moving forward with their lives and not letting the incident incapacitate their lives.  If they do this, perhaps they will allow Brandi to heal as well and move forward in a positive and responsible direction with her life. 

  

My thoughts and prayers go out to both famlies, sincerely, ohsunset 

 
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