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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 14, 2005, 11:01 pm PDT

The effect it could have on you!

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hi, i completely understand what you are saying and the facts that you wrote make complete sense..besides the fact that nobody knows exactly what happened.I feel greatly for daniels family because you are absolutely right they lost their son and a brother..that must be horrible but on the other hand I do NOT belive that the parents should be arguing and calling eachothers name. If they can't talk about t,,which they obviously can't do, why not go seperate ways or realize that you are never going to agree. I can't sit here and say Brandi is innocent or guilty because I only saw what was on DR.Phil, and even though Daniel is gone I do not belive that Brandi should spend those years in prison..some yes..12 NO. She may have her birthday every year and she may have her life but she has a record with her saying she killed someone she will be on probation, and the poice will be suspicious of her every move...this is definatly not worth alife..but what makes it right to sit here and accuse her of something we don't really know anything about...maybe she should be out of prison and see what "real" life is like. You have to deal with problems all the time, and relationships, she made a mistake and it was a big one but let her learn and deal on her own.
Why does no one seem to be concerned about the last minute plea bargain change???? This girl was 17! last time i checked that's a minor. If a 17 yr old's mind isn't developed enough to make a well thought out decision to vote then why is her mind developed enough to make a plea agreement? Being at the wrong place at the wrong time happens more often than you think. Your sons, daughters, husbands, wives etc. can easily be in this situation too. I certainly would prefer to err on the side of grace than vindictiveness and uncaring. The maximum sentence for crimes are just that! They are not meant to be the end all and be all of sentencing. Those who decided her fate completely disregarded the neccesity of grace in sentencing. "ye who are without sin cast the first stone" Without understanding, empathy, and grace (giving on top of mercy) we are no better than the fools beheading innocent civilians. Think about how you would want others to judge you based on your acts in a very traumatic situation. I certainly can't judge the girl harshly, and i think that other families in this day and age go through much more than both of these families have and have overcome thier situations. Without name calling, without projecting anger into the world via television. Free the Girl! she's learned her lesson, and if she hasn't she will!
 
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October 14, 2005, 11:11 pm PDT

crazy

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I believe in a fit of rage she killed her boyfriend and knew it. Why else would she try and cover up. She needs to accept what she did. 12 years is to short what is going to happen of this girl gets married and has kids and one of them does something she does not like. I do hope she gets some counceling befor she is released!  I feel for both familes no one want to believe their child killed someone no one wants to bury a child. I hope in the future both familes find peace.
this is insane! how many responses to these quotations bring up the fact that she tried to cover up the whole situation? this proves nothing more than the fact that this girl was 17!! how soon people forget the thought process of a teenager. 17 yr old CHILDREN don't see the whole picture. how bad of a society have we become when we think that giving a kid 12 years in prison is a "slap on the wrist?" I certainly hope that you people aren't the jury if i ever happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time! You certainly aren't my peers. Revenge and hatred have no place in a legal system built on fairness and justice.
 
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October 14, 2005, 11:12 pm PDT

Please clarify

Ok, Im just not at all sure I can completely understand all of this, seems to be conflicting stories.  People, this happened in a trailer park, How could he die in front of his dad's house if he was hit in front of his dads house and thrown 58 ft. and hit a truck.  Now lets go to the theory that she swerved into the yard, this happened in November, in MIssouri, so the grass would be damp, she was going down hill, swerved into the yard where he was hit, according to Stephs account, walking back to the house, and he landed on concrete.  How did she avoid the truck or another house if she swerved into the yard, with a front wheel drive car she would have slide into a house.  Now if she is swerving into the yard, how were there tire marks in the road.  Which to me would seem if there are tire marks from HER car she was either slamming the brakes or accelerating but I dont see how she could be swerving, leaving marks and not hitting anything else around at the time besides Daniel.  While I am sorry for the loss the Mize family has suffered, but the best line of the show was when Brandi's dad said Sheila wanted revenge.  Letting Brandi sit in jail serves very little purpose in my eyes, she will live with this every day for the rest of her life, They were a young couple that were in love as teenagers go and not always the most rational during emotional times.  I just find it ironic at times how after people are killed they become some kind of martyr to people that didnt have time for them when they were alive.   

 
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October 15, 2005, 2:55 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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"Who does Daniel's mother think she is", Oh my God, are you serious???? Daniel's mother is a mom that is hurting from the loss of her baby being ripped out of her arms by a selfish , lying brat, and I say selfish because she was only thinking of herself and not the welfare Daniel ! You can't convince me that she did not know she hit him? The pictures of the car speak for itself, and she knew because she tried to cover it up by placing a tree branch in the windshield !  His mother was displaying the feelings of a very heartbroken, emotional wreck , with her heart breaking at  the mere mention of his name. I'm sorry for the loss of your daughter, but I can almost guarantee if you knew the killer of her and had a chance to go face to face with them you would have a whole different opinion. I say how dare her family to  come on national television and try to down play the enormous impact this has had on Daniel's family. I am a Christian and I to agree God will deal with the girl in his own time, and I do agree Daniel's mom must try to find a way to forgive Brandi. But I'm sure when your daughter was taken from you that you didn't just jump up and say "I have to forgive"! And I despise you saying " pray more for Daniel's family because they have no hope of ever seeing Daniel because of the hatred they have displayed on the air.  Read your bible lady,  There is nothing but hope because God knows grief and knows how people deal with grief and he knows in time the heart softens and only he knows her heart. Brandi deserves to be forgiven, but that doesn't mean she should not pay for what she did, by spending a very long time in jail. At least her mom gets to hear her baby's voice, what does Daniel's mom have????  

You are absolutely right! 

  

I think it is time that people stop 'advising' other people how to cope with their pain. Brandi is alive and whatever pain her family is going through they know that they still have their daughter, Daniel has left his family with memories and alot of pain. God forbid anyone should go through that. 

  

  

  

  

  

 
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October 15, 2005, 4:56 am PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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If you were there and saw everything, then why would there even be a plea bargain if they knew they could get Brandi for murder 1 with your testimony? Just wondering.

Obviously, you have never had anything like this happen in your circle of family and friends.  Unfortunately, that is how the court system works.  It doesn't matter who saw what, if they can get someone to take a plea agreement, that saves the taxpayers money and the courts time. 

 
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October 15, 2005, 5:16 am PDT

She is in my prayers

Since the show I have had her on my mind.  I think she did not have the proper lawyer for this case or the parents could not or did not understand exactly what the plea bargian meant.  I beleive that if they went to trial with the best lawyer they could afford (even if it meant selling your home and living in an apartment) she would not be in jail.  People do more than that and get out with community service.  I am a mother of three daughters and I have been fearful that they make the right choices and don't land in jail.  But I do know that I would do what ever I could to not have them spend time there.  Years ago I had a customer (I was ahairdresser) who's nephew spent one night in jail because his parents wanted to teach him a lesson and not bail him out until the next day.  Well when they went to get him he was dead.  He was only 16 years old.  My heart goes out to her and pray that after 12 years there she gets help to not be a bitter woman.  

 
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October 15, 2005, 5:44 am PDT

Brandi

 She was one of the most cold, robotic person I have ever seen.  The only thing she is remorseful for is the fact that she is in jail.  I guess she gets her attitude from her parents.  Those ppl sat on that stage trying to put Daniel and his family down.  HELLO, YOUR SOCIOPATH DAUGHTER COLDLY RAN THEIR SON OVER.  WAKE UP! 

 
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October 15, 2005, 6:21 am PDT

Explain this

         

                   Just a thought...  If Brandi turned around to go back to Daniel's house to return a skate why was she going 30-60mph when she was in front of his house??  I would think that if I were planning on stopping I would not be driving that fast, especially at night. It's a shame that this case did not go to trial.     Jen  

 
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October 15, 2005, 6:24 am PDT

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I think she is very sorry for hitting him but I think she should have went home and told her parnets right away. She knew she hit something because of the car was damaged. I truly think her hole family is sorry I am sure she never ment to do this. She said he threated her and was a abusive. people like that need help she should have told someone and maybe this realtionship could have ended a while ago. I think she is inncocent. Maybe it was self defense I  think the parnets of Daniel need to forgive I know it is hard but god and Daniel knows what really happen. MAybe you should have Dr Phil get that Brown women on here and ask her some questions. I trull think she is innocent accidents do happen PLease forgive her and her family I am sure they are suffering also for the daughter being in jail. She has to live with that everday of her life that she killed someone. I belive this should have went to trail and not just a plea bargin. I myself would have never let my daughter do a plea bargin if i thought she was inncocent it would go to trail. Today kids are so aggressive but her being in jail is doing nothing she lives with that pain. She needs to be let go i think she is innconet. Good luck to both familys you both will be in my prays
 
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October 15, 2005, 7:10 am PDT

Cars are dangerous weapons

Why are cars never seen for what they are? Guns and cigarettes are called bad and banned but cars are advertized in beautiful landscapes and filled with happy people. This is not the case. Statistically, a car is guaranteed to cause you harm at least once in your life. 

  

Brandi is in jail to avoid questions about teenagers and cars. There is a corporate agreement going on with the courts to blame the driver and not the car. What Brandi has done is seen as more harmful to the economy than to Daniel's family. She has gone and put the sacred car in a bad light. 

  

These two families need to get along. They have been kept at each other's throats through some clever tricks on the part of the system which is very friendly towards professionals and car companies. 

  

For the sake of the economy and other people's greed and political power, we are told that we can trust cars, doctors, lawyers and police. Too many people have learned the hard way that this is not totally true. This case is filled with a lot of tragedy. Political spin is one factor. And the fact that Brandi is a girl.  

 
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