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Topic : 03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

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Created on : Friday, October 07, 2005, 03:42:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/13/05) In a heartbeat, your entire life can change. No one knows this better than the families of Brandi and Daniel. Seventeen-year-old Brandi was a cheerleader, an excellent student and an all-American girl. She was in love with athletic 18-year old Daniel. Now he’s dead and she finds herself behind bars serving a 12-year sentence, all because of what happened in just a split second. Was it murder or simply a horrific accident? Hear members of both families describe how the tragedy unfolded, and the struggle to put together the pieces of their shattered lives. Plus, Dr. Phil visits Brandi in prison to ask some very hard questions. She has an emotional message for Daniel's mother -- and for Daniel. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 15, 2005, 11:49 am PDT

re staying out:

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 As far as I know, victim impact statements are used in the courts a lot.  Why should THIS family's experience be any different?  Why would you WANT them to stay out of it?  That's ridiculous.  Something is very wrong here. These are the VICTIMS of what Brandi did. They are the wronged party, not the other way around.  I don't see why they should have to "Stay out of" anything.

If you could get someone to come to truth with herself, as well as have your son's reputation cleared, wouldn't you be willing to let the courts impose the sentence?  

  

  

 
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October 15, 2005, 11:52 am PDT

Forgiveness

     I am sorry for both families.  Neither Daniel nor Brandi was totally innocent.  I believe there was much to their relationship.  I do believe Brandi when she says it was abusive and controlling.  I believe Daniel didn't know how to get out of the relationship.  There was something that happened that evening.  I don't believe Brandi is totally innocent, nor do I believe she intentionally ran over Daniel.  She should not have been driving a stolen car, she should not have been driving while emotinally impaired.  But she did drive away from the scene of an accident.  She knew she had hit something, even if she didn't know it was Daniel.  She was driving at a high rate of speed, not 20 MPH, to have thrown Daniel.  In today's society, we don't show examples of taking responsibility for our actions.  We try to down play them, ignore them hoping they will go away, or out and out lie to try to avoid taking responsibility. 

     Both families need to lay aside their anger, forgive so they can move on.  They are destroying themselves, their families, in an attempt to prove something.  Forgiveness does not say, I don't think you did anything wrong, It says I chose not to let the circumstances control my life.  Without forgiveness you will never move on and will continue to dig your hole deeper 

 
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October 15, 2005, 12:12 pm PDT

Just a thought.......

Since he threatened to kill her and her brother, couldn't she have pleaded self-defense?... she might have gotten a better bargain then saying "he threw himself in front of the car"... 

  

  

Still on the fence on this, but I have trouble believing it was just an accident and i think she'll be lucky to be out in 9 years...  

  

 
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October 15, 2005, 12:32 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Why are cars never seen for what they are? Guns and cigarettes are called bad and banned but cars are advertized in beautiful landscapes and filled with happy people. This is not the case. Statistically, a car is guaranteed to cause you harm at least once in your life. 

  

Brandi is in jail to avoid questions about teenagers and cars. There is a corporate agreement going on with the courts to blame the driver and not the car. What Brandi has done is seen as more harmful to the economy than to Daniel's family. She has gone and put the sacred car in a bad light. 

  

These two families need to get along. They have been kept at each other's throats through some clever tricks on the part of the system which is very friendly towards professionals and car companies. 

  

For the sake of the economy and other people's greed and political power, we are told that we can trust cars, doctors, lawyers and police. Too many people have learned the hard way that this is not totally true. This case is filled with a lot of tragedy. Political spin is one factor. And the fact that Brandi is a girl.  

When companies start to develope cars with minds of their own, it will be a great relief, we'll be able to sue them for every parking ticket, dui, and even murder! 

 Until then, every driver will be accountable for the 'cars' actions. 

 
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October 15, 2005, 12:42 pm PDT

To Brandi:

Whether he was resurrected or not, Jesus is very useful in these matters. 

  

Jhn 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.  

 

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October 15, 2005, 1:20 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

I watched the show today and noticed that when Dr. Phil spoke with Brandi everytime she was talking about not knowing she hit Daniel, or that she didn't do it on purpose she wouldn't look him in the eye.  She looked everywhere but at Dr.Phil.  The parts of her story that are believeable she looks directly at him, where she is not telling the truth she looks away. 

  

She got 12 yearsand  I hope for Daniel's family she serves each and every day. 

  

Brandi's family needs to get help for the sake of their son.  As a parent I can understand the need to stand behind their daughter.  We all want to believe in our children.  Brandi does show remorse for killing Daniel, her family needs to do the same.  For them to compare not seeing their daughter to Daniels family loss is insane.  Daniels family only have their memories.  Brandi's family will one day be back together to build new ones.  They need to learn to show compashion to Daniel's family, because it was their daughter who took his life. 

  

I hope Dr. Phil does a follow-up on this show. 

 

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October 15, 2005, 2:00 pm PDT

The point .....

When the show first aired there were posts that addressed the families but those posts seem to be put aside with all the finger pointing. 

I think the main point of Dr. Phil's show was to address the pain that both families have, the healing that they both need, and the children that are left behind.   

There was a reason that Brandi's brother and Daniel's brother were highlighted.  One would imagine that in taping for television much ends up on the cutting room floor.  These boys images and their words were not left there.   

Brandi's brother is having trouble trusting authority.  His grades are suffering.  The image presented was one of someone who has withdrawn from life, from joy, from youth.  He has most likely suffered in silence as the attention was shifted to Brandi and the case for well over a year.  The focus and bulk of attention seems to still be on Brandi's plight.   

Daniel's brother David said that he asked his mother, "Why do you always cry when you hug me?"  And she told him she 'sees Daniel'.  Well ... the first thing she needs to see is that David is alive, front and center, that she needs to SEE David.  He was and is hurting.  He was crying out for help from someone during those years from the death to the plea bargain and it appears that his cry for help went unheeded.  The mom may be mourning the time lost that she never spent with Daniel and the time lost that she never will.  But the opportunity has presented itself for her to be present in her son's life now and she needs to seize that opportunity to love him for who he is and be with him for who he is.  Who would want to be looked upon all the time as the object of the loss?  She needs to put some of her energy that is so focused on revenge (quote from the show that she wanted revenge) and pour that energy into loving the son that is here. 

   

 
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October 15, 2005, 2:01 pm PDT

HATEFUL MAYBE BUT HURTING DEFINATELY

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I agree, those were some hateful words.  As a mother she is supposed to be setting an example for the children remaining.  What an example that is.  Complete drama queen.  She wasn't so worried for the 5 years she wasn't in his life.  His dad said he was living with him at the time, so what, out of sight, out of mind?  Well then, what is she so angry about now.  That is horrible to say, and I am a mother, but nothing would keep me from my children and if one would, god forbid, die, i would know i spent every time with them i could and i would try to mourn and hopefully move on with my life for my other child. She is just so hateful and setting such a horrible example for her daughter that her daughter is just feeding off that anger and nothing healthy will ever come from that.

 Her words are not of a woman who really cares at this time in her life, as I see it she is hurting and maybe shes not handleing the way we think she should or say what we might want her to say, but let us all remerber what she has just gone through and have alot of compassion for a mother who has lost a child. WE all may sit here and say what we might do or not do but if you have never gone through what this mother has how would you know what you would and you are never prepared for such a tragid in ones life. So as we read these comments lets have some compassion for two family how both have gone through so much. Let pray that they find forgiviness in their hearts so they can get on with their own life and not let hate consume them and waste precious time hateing each other, it won't bring Daniel back and it won't help Bradi get out of prison. I fill prayer is the best thing for everyone involved in this sad tragedy that two innocent kids has lost their lifes and two familys have lost their childerns. And yes Brandi has lost her innocent of just being a kid.So please no one tell me that she hasn't lost anything 

 
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October 15, 2005, 2:13 pm PDT

unfair

DR. Phil was out of line on this one. I can not beleive he was telling the parents of the boy to foregive the parents of the girl. she was mad and in a fit of rage when she turned that car around. If she would have felt threatend, she never would have turned around.
 
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October 15, 2005, 2:31 pm PDT

Found more info

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Then how did she hit him from behind?????  How could he not have heard or seen her coming down the street???  If someone is speeding down my street, I will turn and watch.  Does that make sense to anyone?  She's irate, she's revving her engine, she's speeding down the street toward them, they walk along, arguing about whether or not to call the police on this girl and do not even glance back to see what she's doing NOW. 

I did finally find a few articles in Sun Publications-Northland Sun News.   

  

Not much more info but a little.  There is just not enough info for me to make a definite conclusion.I have some opinions, but those could be changed if I were in a jury and got to hear all evidence.  

 
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