Topic : 03/08 Stalking the Stars

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Created on : Friday, October 14, 2005, 03:42:20 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/17/05) Do you catch yourself mesmerized by the photos in People or US Weekly magazines, looking to see who's wearing what, who's drunk and who's kissing whom? We can't get enough of celebrities, but when does our obsession go too far? Dr. Phil's first guests are two photographers who capture famous faces — but one is a paparazzo who chases down the stars, while the other is invited by celebs to take their pictures. Then, meet two women who can't stop obsessing over their favorite celebrity. Tabitha's infatuation with Tommy Lee is holding her back from meeting her "real" soul mate, and taking time and money away from her 3-year-old daughter. Could something biological be causing her obsession? And, Jenni wants to be the famous twin Mary-Kate Olsen so badly, it's ruining her life and could be killing her. Share your thoughts.

 

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October 18, 2005, 1:22 pm PDT

10/17 Stalking the Stars

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Jenni, we love you and will always be there for you.   

No one can possibly imagine what another person is going through.  It took courage to speak out about this.   

Those who really care will stand beside you.  Count me in as someone who cares about you and loves you and that sweet little one you blessed us with. 

  

Jenni: I have seen some of the comments that other people have written and I would have to say that they have no idea what you are going through. One stated that you were looking for attention and need to grow up. I would say first of all I don't think that someone would get on national TV and admit to what you are doing just to get attention. Those people do not know what you are going through or have been through so they have no right to judge you or anyone. I would hope that Dr. Phil helps you get help for your problem and you keep in mind how this will affect your daughter. I hope everything ends up the way you want it.  Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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October 18, 2005, 10:32 pm PDT

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I'm WAS so obsessed with jay mcgraw that i fantasied about being his wife and being apart of his family, and when i found out he was engaged i was depressed for like a month the first 5 days were hell i didn't eat didn't sleep i just cried.... Anyone else ever have this problem with a guy celeb b4 or am i the only one. i immediatly knew whatthe gilr who is obsessed with tommy lee felt like, i still get upset when i think of him and it's sad. Anyone else out there feel the way i feel 

 

 

you're not the only one with a celeb obsession to the point that if you found out they got married or engaged that you got depressed, couldn't eat, sleep, etc.  

  

you see, our [society's] problem is that we're ebsessed with celebs [and gossip] to the point that it's getting out of control. it's gotten so now that they flood the entertainment news, taloids, and magazines with so much gossip and so-called 'info' about celebrities, that a lot of us who like to read stuff like that don't even know what's true and what's not anymore, so it causes confusion for both the celebs and their fans. i don't really like reading that stuff anymore, b/c it really upsets me. the less trash you read, the better you life [and mental state] will be.  

  

there's a celeb, [who'll remain nameless] who's an amazing vocalist and is really cute, but when i heard he had a girlfriend over 2 years ago, it kind of upset me to the point that i lost my appitite and got a little depressed that day. it was during a time when i had a huge crush on him, and he was who i thought about day and night. it was a compulsive thing that i couldn't control. [i have a form of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder [O.D.C.], so it makes sense.  

  

sense i saw that day's episode abou the woman named Tabitha, i've realized that i could also have Narcolipesy, too, b/c i HAVE to daydream or fantasize if i'm gonna keep my brain stimulated and awake, and on the outside I'm a pretty lazy person; i've never even had a job.  

  

even up to this day when i see pictures of him and her together, i feel a repulsiveness so great that i nearly break my mouse trying to click away from the picture. it just looks so glamourous and Hollywood-like. it's just that his grilfriend is so perfect, a white girl, skinny, blonde, a C-cup, smiley, gorgeous, etc. when you see stuff like that, it makes you feel like you don't measure up. i even put her down on the message boards sometimes and end up looking like a fool, b/c other fans scold me about it; but most of them are happily married themselves, so they don't understand how i feel. but i justify it by saying that 'You Don't Know Him Like That, so WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING HIM?!' just to shut them up. 

  

another problem is that i don't have any friends, much less a close-knit family, so i get ignored a lot. other members of my family have obsessions over people and things, but they're attainable and within reach, so it's only people they know personally, and not celebs. so i guess it's safe to say that i obsess over celebs because i'm a lonely person, and don't really have a job, so i have too much time on my hands, enough time to check up on what these people are up to. so when i talk about celebs, for some odd reason my sisters don't respond; i don't know whether they ignore me, or tune me out b/c they think i'm weird for talking about people who are total strangers.  

  

 
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October 19, 2005, 6:25 am PDT

Mary Kate girl

People what is up with you? you need to get real God made only one of us and we are each one of a kind. there is no other like us.  Even identical twins have there own personallity and are only one of a kind. enjoy being who you are not that we can not better ourselves, but in our own way, not in someone else's shadow.  I say get a grip, it is like going to get anew hair style and wondering why we do not look like that picture in the book. dah!!!! that is not us we do not all have the same features, hair consistance, sometimes even color. say to yourself every morning and every night I AM A GOOD PERSON AND TRY TO LEARN TO LIKE YOURSELF.
 
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October 19, 2005, 11:45 am PDT

It's Jenni

Hey everyone.  I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who supported me and posted such positive messages.   I'm working hard and trying to take Dr. Phil's advice to become the person that I know I can be. 
 
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October 19, 2005, 12:45 pm PDT

Leave Amy Lee alone!!!!

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Well, if it makes a difference I'm over obsessed with Amy Lee (( Lead Singer of Evanescence)). At first I thought it was the band I had my heart set on knowing everything about, but it's mainly Amy. Posters, CDs, I have a shrine right next to my window with all three albums on stands! I even keep them dusted. I have books, and I'm only interested in the quotes that Amy has contributed. I got for the look as well, even though it's mainly just a stage look. Make-up I even tried to grow my hair down to my butt, and pale my face with make-up. I'm on a diet to get as thin as her --;  

  

I've taken the clothes into consideration as well, geez a lou! Boots everything! I've spent entire paychecks on a wardrobe...JUST TO LOOK LIKE HER. I've practiced singing like her, and I know more about her then most Evanescence fans. What's even worse, I know her birthday and actually celebrate it, know her age, and I even know where she's currently living --; I also know her height...ect...I know I'm obsessed and what scares me is I don't even care. o.o  

Hi. I am a huge Evanesence fan. I think that they are an awesome band with plenty of wicked original tunes. Amy Lee is simply awesome. The raven-haired beauty has real industrial-strength vocal chords. However, your approach has me worried. She does not deserve to have her life obsessed by someone else they way you do. Keep listening to the tunes but try to do something more to define your life apart from copying Amy's actual life. Who knows? You may actually identify a talent of your own that'll make you function more normally than what you're currently doing.  FTP
 
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October 19, 2005, 2:30 pm PDT

triggering because

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 That wasn't Dr. Phil's only  course of action in her treatment, but for this girl, it was the most obvious.   It's different for everyone and everyone does have something positive to draw from.  If you don't have a child, there are inner qualities you can draw from too. 

What do you mean it was 'triggering'?   Why don't you seek some help?


The show was triggering from seeing mk all over the screen. Triggering means that it made me want to quit eating. I do need help, but I am never going to see a psychiatrist. I don't want help- let alone from prescription drugs.  I've dealt with anorexia for years.  This show just did not show me that I need to stop.  I gained weight because I felt so bad being 70 pounds, but now I just want to lose it- not just because of the show, but my weight gain does affect my life and the way people treat me. I do not have that many good qualities- none without anorexia.
 
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October 19, 2005, 2:33 pm PDT

why?

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That comment had me laughing, thanks!!  I had a few comments-- I don't remember Dr. Phil asking Jenni why she didn't like herself.  It is obvious that she has no self esteem but why?  She is a beautiful young lady--- I hope that she takes his advice to heart and seeks some help especially for her daughter's sake.  Kids notice everything their parents do and want to emulate them, so Jenni could end up passing on this disorder to her daughter.  It is sad that so many young people think that what they see in the magazine and TV is real.  Celebrities have make up artists, hair stylists, wardrobe assistants.... they don't look like that on their own--- it takes a village, so they say!!  The magazines touch up photos (have you ever noticed that women in magazines never have lines on their foreheads?) Sometimes, it's not even their own body but someone else's.  Photos can lie!   

  

When I was in my teens/twenties, I was extremely skinny--- not because I was anorexic, though.  I never consciously dieted or did anything that caused me to be skinny, just genetics I guess.  But it can be a curse as well, I got a lot of jokes about if I stood sideways and stuck out my tongue I looked like a zipper.  I was made fun of by alot of people, it definitely wasn't something the guys liked.  People tried to feed me all the time!!   When I look at my highschool yearbook, all the signatures in there made comments about me being so skinny.   This was a few years before anorexia got so much attention, with Karen Carpenter's death.  Anyway, my point is that being too skinny is not attractive, it looks unhealthy.  I grew out of my 'problem' after having three children, I finally have filled out in a few places.   I finally think I look good, no more ribs showing or hipbones sticking out.  I like my "mom" body. 

  

Finally, I agree with the people here saying to be happy with yourself!  This isn't about being perfect but learning to love ourselves the way were are.  God made only one YOU!   

  

Why don't we try to emulate celebrities that exhibit good virtues instead of just the outside?  I haven't always been a Dr. Phil fan (my dad kept telling me to watch his show, so I did and now I love Dr. Phil!)  Dr. Phil is a good person who uses his celebrity and wealth to help others.  That's something that people should want to emulate! 

"When I was in my teens/twenties, I was extremely skinny--- not because I was anorexic, though.  I never consciously dieted or did anything that caused me to be skinny, just genetics I guess.  But it can be a curse as well, I got a lot of jokes about if I stood sideways and stuck out my tongue I looked like a zipper.  I was made fun of by alot of people" 

  

Saying stuff like this in NO way helps ED people. The only thing this does is just make us feel bad.  We're ana because obviously we get something out of being skinny. No one teases me when I lose- the exact opposite actually. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 2:51 pm PDT

excuse me?

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I am 20 years old and went to a private all girl school in middle and high school. Many of these girls were very high achievers. Many of these girls were very isolated and coddled from the world. Many of them had "eating disorders". 

  

I find it interesting how eating disorders are something that have only really been in existence for the past 30 years.Most of these girls are like you and don't really have any "real world" experience. I also find it interesting how statistically speaking it tends to effect middle, upper-middle, and upper class caucasian girls from the suburbs in North America and Western Europe. Almost no one in Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, and South America has these so called "disorders."  

  

You sound like you are almost proud of your eating disorder. You brag about your scrapbook and you refer to celebrities. I personally find it disappointing that all of the years and struggle that went to women's liberation has ended up with well off girls obsessing about their bodies. Just think about your true motivations for doing these things and not the usual cliches of "I want to be perfect."Do you think some rural peasant Chinesse farmer woman is going to be counting calories? Or even a migrant farmer girl here in this country? Do you think that guys, or anyone else for that matter, wants you to be or cares if you are 85 pounds? Or are you doing this for attention and to give you something to talk about on the so called "pro ana" sites out there with your girlfriends? 

  

I don't mean to necessarily sound harsh or cold, I just feel like maybe had the girls who have these disorders would have been treated more harshly by their parents and society, making themselves puke or starving themselves would be the last thing on their mind. 

"I don't mean to necessarily sound harsh or cold, I just feel like maybe had the girls who have these disorders would have been treated more harshly by their parents and society, making themselves puke or starving themselves would be the last thing on their mind. " 

  

I can tell by your message that you do not know much about ED's. Many anorexics/bulimics have had really bad lives. A lot have been abused.  I am treated different with my ED, and you cannot tell me that I am basically spoiled.  True, people who are really poor don't have these problems very often at all- but that's because their friends/family don't treat them differently based on how they look. Don't you people get it?-- A skinny person is treated better by society (models, actresses), members of the opposite sex (you get too skinny they finally leave you alone), friends/family/acquaintances (they treat you as if you are innocent and sweet). Skinny people look younger and they don't look grown up. It's a way to erase the past, go back and 'fix' everything. I hate looking like a woman- men look at me.   

  

So, no parents being tougher won't work because being too skinny shows people that something is wrong. Someone will always react- even if it's not the parents. It shows people the hurt, pain, and guilt. People respond to it. It's not for attention- it's for lack of attention to being older and sexual. 

  

  

 
 
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October 19, 2005, 4:10 pm PDT

You've just made a new friend

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you're not the only one with a celeb obsession to the point that if you found out they got married or engaged that you got depressed, couldn't eat, sleep, etc.  

  

you see, our [society's problem is that we're ebsessed with celebs [and gossip to the point that it's getting out of control. it's gotten so now that they flood the entertainment news, taloids, and magazines with so much gossip and so-called 'info' about celebrities, that a lot of us who like to read stuff like that don't even know what's true and what's not anymore, so it causes confusion for both the celebs and their fans. i don't really like reading that stuff anymore, b/c it really upsets me. the less trash you read, the better you life [and mental state will be.  

  

there's a celeb, [who'll remain nameless who's an amazing vocalist and is really cute, but when i heard he had a girlfriend over 2 years ago, it kind of upset me to the point that i lost my appitite and got a little depressed that day. it was during a time when i had a huge crush on him, and he was who i thought about day and night. it was a compulsive thing that i couldn't control. [i have a form of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder [O.D.C., so it makes sense.  

  

sense i saw that day's episode abou the woman named Tabitha, i've realized that i could also have Narcolipesy, too, b/c i HAVE to daydream or fantasize if i'm gonna keep my brain stimulated and awake, and on the outside I'm a pretty lazy person; i've never even had a job.  

  

even up to this day when i see pictures of him and her together, i feel a repulsiveness so great that i nearly break my mouse trying to click away from the picture. it just looks so glamourous and Hollywood-like. it's just that his grilfriend is so perfect, a white girl, skinny, blonde, a C-cup, smiley, gorgeous, etc. when you see stuff like that, it makes you feel like you don't measure up. i even put her down on the message boards sometimes and end up looking like a fool, b/c other fans scold me about it; but most of them are happily married themselves, so they don't understand how i feel. but i justify it by saying that 'You Don't Know Him Like That, so WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING HIM?!' just to shut them up. 

  

another problem is that i don't have any friends, much less a close-knit family, so i get ignored a lot. other members of my family have obsessions over people and things, but they're attainable and within reach, so it's only people they know personally, and not celebs. so i guess it's safe to say that i obsess over celebs because i'm a lonely person, and don't really have a job, so i have too much time on my hands, enough time to check up on what these people are up to. so when i talk about celebs, for some odd reason my sisters don't respond; i don't know whether they ignore me, or tune me out b/c they think i'm weird for talking about people who are total strangers.  

  

Hey i completley know how you feel about that celeb, i fantasize everyday about a celeb (not jay) Benjamin McKenzie from my favorite show The O.C i imagine myself being with him his wife the mother of his kids, or else i can't focus or stay awake, i go wacko if i don't dream. You made a new friend, seeing as how you said you don't have many, you don't have to have alot of friends as long as you have a couple of really good trust worthy friends, thats all you need. Who is the guy that you fantacize about if you don't mind me asking? I don't think you are weird, cuz i'm the same way and i don't think i'm weird. We should keep talking to eahc other i love thses message boards, lots of great ppl on them. ttyl take care, whats your real name by the way, mine is Christina.
 
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October 20, 2005, 10:30 am PDT

why are you always crying

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"When I was in my teens/twenties, I was extremely skinny--- not because I was anorexic, though.  I never consciously dieted or did anything that caused me to be skinny, just genetics I guess.  But it can be a curse as well, I got a lot of jokes about if I stood sideways and stuck out my tongue I looked like a zipper.  I was made fun of by alot of people" 

  

Saying stuff like this in NO way helps ED people. The only thing this does is just make us feel bad.  We're ana because obviously we get something out of being skinny. No one teases me when I lose- the exact opposite actually. 

Hey, I didn't say that to be insulting, I was merely commenting on my experience being too thin.  It wasn't fun at all, being made fun of and the last thing I would do is to make someone else feel badly.  I understand that people with eating disorders think that they look good.  The celebs are a lot skinnier these days than when I was a teen, I was only saying that I was one of those people whom everyone commented on and I didn't like the attention.  I guess that puts me on the opposite spectrum of this.   I have every sympathy for someone who is struggling with serious issues like anorexia, please accept my apology if I offended you.
 

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