Topic : 03/08 Stalking the Stars

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(Original Air Date: 10/17/05) Do you catch yourself mesmerized by the photos in People or US Weekly magazines, looking to see who's wearing what, who's drunk and who's kissing whom? We can't get enough of celebrities, but when does our obsession go too far? Dr. Phil's first guests are two photographers who capture famous faces — but one is a paparazzo who chases down the stars, while the other is invited by celebs to take their pictures. Then, meet two women who can't stop obsessing over their favorite celebrity. Tabitha's infatuation with Tommy Lee is holding her back from meeting her "real" soul mate, and taking time and money away from her 3-year-old daughter. Could something biological be causing her obsession? And, Jenni wants to be the famous twin Mary-Kate Olsen so badly, it's ruining her life and could be killing her. Share your thoughts.

 

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March 7, 2006, 2:53 pm PST

03/08 Stalking the Stars

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Hi this is my first message on the Dr Phil website. I was watching the show on Friday and noticed a preview for a show about a girl who is so influenced by Mary-Kate Olsen that she purges with a picture of her. I am the exact same way- when I was watching the show I quickly identified with the level of glamour and sucess thats now associated with eating disorders. My eating problems started long before I began to take notice of all of the shrinking celebrities now in Tinseltown, I became bulimic at the age of 13, and have struggled off and on with both bulimia and anorexia since then ( I am now 18)- this past year I've really gotten out of control. I feel that my perfectionism ( I've obtained a 4.0 average and graduated from a top school in the top 2 percent of my class- and I am starting NYU in the Fall, I've taken a year off to travel.) has lead to such a tremendous amount of stress and exhaustion that I need to keep atleast one thing in control in my life- my body. I am about 5'5 and 100 pounds, but my goal weight is 85 pounds, because thats Nicole Richie's weight, and I think she looks great now. I paste pictures of her together in a scrapbook and whenever I want to eat, I look at them- and imagine myself being that perfect. I also pasted a picture of her on my bathroom wall and when I am purging I do look at it. I feel the same way about Mary-Kate and Lindsay Lohan, but Nicole RIchie is my favorite "thinspiration." I weigh myself about 5 times a day and make up little rules in my head about punishments for eating too much. I never go above 400 calories.....I'm hoping to get treatment soon though, since its been happening for years now. Although celebrities obviously didn't cause my problems, seeing them in magazines with gorgeous bones poking out certainly doesn't help.

You are not alone. Although my eating disorder didn't originally stem from wanting the look like a celebrity, I definately feel that my obsession with the way certain stars look fuels it. I've been struggling with anorexia since I was about 10 years old. I'm now 16 years old and 5'7". At this height I've gotten down to 110 pounds. I look to Keira Knightley as "thinspiration". I think she is absolutely gorgeous. I watch all of her movies. I have a scrapbook with a bunch of pictures of her I've collected off the internet and in magazines. I dress like her and try to wear my hair and make-up the same way. We're the same height and it has been said that Keira Knightley weighs 115 pounds, but I dont' believe that. Even at 110 pounds, I still felt huge compared to her. I don't know how many people are aware of this, but there is a whole underground movement of girls on xanga.com who have eating disorders. I think that most people on this site who actually have an eating disorder (some people just pretend like they do...which is pretty screwed up) have the same feelings towards certain stars as I do. It's definately a problem, most are aware of this, but I don' think anything is going to change anytime soon. 

 
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March 7, 2006, 4:36 pm PST

who isn't doing it?

what girl who likes marykate isn't doing the same exact thing, hundreds are. just check greatestjournal, livejournal or myspace. i'm 16 and i love marykate olsen so much, and i have more respect for her now that she is recovering but i'm not judging her and putting her name everywhere and reminding her of her mistakes. this girl does need help but her parents shouldn't have brought her on a television show in front of millions of people. that's a job a psychologist should deal with. i'm sure this girl felt more pressure knowing that all these people were watching her and just purged even more, and i doubt this will even sink in. she needs to go away and slowly realize what's going on and she needs to want to get better or she won't, and i highly doubt she want's too - because with all the attention she's getting on her looks, i don't think she wants all the crude jokes to start coming back. 

 
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March 8, 2006, 12:39 am PST

Off the Subject a Little...

I was reading some of Doctor McGraws Tips. 

 

Nut Cracker Jokes.  lol 

 

It is  like in self Defense,  Hitting in the Family Jewels(Crotch area)..lol,Nut Cracker Jokes,  Or break a knee or open Hand in eyes.  Ladies then Run. 

 

TC. 

 

 

 
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March 8, 2006, 6:22 am PST

WHY PEOPLE

 we as women and men are so obsessed with being thin an beauty. The media has made us think that if our bodies are glamorous then our life will be glamorous. This is simply not true, our bodies are the most important machines we only get one how we take care of it is up to us anorexia and bulimia are not the answerers they are damaging to our bodies and our minds. I think what women and young teenagers need to realize that we are all different shapes and sizes and that true beauty is found with in. looks fade but who we are inside will never ever fade. Actors and Actresses are just like us they are normal people with High paying Jobs. I am sure that they struggle with things just like you and I do. When all there makeup comes off at night I am sure they say man why can't fans see me in this light for this is who I really am. I think we need to stop obsessing on what are movie icons look like and focus on who they are as people because who they are as people and the good they do is worth wanting to be like. Pluse  if we stop trying to get down to their weight and size then the media can not influence what their idea of beauty is. they will be forced to see what true beauty is. and that weight has nothing to do with it. I am 5"1" and I weigh 136lb yes I am over weight a little and my tummy is stretch mark central but I have had 2 beautiful children and I have a wonderful husband. and to me I think I am beautiful because my body has gone through the process of bringing life into the world and thats what people really see is that this women is young and she has wonderful children and is happy with who she is. so please stop obsessing over other people and start obsessing over you and how wonderful you are has a person and other people will see that in you and will think that you are the most beautiful person in the world. and if they don't think that then they don't truly love themselves.
 
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March 8, 2006, 7:38 am PST

Celebrities are just people, people!

They happened to be at the right place at the right time. Look at the Olsen twins; their mother took them for an audition when they were just babies, so they grew up in front of the cameras and became famous.  Suppose one of the other baby twin-sets had landed the roles?  The Olsens would have grown-up, gone to school, married, had regular jobs and nobody would have heard of them.  Why pattern your life after someone who happened to get lucky in the entertainment world?  

  

I admire people who spend their lives helping others.  Nurses, firemen, teachers -- I would much rather be like them. 

  

BTW.  I  weighed 105 lbs (5'6") for many  years.  Then one day I started to gain, due to several different factors. Now I'm around 150.  I'm just as happy now as I was thin. Maybe a little happier.  It was nice to walk down the street and have heads turn because I "looked like a model" but it's also nice to eat cookies and ice-cream while watching an old movie on TV.    Life is short -- have fun! 

 
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March 8, 2006, 8:17 am PST

ok.....

Quote From: golden1

     I certainly hope you DO get counseling--and soon. There's no telling how much time you have left before your cardiovascular system shuts down. Singer Karen Carpenter had the same problem; she didn't survive her obsession with being the "perfect" size. Anorexia and bulimia killed her--it will eventually kill you too if you don't get help.
All I can say is I was there too.  I was 130 pounds of muscle and dropped to 98 lbs, 2.5% body fat, and found out I was pregnant.  I had to eat in order to keep the pregancy, and after I had my child I had gained 100 lbs.  About a year ago, those tendencies started again and I dropped 40 lbs in two months.  I hate my body, my looks, everything.  There is a way to get over this disease, but you cannot do it by yourself.  I had to, bc my son's father would use anything he could against me, so I had to start eating again, on  a regular basis.  My friend would call me and tell me to eat while I was on the phone with her, and make me talk to her until I got into bed, so she would know I didnt throw up my food.  She even practically moved in with me until I was on a pattern again.  Eating is NOT to get you fat, it is to survive.  If you dont eat, then you will die, case and point.  I now wake up in the morning and look in the mirror.  I find one thing I love about myself and I start my day.  I refuse to keep a scale in the house.  I go about my day thinking that if I dont eat during it, then I will not wake up the next day, and who wants to miss out on a day, lifetime, or even a minute of not only their child's life, but their own?  Being alive is about using the time we have here wisely.  IT is a gift.  The best gift you could give yourself is not being rail thin, but being alive.  Not killing yourself slowly.  When I lost that weight, I finally told my parents taht I hadnt been eating, my mother said, Oh thats ok, honey, you look great!  My dad looked me dead in the eyes and said if I didnt start eating again, he was going to take my son away.  It woke me up to what was actually going on.  If you hate yourself that much, you can make a difference in your body and life with exercise, good eating, and healthy living.  I think that is something to look for...  If you cant findit, I pray for you because all you are doing is hurting everyone around you.  Not just yourself. 
 
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March 8, 2006, 8:20 am PST

03/08 Stalking the Stars

celebrities are just people. People out making a living and doing what they want but whatever the case they are just people and not worth chasing after and drooling over..............................I love my life and have never obsessed in wishing I was one of them on tv. They have absolutely nothing that I desire. even as a teen, I didn't obsess. yes, I had my favorites but you never saw a poster or anything like that on my walls. I think the obsession with other people comes from the lack of good self images in people as well as a dissatisfaction in ones life. To long after another person, wishing to be like them and drolling over them is a waste of time and energy. And for the most part, most people in hollywood are not great role models, I don't know what stastistics would show but I can bet that the divorce rate and the percentage of single parents is higher in these people then else where. It doesn't look like most of them marry out of love but for other reasons and of course this is why their marriages do not last.................I am so glad for videos and dvd's that my children have ben introduced to, I and my husband are not much into watching tv and we are training our kids to be the same way, there are better things to do in this world then to watch and droll over a celebrity in hollywood. What is there to be accomplished by living life through another person? absolutely nothing................................Why not droll over ones own accomplishments and desires, get out there and be your own person and follow your own dreams, the people that others are drolling over are making the mega bucks because there are those who sit in front of the tube watching them and in the meantime missing out on all the advantages that this world has to offer. I personally do not have the time to sit and droll over some one I don't know, definetly not worth the time of day for me...........................For those of you following in the footsteps of hollywood and ruining your bodies and lives, get professional help and be good to your self, people in hollywood are not worth ruing your lives over, all people in this society are just as imporant and special as any one on tv, probably even more so in a lot of ways. Those people are are just people and they really don't give a hoot about you all sitting in front of the tube and acting like them, I think they probably actually like that idea afterall it is society who helps them get paid and to be who they are, if it were not for the fans, they would have no career so of course they know what they are doing by getting every ones attention in the media, this is how they make their living. so in all reality, if we as a society would quit drolling and obsessing with the stars, we could be better off as a society getting off our butts and doing something productive with our lives and definetly have better role models for our children, They are not gonna be the influence in my home, they are not worth the time of day here in my house hold and every one is happy and healthy. Not missing a thing.
 
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March 8, 2006, 8:25 am PST

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They happened to be at the right place at the right time. Look at the Olsen twins; their mother took them for an audition when they were just babies, so they grew up in front of the cameras and became famous.  Suppose one of the other baby twin-sets had landed the roles?  The Olsens would have grown-up, gone to school, married, had regular jobs and nobody would have heard of them.  Why pattern your life after someone who happened to get lucky in the entertainment world?  

  

I admire people who spend their lives helping others.  Nurses, firemen, teachers -- I would much rather be like them. 

  

BTW.  I  weighed 105 lbs (5'6") for many  years.  Then one day I started to gain, due to several different factors. Now I'm around 150.  I'm just as happy now as I was thin. Maybe a little happier.  It was nice to walk down the street and have heads turn because I "looked like a model" but it's also nice to eat cookies and ice-cream while watching an old movie on TV.    Life is short -- have fun! 

yes, there are many people such as nurses, firemen, teachers that deserve admiration and our praise. celebrities just don't cut it for me. I personally think it is a waste of time to try to model after some one who really doesn't give a hoot about othres, they are in their jobs for money and it is their job to entice people to the tv otherwise they wouldn't have a career..I love life as it is for me and no way will hollywood take over my life. obsesssion certainly is a sickness......................
 
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March 8, 2006, 8:39 am PST

03/08 Stalking the Stars

I agree with others. I don't envy them. I don't want to be them. I almost feel sorry for them. Well, I feel sorry for those like the Hilton sisters who more or less grew up into it, yet they really didn't make their names internationally known until they put themselves out there, and not in a good way.  

  

I'm quite thin. I want to gain weight. I'm six feet tall and weigh probably just under 150. Not good. My husband is concerned because he can count my ribs. Yesterday morning, not realizing I had lost weight I didn't know I had to lose, I bumped my elbow against my hip bone and I could really feel it, more so than before. Yikes. However, my low-fat, whole foods almost-vegan diet certainly helps with that. I get looks when I wear my every day clothes of jeans and kahakis with dressy Tshirts, sweaters, blouses and dressy-casual boots. Even though I've not walked for recreation or exercise or hardly done a yoga pose since Semptember (I got lazy), I still turn heads. I'm sure that if I were to put on a skirt and blouse and covered my hairy, untoned legs with hose, I would still turn heads. However, I did when I weighed 10-15 pounds more. 

  

Somebody said that she wanted a celbrity's life becuase s/he would then know that she is loved, and worth stalking (the paparazzi). Yet, s/he would never have any real privacy. S/He would be "hated" the second she did something "wrong" or have people "hate" her/him simply because she is "pretty" and famous. Not the life I want. I am valued and loved because God chose to give me life. I am valued and loved because I have been blessed with a family, a husband who just loves me for me, and friends who also love me for me. While my office support job may not be glamours, I like it and I'm good at it. (I was joking with the secretary the other day that I could be doing grunt work in a factory for more money or do grunt work here and like it and be able to wear real clothes as opposed to a uniform or grubbies.)  

  

That's what matters.  

 
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March 8, 2006, 8:45 am PST

When will it all stop?

Quote From: golden1

     It infuriates me to see the stalkerazzi harassing some celebrity. Where will it end? What next, hide in the john and catch Mary-Kate Olsen on the commode? Bribe a house painter to take interior shots of Lindsay Lohan's place? And what does chasing someone down city streets, causing an accident and snapping pictures of the aftermath have to do with the First Amendment? (I must have missed that tidbit of information in my high American Government class!) That is precisely how Princess Diana lost her life; does it have to come to that? I can't wait to hear what these vultures have to say Monday!
 When we, the general public, stops idolizing these "stars"; When their own publisists stop setting up some of these situations; When the general public stops looking at their own lives as not as significant as these other people's lives; When the celeberity rags stop selling; When the publics lives aren't as empty until they get the next chance to see their "favorite star(s)"; When we stop watching all the award programs to see who's the best, and the list goes on.

When will these photogs stop? Probably never because we, the general public, require what they produce.
 

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