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Topic : 12/26 "I Am Right!"

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Created on : Friday, October 14, 2005, 03:44:44 pm
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(Original Airdate: 10/18/05) Would you rather be right or would you rather be happy? Stacey says she and her husband, Eddie, made a plan when they got married -- and it didn't have anything to do with Eddie's current goal of becoming an ultimate fighting champion.  Now she's giving him an ultimatum: "Give up the dream or give up me!“ Then, an entire family faces off against a mother in a debate about the weight of her 8-year-old daughter. Plus, a 30-year-old virgin saving himself for his soul mate wonders if he made the right decision. And, Jylana is determined to home school her son, but her husband, Mike, says he'll miss opportunities and become socially stunted. What does Dr. Phil think? Talk about the show here.

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October 18, 2005, 9:25 am PDT

Bright kids and home schooling

We have children that are very bright  (my daughter was reading chapter books on her own before kindergarten).  They were both bored in the primary grades in the school system because the lessons were geared to average intelligence.  We chose to keep them in school because socializing them is an important issue, but we also enriched their education at home.   

  

I found that different things excited them at different times.  My son was fascinated by numbers very young so he was learning about multiplying and graphs and negative numbers at 4.  My daughter is a very precocious writer and we are working on a novel. There have been times when biology was top (we dissected frogs and pig eyeballs ).  I just grabbed each wave an helped them ride it out. 

  

It is a compromise that has worked well.  My children are normal kids with lots of friends.  They love sports. The teachers tell us that both of them take a leadership role at school which is a good experience for them in the future. 

  

There is more to intelligence than academic performance.  Knowing how to get along with people, how to use self control to cope with tedium and how to independently explore one's interests is at least as important. 

 
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October 18, 2005, 9:28 am PDT

Redheads Unite

I can't believe that Dr Phil said,  “What if your soul mate is kind of short and dumpy and redheaded?”    What the heck does that mean.... Redheads of the world unite!!!!! 

 

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October 18, 2005, 10:24 am PDT

Virginity

I know this will infuriate all the religious folk on this board, but I think this focus on sex is much too overblown.  I don't think that what we do with our fun bits defines who we are, how well we will perform as spouses or how "good" we are.  I define good as being kind, generous and tolerant.  Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others.  If you want to be proud of something, do something that you can be proud of. 

  

 I would be MUCH more interested in a man who had had other serious relationships than I would be in a man who had reached the age of 30 without ever loving another person. I wouldn't expect him to be capable of having a deep relationship or be intimate.  To be able to be truly intimate with a partner, there has to be a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance-farts and all.  You can't ever be truly intimate with a woman when focused on their external appearance. 

 
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October 18, 2005, 11:52 am PDT

I Agree

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I don't think a person will be any dumber if they went to public school, private school, or home school.  I think whatever works for you is the best thing for you.  I went to public school and turned out fine.  At least I like to think so.  You shouldn't ask someone else if going to a certain school is right for you or your kids.  You should figure that out.

I agree with what you are saying....my kids go to public school and they love it....Moms or Dads that can home-school if that works for them great...personally I couldn't do it...I don't think I would have the stamina to do it....I do agree kids need social interaction....and I know parents are scared of drugs and violence but kids do need to learn how to deal with it...its there when they are kids and it will be there when they are adults. 

Melissa   

 
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October 18, 2005, 11:57 am PDT

10/18 "I Am Right!"

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I know this will infuriate all the religious folk on this board, but I think this focus on sex is much too overblown.  I don't think that what we do with our fun bits defines who we are, how well we will perform as spouses or how "good" we are.  I define good as being kind, generous and tolerant.  Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others.  If you want to be proud of something, do something that you can be proud of. 

  

 I would be MUCH more interested in a man who had had other serious relationships than I would be in a man who had reached the age of 30 without ever loving another person. I wouldn't expect him to be capable of having a deep relationship or be intimate.  To be able to be truly intimate with a partner, there has to be a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance-farts and all.  You can't ever be truly intimate with a woman when focused on their external appearance. 

You're certainly entitled to feel the way you do. It doesn't infuriate me.  

  

I remained a virgin partially for religious reasons but  there were other motivating factors. I had a healthy fear of STDs, which can do great damage. And I do think my sexual history defines part of who I am, although I don't think it makes me better than anyone else. 

  

"Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others. " 

  

That may be so. But there are plenty of non-virgins who are non-religious that are equally mean, selfish and intolerant. That's a rather wide brush to paint religious folks with.  

  

 
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October 18, 2005, 12:22 pm PDT

I think that's awesome...

Wow, I think that is just AWESOME for the 30 year old dude.  Praise God... God intended on sex to be for marriage (aka the marriage bed), so that's great.  =)   Nothing wrong w/ being a virgin.
 
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October 18, 2005, 12:24 pm PDT

10/18 "I Am Right!"

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 I think it is wonderful that Mark has saved his virginity. I hope he will stay strong in his commitment to waiting. I strongly believe that sex belongs in marriage. I believe this for many reasons, personal and religious. I was getting discouraged a while ago and beginning to think I was the only person over 20 that was still a virgin and was committed to saving my self for my spouse. Virginity is a gift that can only be given away once; you can never get it back. That is a gift I will save for my husband, and I pray that my husband has saved that gift for me. I think people need to protect that gift and be proud of respecting themselves enough to save that gift for the person they are going to marry. 

Amen! That's so awesome!!! :)  Keep waiting & hang in there!!
 
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October 18, 2005, 12:26 pm PDT

30-year old virgin

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How sad it is that society doesn't view virginity as sacred!!!!!!!!  I am older then 30 and am.  I believe in marriage before having sex.  I was made fun of for many years.  A very special person told me, "That's the way it is suppose to be!"  He was the first person to validate my choice.  A mental health professional said to me, "That is really odd at your age." and quickly changed the subject.  I am very glad I am and if I die a virgin, SO BE IT!!!  That is the way to suppose to be!!!
When I heard this, I just thought "yuk!"  This guy is a desperado.  I'm glad I met my soul mate and he loved me the way I am (and we got to enjoy things while we were young and hot!!!).  I honor his choice if it's for religious reasons, but I'm glad it's not mine.  It almost makes my skin crawl, though!
 
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October 18, 2005, 12:26 pm PDT

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Mark, 

First, I would like to tell you that I esteem you very highly for your decision to remain a virgin until marriage. You are extremely rare in this age we are living in. I beg of you--PLEASE don't second guess your decision and cave in to pressure from others who say that being a virgin is unnatural. It is purity in God's eyes and He will bless you and your marriage if you keep yourself only for your future wife. What a precious gift to give her! 

Second, I would like to tell you about my life experience concerning "soul mates". I am a Christian woman. I believe and try to live according to God's Word. One of the principles in the Bible is for a Christian not to "yoke" him or herself with a person who is not a Christian. With that said, I'll tell you this story. I met what I would call my "soul mate" when was eleven. He was my best friend and I loved him. However, he was not a Christian, so for me to marry him would have been going against God's Word. A sin. So I didn't marry him.  

Part of God's will is His perfect will, which is what He would want us to choose in any given situation. (Because He created us with a free will, He never forces us one way or another concerning decisions in our llives.) Another part of God's will is His permissive will. I would explain it like this: I could be attracted to two different men as a future husband. Both are Christians, both are living lives that are pleasing to God, and either one would be acceptable as a spouse, but God allows me to choose. Either way I decide, it's ok with Him and marrying either man would not be a sin. I ended up choosing a man who is a believer and has now been my husband for 8 years. He wasn't my original "soul mate", but absolutely, without a doubt he is now.  

I wanted to tell you this, hoping that it would encourage you. You may not necessarily know immediately if a woman is your destiny, but she could definitely grow to become your perfect woman. I'm going to start praying for you today. 

That was a great message =) God bless!!
 
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October 18, 2005, 12:36 pm PDT

Attention 30 Year Old Virgin-Dr Phil I can set him up

I live in Ontario and I know a young woman who is a 27 year old virgin who has also been looking for her sole mate.  She too is a christian who has been saving her self for her sole mate.   If someone can forward this to the 30 year old virgin that was just on his show - I could help them meet.   We don't live far from Guelph and she grew up in that area.   She is not blonde.   She was not a beauty queen in her small city however, she has beautiful long red hair and she is very attractive.   I don't know if a moderator reads this board or not but if possible - I would be happy to help them meet.
 
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