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Topic : 12/26 "I Am Right!"

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(Original Airdate: 10/18/05) Would you rather be right or would you rather be happy? Stacey says she and her husband, Eddie, made a plan when they got married -- and it didn't have anything to do with Eddie's current goal of becoming an ultimate fighting champion.  Now she's giving him an ultimatum: "Give up the dream or give up me!“ Then, an entire family faces off against a mother in a debate about the weight of her 8-year-old daughter. Plus, a 30-year-old virgin saving himself for his soul mate wonders if he made the right decision. And, Jylana is determined to home school her son, but her husband, Mike, says he'll miss opportunities and become socially stunted. What does Dr. Phil think? Talk about the show here.

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October 18, 2005, 12:37 pm PDT

I WAS THIS LITTLE GIRL!

Please! If this gets read by the mother or family of the little girl on this episode, or anyone in the same situation, PLEASE listen to me! i WAS this little girl! I was big. My family did the same thing to me. Now, at age 16, i am below my recommended weight. I am anorexic with bulimic tendencies, meaning I don't eat, or i restrict...alot, and when I HAVE to eat (around family, etc) i purge immediatly after! If you don't want this to be your daughter, STOP! She will find herself! I think theres nothing wrong with encourgaing healthy eating patterns. teach her to eat from all food groups, eat small meals often, minimize empty calories, but DO NOT put her on a DIET. Dr.. Phil is absolutly correct on this, and if you didn't believe it coming from that large older man, please believe me, because I WAS HER.
 
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October 18, 2005, 12:42 pm PDT

10/18 "I Am Right!"

The mother and sister probably have their own hang-ups about the granddaughter's mother, so they are probably subconsciously trying to tell her she needs to lose weight
 
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October 18, 2005, 12:43 pm PDT

Home-schooled children

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I am a proud homeschooling mom.  I have been homeschooling now for 8 years.  We had a problem in a Christian school.  My husband and I decided together, our son had to come out of this school during the Christmas break.  A friend of ours, also took her daughter out of this class, we started homeschooling them at the same time.  Our son will tell you, he does not want to go back to school.  Everyone wants to talk about the social aspect of homeschooling.  Well, I will tell you, I just got home at 9:30 after being gone since 12:30 today.  Our 11 year old son, had a social group from 1-4pm, then my husband brought our oldest son to me, and picked up our 11 yr old son.  Our 13 yr old son, then had his social group from 4:30 - 8:30 tonight. Our social groups are children playing all kinds of funny, made up games, ping-pong, and air hockey.  We have food for them as well, they also get time to just sit and talk.  Homeschool parents don't just stay home and do school.  We have support groups, that help plan field trips, social game days, Christmas parties, Valentine parties and so on.  There are so many things we do with our children, that you can not go to everything, because you would not get the school work done.  One thing that I love to hear about my 3 children, is HOW WELL THEY BEHAVE!  Homeschool children, for the most part, are very well behaved, respectful to other adults and children.   In our area,  business love for us to come for a field trip because of our children showing respect and being very well behaved.  

 I hope that Jylana will get all the information about homeschooling, so that she can really show her husband the great things about homeschooling their son.   He will only miss out on things, if they keep him home 24/7.  Some of the really great things about homeschooling;  you have more family time, your child/children are not at school for 7-8 hrs a day, then come home and have 2-3 hrs of homework to do before going to bed.  Another one, we get to take vacations ANYTIME we want!  October or November is a great time to go to Disney World, all the other children are in school, great weather, don't have to worry about long lines for rides.  You get to go to different places and learn about them first hand, not just from a book.  Instead of just reading about Washington D.C., Jamestown, Yellowstone Park, and the Grand Canyon take the kids there and learn about thoses places first hand.   

My husband tell people, when they ask about the social part of homeschooling, "There was a lot of social things, kids learning from kids, he could have done without!"   

  

And, Jylana is determined to home school her son, but her husband, Mike, says he'll miss opportunities and become socially stunted. 

 

 

If Mike wants to say that my children are socially stunted because they have not learned about sex,  how to tease other children, how to just be plain mean to others,  how smoking is cool and how to do drugs, then I am very happy they are socially stunted!!  Our oldest son only knows what his dad had told him about sex, not what other children think about it and do. 

  

I am a very proud homeschooling mom!! 

I have a very different take.  I teach college, and I've found that those who are home-schooled are more likely to be childishly inflexible and demanding.  I think it's because of the type of home-schooling, in that they always get to do it *their* way, never have to back off because for common courtesy or sharing power in groups, etc.  But I don't think they *have* to be that way.  I think that that now that home-schooling is including more group-oriented activities and more structured academic and play opportunities, it should improve the outcomes. 

  

I also think public school was different when the track system was used and kids were in with people who were at the same level in IQ and ability.  I think that trying to mainstream everyone together is misguided--people seek to make it fair, make others more tolerant, etc.  Instead, it makes it horribly boring and frustrating for smart kids and overwhelming for those with challenges.  The talented and gifted programs are useless--you either go to all T&G or none, and most of us have strengths and weaknesses. 

  

Right now we have an old model operating in the schools and teacher education hasn't caught up with what we know about learning.  things like Neurolinguistic programming and using timelines, and understanding learning styles and when it works to let kids find their own way or receive coaching or mentoring is just now in its infancy. 

  

Home-schooling also is in its infancy.  It's starting to grow and we're starting to understand it better.  I just say do it for the right reasons.  Don't use it to balkanize your children so they don't participate fully in life.  Don't do it so you can indoctrinate them without outside influence.  Good parenting means let them go in the water, but guide them. 

  

I think whatever parents do home-school, public school, or private school will succeed if it's done with love and commitment and with the best interest of the child's growth, development, and happiness.  If there are problems, parents and school officials need to take their heads out of the sand and confront them, experiment, and then implement things that seem to work more universally. 

 
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October 18, 2005, 12:46 pm PDT

Waiting for his soul mate

Dr.Phil, 

 I am 34 years of age and I have been with my one true love since I was 19 years of age. I did not even know his name. I was working at a small store in Parkersburg, Wv, he was jogging down the side walk. I just happen to look out the sliding glass door at that moment and something inside me just happen. I knew with out a shadow of a doubt he was who I was born to love. Now here we are 2 son's later. Happy. I do believe with all my heart.  That God did place me on this earth to love my man.  

  This is the first time I have ever disagreed with you. I love you're show Dr.Phil. I am reading your book. I am saving up for the workbook for family first. Take care. 

God Bless You and The Ones You Love, 

Faithful Fan, 

Robin 

 
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October 18, 2005, 12:47 pm PDT

Mother of overweight child

It is too bad that the mother of the overweight child does not understand that it does not have that much to do with being a good or bad mother.  What it has to do with is her not having propper nutrition information, and making bad mistakes when it comes to food.  The mother needs to understand that she is setting her daughter up for emotional and medical problems.  I hope that she will not take her mistakes personally and do what is right for her daughter... and for herself. 

 
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October 18, 2005, 12:56 pm PDT

Are we talking about Love or Sex?

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I know this will infuriate all the religious folk on this board, but I think this focus on sex is much too overblown.  I don't think that what we do with our fun bits defines who we are, how well we will perform as spouses or how "good" we are.  I define good as being kind, generous and tolerant.  Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others.  If you want to be proud of something, do something that you can be proud of. 

  

 I would be MUCH more interested in a man who had had other serious relationships than I would be in a man who had reached the age of 30 without ever loving another person. I wouldn't expect him to be capable of having a deep relationship or be intimate.  To be able to be truly intimate with a partner, there has to be a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance-farts and all.  You can't ever be truly intimate with a woman when focused on their external appearance. 

Speaking as one of the "religious folk" I have to say that I am not offended by your comment. If that was your intention I hate to disappoint you.  I am a Christian, who succombed to temptation as a teenager. My only regret is that even though I am older now, I feel that there is baggage between my husband and I. It, personally, makes me uncomfortable that I didn't have that to give my husband when we got married.  God intended it to be a gift that you are to give to your spouse, not just any man or woman that you meet at a bar. However, you seem to be getting Sex and Love confused...No one ever said that the 30 year old virgin ahd never "loved" anyone. Just that he hadn't had sex with anyone. You can certainly have a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance with someone whom you haven't had sex with...in fact I'm sure that you can, as you say, "fart" around someone you love and respect without actually having had sex with them. I am proud that he has been able to maintain his virginity...and I hope he is too.
 
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October 18, 2005, 1:01 pm PDT

I AM RIGHT

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        I  Believe it  should  work  Out !!! 

 

       Men  tend to be  right most  of  the  time,  but  sometimes  we  need   to  Give in.   If,  you   

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           a  better   reply,   be   honest... 

You are kidding, right?  Talk about knocking culture back a few thousand years!!!  People are people last I checked. 

  

 
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October 18, 2005, 1:03 pm PDT

MARK, DON'T COMPROMISE

MARK, 

  

I URGE YOU TO STAND YOUR GROUND.  THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAN YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT BELIEVE THE WAY YOU DO, AND THEY  THINK THAT THINK THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH THIS MIND SET.  YOUR COMING FORWARD WITH THIS WILL NOT ONLY HELP YOU STAND TO YOUR CONVICTIONS, BUT ALSO HELP THOSE THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE RIGHT ONE TO ALSO HOLD FIRM TO THEIR BELIEFS.  

  

I HAVE TOLD MY CHILDREN THAT I HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR THEIR MATES BEFORE I EVER EVEN THOUGHT OF HAVING CHILDREN AND KNOW THAT GOD HAS THAT SPECIAL ONE THAT HE CREATED JUST FOR THEM.  I REMIND THEM OF THIS OFTEN, AND EACH ONE CHOSE TO SIGN A COVENANT OF AGREEMENT TO GOD, THEMSELVES, US (PARENTS) AND THEIR FUTURE SPOUSES, TO REMAIN PURE UNTIL MARRIAGE.  

  

THE DESIRES OF YOUR HEART, ARE PUT THERE BY GOD, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD, THEN THOSE DREAMS AND DESIRES OF HIS GIFT TO YOU SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW HIS PLAN FOR YOUR LIFE.  HIS DESIRE FOR YOU IS TO HAVE THE VERY BEST HE HAS TO GIVE, AND HE HAS GIVEN YOU THOSE DREAMS FOR A SPECIAL PURPOSE. 

  

IT IS VERY HONORABLE, ADMIRABLE, AND HIGHLY FAVORED OF GOD, FOR YOU TO NOT DEFILE THE MARRIAGE BED, AND FOR YOU TO BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THE ONE THAT HE HAS FOR YOU. 

  

I DO AGREE WITH DOCTOR  PHIL ABOUT YOUR SPECIFICS COULD  BE OFF, BUT I WILL NOT SAY THIS IS THE CASE IF YOU DO INDEED HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD...BECAUSE IF YOU DO STUDY THE WORD OF GOD, HE SPECIFICALLY SAYS WE ARE HIS SHEEP AND KNOW HIS VOICE AND WILL FOLLOW NO OTHER.  THIS IS WHERE YOU AND YOU ALONE HAVE TO DECIDE IF THIS "SARA" IS OF GOD, OR IS JUST ONE YOU DESIRE BECAUSE OF HAVING MADE HER UP.  BUT KNOW THIS, YOUR MATE IS OUT THERE, AND WAS CREATED JUST FOR YOU AND YOU ALONE.  DON'T GIVE UP ON THAT AND STAND FIRM.  

  

I WANT TO SUGGEST THAT YOU READ ANOTHER LOVE STORY WHICH IS TRUE AND ALONG THESE LINES, AND BELIEVE THAT IT WILL HELP YOU TO STAY THE COURSE.  THERE ARE 2 BOOKS SPECIFICALLY, AND THEY ARE  WRITTEN BY ERIC AND LESLIE LUDY.  

 THE TITLES ARE, "WHEN GOD WRITES YOUR LOVE STORY", AND "WHEN DREAMS COME TRUE."   

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT HE IS AROUND YOUR AGE, AND SHE IS A BIT YOUNGER, BUT THERE STORY IS INSPIRING AND WILL HELP YOU TO SEE THAT YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH.   

  

I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT ON YOUR LOVE LETTER TO YOUR FUTURE WIFE.  CONTINUE TO DO THIS, BECAUSE WHEN GOD DOES BRING HER INTO YOUR LIFE, THESE LETTERS WILL BE CHERISHED BY HER FOR ALL ETERNITY.  (OF COURSE, DON'T PUT THE NAME AND DESCRIPTION UNLESS  YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE THAT GOD HAS GIVEN YOU THESE SPECIFICS.) 

  

SO MARK, HANG ON TO THE DREAM YOU HAVE OF YOUR WIFE.  SHE IS OUT THERE!  GOD BLESS YOU AND I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOUR MATE TO BE. 

  

 
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October 18, 2005, 1:07 pm PDT

I am sorry

Quote From: allylla

Please! If this gets read by the mother or family of the little girl on this episode, or anyone in the same situation, PLEASE listen to me! i WAS this little girl! I was big. My family did the same thing to me. Now, at age 16, i am below my recommended weight. I am anorexic with bulimic tendencies, meaning I don't eat, or i restrict...alot, and when I HAVE to eat (around family, etc) i purge immediatly after! If you don't want this to be your daughter, STOP! She will find herself! I think theres nothing wrong with encourgaing healthy eating patterns. teach her to eat from all food groups, eat small meals often, minimize empty calories, but DO NOT put her on a DIET. Dr.. Phil is absolutly correct on this, and if you didn't believe it coming from that large older man, please believe me, because I WAS HER.

I am sorry to hear what you are going thru...but I am glad someone our there agrees an eight year old should not be on a diet.  My daughter is on the heavy side she is eight...certain people think she should be on a diet....I didn't agree and I am glad to know others agree....I know I could be doing healthier habits for my daughter...we do try to keep junk food out of th house but that doesn't always happen.  My daughter is active of course when winter hits not as active as she is in the spring, summer or fall.  But I always worried how do you help your daughter who is heavy....I know portion control is what allot of people say and maybe if we do the portion control together it would help...(I am heavy also) my husband tried to bribe her saying if she lost so much weight by a certain date he would buy her this or that...I noticed her worry about what she ate how much etc....she would say mom they had a cookie at school for lunch can I have one....I told her yes that one cookie is okay....I have told her to eat what the school lunch provides....they are healthily for you...she has been weighing herself once a week and she hasn't gained but hasn't lost and she gets upset...I try to get her to forget about dad's bet.  Should my daughter and I do portion control together?  Does that do harm?  I did weight watchers at one time and I know portion control long with exercise does work you just have to stick with it...but I don't want to do harm mentally either.   

Melissa 

 
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October 18, 2005, 1:08 pm PDT

Oh brother.........

For the last couple and the homeschooling decision.......... As a pre-school teacher of 10 years I just have to say.......... If I had a dollar for every time I heard  "My child is so advanced..." I'd be rich.  I laughed that no teacher would be able to deal with his "advancness".   And about the poor little 8 year old girl: It is sad that parents don't see their children gaining weight.  I am thin and have 2 thin children and it is because we just don't eat garbage.  It appears overweight parents overfeed their children.  It's not fair to the kids. Dr Phil, God bless you for having to deal with people who really just don't get it. 

 
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