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Topic : 12/26 "I Am Right!"

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Created on : Friday, October 14, 2005, 03:44:44 pm
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(Original Airdate: 10/18/05) Would you rather be right or would you rather be happy? Stacey says she and her husband, Eddie, made a plan when they got married -- and it didn't have anything to do with Eddie's current goal of becoming an ultimate fighting champion.  Now she's giving him an ultimatum: "Give up the dream or give up me!“ Then, an entire family faces off against a mother in a debate about the weight of her 8-year-old daughter. Plus, a 30-year-old virgin saving himself for his soul mate wonders if he made the right decision. And, Jylana is determined to home school her son, but her husband, Mike, says he'll miss opportunities and become socially stunted. What does Dr. Phil think? Talk about the show here.

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October 18, 2005, 3:46 pm PDT

10/18 "I Am Right!"

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Speaking as one of the "religious folk" I have to say that I am not offended by your comment. If that was your intention I hate to disappoint you.  I am a Christian, who succombed to temptation as a teenager. My only regret is that even though I am older now, I feel that there is baggage between my husband and I. It, personally, makes me uncomfortable that I didn't have that to give my husband when we got married.  God intended it to be a gift that you are to give to your spouse, not just any man or woman that you meet at a bar. However, you seem to be getting Sex and Love confused...No one ever said that the 30 year old virgin ahd never "loved" anyone. Just that he hadn't had sex with anyone. You can certainly have a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance with someone whom you haven't had sex with...in fact I'm sure that you can, as you say, "fart" around someone you love and respect without actually having had sex with them. I am proud that he has been able to maintain his virginity...and I hope he is too.
I'm not confused about love and sex.  In his conversation with Dr Phil, Mark said he dated 37 women a year and once he met them, he just told them that they weren't "her".  I understand that the presentation of the show isn't always accurate, but he sure sounded to me like he had never loved a woman.
 
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October 18, 2005, 3:46 pm PDT

virginity, a turn off

 I am a 21 year old virgin and definetely believe it is the right thing to wait.  However, out in the world it isn't a popular desicion and most often gets someone, myself included, labeled.  I also think that some people who are older virgins may not have chosen this for themselves.  Even if I had not chosen to wait, there is nothing that has ever happened to me that would have ever brought me to having sex.   Some people, myself included, may just not have a "soul mate" or whatever you want to call the person.  As much as we may like it or not.
 
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October 18, 2005, 3:53 pm PDT

more than homeschooling is the issue

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I'm sorry your husband had such a bad experience.   However, things are a lot different these days.  There are homeschool groups and classes and co-ops for these kids to grow up in.  Most children who are homeschooled very rarely stay home it seems.   We go to gym classes, sports classes, swim lessons, dance lessons, etc.  There will be a LOT of kids they will meet when they are older that they 'went to school with'.      I had a great experience in school as well but I homeschool my kids.   They bullying, the teasing, the large classrooms and poor overworked teachers who seem to go on strike every couple years just aren't worth it.  My kids have chosen to be home and they continue to choose to stay home.   

  

Jeannie 

Anything situation can be unhealthy if the parents are unhealthy.   It's hard to believe that it was merely the fact of him being homeschooled that was the problem.  there must be something else he resents or regrets.  Some style of parenting his parents had throughout his childhood and instead of facing that, he targets another aspect of his life to blame.   
 
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October 18, 2005, 3:54 pm PDT

Virginity

I applaude today's guest who chose to stay a virgin until he has found the right person.   

I think this is a great virtue in today's society and there is so much emphasis put into sex. 

Congratulations to you sir and good luck with your search for that one! 

 
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October 18, 2005, 3:56 pm PDT

30 year old virgin

Mark, we are so impressed with you. Keep to what you believe! My wife and I were both 30 year old virgins when we got married. We never settled for less than we hoped for in a mate, and we waited for what God had for us. We've been married five years and it has been great! Looking back, we are so glad we waited.  

  

Before 1960 being a virgin before you were married was the norm no matter how old you were. Now one is considered abnormal or a freak if he waits for marriage to have sex. Hold on to what you know is true, no matter what anyone lese says. 

 
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October 18, 2005, 3:57 pm PDT

Public Schooling

I am currently 24yoa and a recently graduated RN from a communty college program.  I have always been publicly educated and my mother is a public educator.  I believe our educators 

do the best they can with what they have in educating our children.  I do not believe I have been 

failed or could have turned out "better" if in private/home school or the best of colleges.   

I think children should have the opportunity to learn, grow and fraternize in a diverse setting. 

 

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October 18, 2005, 3:58 pm PDT

10/18 "I Am Right!"

Quote From: atlswan

You're certainly entitled to feel the way you do. It doesn't infuriate me.  

  

I remained a virgin partially for religious reasons but  there were other motivating factors. I had a healthy fear of STDs, which can do great damage. And I do think my sexual history defines part of who I am, although I don't think it makes me better than anyone else. 

  

"Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others. " 

  

That may be so. But there are plenty of non-virgins who are non-religious that are equally mean, selfish and intolerant. That's a rather wide brush to paint religious folks with.  

  

I didn't mean to paint religious people as anything.  I was just responding to this idea being posted about here that someone is "great" simply because he hasn't had sex.  Virginity really doesn't register as an important issue in whether a person is good or not to me.  I am much more interested in their open heart than their closed pants. 

  

I was trying to point out that refraining from sex doesn't make up for other problems, nor does having sex negate positive attributes.  Mark frankly struck me as unbalanced.  Maybe I am just culturally distant as a Canadian from this formal puritan type of spirituality. 

 
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October 18, 2005, 3:58 pm PDT

Home Schooling

In my state, home schoolers participate in extra-curricular activities & sports in the public school system.
 
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October 18, 2005, 4:01 pm PDT

This is true

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Anything situation can be unhealthy if the parents are unhealthy.   It's hard to believe that it was merely the fact of him being homeschooled that was the problem.  there must be something else he resents or regrets.  Some style of parenting his parents had throughout his childhood and instead of facing that, he targets another aspect of his life to blame.   

We all look back on our childhood and wonder what we can do better for our kids then our parents did for us.   I'm just sad that he didn't have a good time with homeschooling.  However, he was homeschooled before there was a lot available for homeschoolers. 

  

Jeannie 

 
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October 18, 2005, 4:02 pm PDT

10/18 "I Am Right!"

Quote From: catia_

I think many of the points made are valid but I think there is one important issue that has not been discussed; the quality of teaching the mother can provide.  I am surprised that Dr. Phil didn't mention this as he always says teachers are so hardworking but are underpaid.  In order to become a teacher you not only have to have an undergraduate degree but you also have to complete one year of teacher's college.  In this one year prospective teachers learn all the skills need ed in order to run there class rooms in addition to getting course outlines to follow.  Home  

schooling is not only about protecting your children and spending time with them but the quality of education should also be considered.   

The quality of education is why I decided to homeschool my 4 children.   My children are academically advanced because I put forth the effort.  I love education and my children.  Who better could teach them? 

 
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