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Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

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Created on : Friday, October 14, 2005, 03:56:41 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/19/05) Sexual orientation used to be something kept hidden from family and co-workers, but now more and more people are "coming out" and finding acceptance. Anjela says her mother and sister don't support her sexual orientation, and feel she can't be Christian and gay at the same time. Can they reconcile this touchy issue? Then, two men debate whether a person can go from gay to straight, and parents of a 4-year-old boy fear their son's desire to play with dolls and wear heels means he'll grow up to be gay. Are they overreacting to his wishes to be a princess instead of a prince? Talk about gender and gay issues here.


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October 19, 2005, 1:55 pm PDT

just don't act on it

As a faithful Catholic I belive firmly in "hate the sin love the sinner" that said, the Catholic church does not have a problem with a person being "gay" "lesbian" but when that person acts on it sexually it is considered a mortal sin. I know gay and lesbian people who are choosing to live a celibate life without ever engaging in any form of sexual act, is it a difficult life? Yes, but we are talking about your mortal soul and in the long run this life is nothing compared to our life in Heaven, do you want to be in Heaven or Hell? God has made it very clear that it is not ok to have sex with the same sex, if God wanted it that way there would be no aids, what type of God would allow that? A man and a woman were made just right to come together in marriage and have children, that is from God, if God wanted same sexes together they would be able to have children together and they would not be able to give aids to eachother. 

I think that we need to pray for gays and lesbians that God will give them the strength to live celibate lives and not act on their sexual needs, there is way more to life than sex. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 1:57 pm PDT

Thanx!

Quote From: dchdb1

My uncle got married and fathered 2 children to live up to societys picture of how he should be.  He was miserable!!!  He finally came out, he and my aunt got divorced and remained the best of friends.  He met his soul mate and I never show him happier.  I wholeheartedly agree with "You are who you are, so live and love it"!!

Well thanx! 

I figure you only have one life to live....so live it up! 

Thanx for replying! 

 
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October 19, 2005, 1:57 pm PDT

BE gay

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Dr. Phil, 

As the mother of a gay son, I feel my son is still my son, we love him, and God loves him, that is all that matters.  If the rest of society has a problem with it, that is their problem.  I feel gays are misunderstood.  My son has openly brought home his mates, most of them we did not like to their tempers and anger management issues.  Well, he is with another mate right now, and I love him like a son.  I will admit at first it is a very hard thing to deal with, but I understand that this is not a choice.   As for the lesbian woman and her sister on your show, the mother and sister are not trying to understand where this woman is coming from.  I understand the mother and sister are hurting, but the woman is hurting also.   Some of the sweetest people I have met are gay, they are the same as anyone else, their sexual preferences are just different.  I feel there need to be more shows about this subject, you can not possibly cover everything on this subject in one show.  Thank you Dr. Phil for talking about this subject. 

God made people so they can be who they want to be. 

There are many more important issues in this world, then to worry about who people love,and if there gay or not.WHO CARES..God had the option to make us,and he did,If he wanted to stop people from being gay,he could have.Were all normal people,Isn't that what everybody usually says.Its like saying black and white people are different,there not.So why are gays and straights.As long as there happy,then why should anyone care.Im 18 years old and im straight. so its not like im gay im just saying what i really feel.WEll im just going to say this.It saves more men for the woman, if your lesibian.And it saves more woman for the men if your gay.Nobody should complain about people being who they are. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 1:58 pm PDT

I don't agree

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there is a saying i always try to live by....  Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin.   Homosexuality is a sin.  just as stealing and lying and murdering.  i'm am not judging anybody. God knows i'm in no possition to cast the first stone or any stone for that matter.  the Bible has NOT changed.  Society has.  instead of confessing our sins and repenting for them (repent means changing our ways) society has made it so we are accepting the worldly ways.  Read the Bible. God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. 
       I happen to think that there is  nothing wrong with homosexual people.  It may say that being gay is wrong in the Bible, but we have to realize that even if it is ,"Wrong" (I really don't think that it is at this point in my life) we still have to love, and treat all peoples with kindness and respect!  Even if we never say and unkind thing we still can think it.  I hope that one day America will move on and come to totally accept the fact that people can be homosexual. 
 
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October 19, 2005, 2:00 pm PDT

I am sad

I am sad bc I see alot of posts from people talking about how homosexuality is a sin and all this stuff. Not everyone believes in the bible, not everyone is christian, catholic, baptist or whatever... 

Once apon a time marrying a black man was a "sin" in society's eyes. It was illegal state to state. Then finally they legalized it. Now when you compare it too homosexuality they say "you can't help what color you are but you can help who you are attracted too". Talk to my great grand father...who was treated as badly as gay people are today just because he was black. He will tell you differently. So why would you want to bash someone just because of who they love?  

  

God says "who with out sin cast the first stone" and "don't judge unless you want to be judge unless you want to be judge".... 

 
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October 19, 2005, 2:00 pm PDT

I agree

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Um....the woman didnt just TURN gay after 15 years, she always was gay. Gay people want so badly just to live a "normal" lifestyle and she thought that getting married and having "well adjusted" (why wouldnt they be?) kids would help her. But in the end, she still wasnt fullfilled and she perhaps was sick of living a lie. Understand? You would be suprised of how many millions of people out there are married to the opposite sex and are still secretly gay. Society is so unaccepting of gays and thats probably why it took this particular woman so long to "come out". Hope this answers your question.
I SO agree with you. My dad is gay, but my parents were married for 18 years...
 
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October 19, 2005, 2:02 pm PDT

so what if they are gay?Thaey are alive

maybe im bitter because I just lost my 36 yr old brother 5 days ago, but these parents judging and condemning their kids ought to realize how good they have it, there kids are alive, I used to be mad at my brother for having bipolar disorder because I did not understand it. These parents are doing the same thing about their childrens lifestyle choice, life is too short to squabble about these little things, my point is these parents need to be happy that their kids are alive and healthy, if i could have an alive gay brother i would be much happier, so people love your kids no matter who they are.
 

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October 19, 2005, 2:03 pm PDT

The show

Well, I just finished watching the show and I have these comments: 

  

First, I'm afraid that this was not a case of a gay's family not accepting them. I have seen that, and it is tragic. This is a case of a woman who has lost her entire identity outside of being gay. Come on, there's nothing else to her life? I shudder to think that I could define myself so completely by one thing. I'm a wife, I will soon be a mother, I write science fiction and fantasy, I love cats, I enjoy playing all manner of games....I could go on but hopefully this makes my point. I have no problems with homosexuality whatsoever, but the problems I saw with the first woman had little or nothing to do with her sexual orientation and much, much more to do with obstinence, sibling rivalry, and possibly insecurity. 

  

As to the second set, the stand-off between gays being able to change and not...What ever happened to shades of gray? Isn't it possible that some people who believe they are gay are having other issues and are not really that way deep inside? I imagine it's a minority, actually, but why not? On the other hand, it seems clear to me that these ex-gay ministries seek to get people to stop living a gay lifestyle and having gay encounters rather than caring about what's underneath. I would hesitate in marrying someone who came out of one of these ministries "reformed." I've known a couple of people who found out that their partner was gay after many years...what an emotional bombshell. Repeat something often enough and you can believe just about anything, but thta doesn't make it true. 

  

  

 
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October 19, 2005, 2:03 pm PDT

maybe I missed something in church,

But didn't Jesus die for our sins? 

  

Isn't that why we take communion?  

  

Aren't we taught to love EVERYONE? 

  

Aren't we told the only Judge is God? 

  

People who keep saying it is a sin to be gay, tell me you live a sinfree life? YOu have never once broken a commandment of God or a law? Breaking any type of law should be viewed as a sin. So you don't speed? You stop and pick up that piece of paper that falls from your purse while digging your keys out?  

  

I think we need to be respectful of ALL people and things around us and let our God be God. Quit judging people.   

  

JMO 

  

  

 
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October 19, 2005, 2:04 pm PDT

Blessings

The following is a quote from the message board, and my heart goes out to you, because I can tell you are flustered by this. I am sorry for those in your family who have experienced pain due to their sexual orientation. Let me say, though, that you have the bible all wrong. First of all, it NEVER encourages others to not accept someone for who and what they are. Acceptance and brokenness are completely different things. I am BROKEN for your family memebers, because they have been deceived into thinking that they are doomed to be the way they are. I ACCEPT them because they are beautiful creatures made by the one true God, reguardless of who they are. Secondly, let me say the Bible is not a fiction book. There has been too much historical evidence proving that it is legitimate for me to even argue it with you. Want to know more? Before you discount the bible, pick it up and read it. A good book if you want FACTUAL proof is "A Case for Faith." You are right about God, He is all loving, all forgiving, but you have to ASK for it in order to receive it. And once you are in that relationship, nothing is off limits to Him, even sexual orientation. "Quote From: dchdb1Homosexuality is hereditary and not a choice. In my family alone, I have had a gay grandfather, uncle, niece and cousin. Due to the narrow mindedness and prejudice of others, both my niece and uncle tried to kill themselves before finally coming out and accepting who and what they are. I have many friends who are gay also and to be honest, I would rather spend time with them than my straight friends. They are more open minded, free thinking, intelligent and accepting. "The Bible" is the biggest work of fiction ever written and to site it as a reason for not accepting someone for who and what they are is a paradox. If there were a god and he/she were all forgiving, all loving than how can one justify siting their "word" as a reason to turn away from a person simply due to their sexual preference, which, I might add, is no ones business but their own. "
 
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