Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

God created us all but there are some do's and dont's just as you are a parent, or if you are someone of authority there are rules and laws that must be followed rather you like them or not. As God who sent his son Jesus to die for our sins. if a person believe there is a God they should already know, that homosexuality, the (action/ behavior) is a sin According to Romans  1:24 -28 but look especially at verse 27 it clearly states God desire for his children (you). Yes your effections are real as gay person, but to let you know they are not of the Father. sin is present he clearly states in the holy bible we were born into sin and created in sin. Sin against nature is the lust of our flesh and the reason a gay person struggle at first with his or her affection is because God put his knowledge in us to know right from wrong look at Romans 1: 19-20. So finally we give in to our own desires then he says in Romans 1:28 He allows you to beleive what you want to believe. And that is what homosexuals call coming out, they have made up their minds to let the world know they are gay. God is no longer holding you back. Persons who believe in God have turned the truth into a lie according to the Holy Bible Romans 1:25 meaning that homosexuality is receive by God. He love all his creation but he has the finally authority if you truly believe in Him. If you are in a church that says other wise different from the Bible they are deceiving and sending your soul into damnation. I am clearly saying that God hate all our sins but loves us and if we seek him and ask Him of His truth He will give it to you. We all have  free will but there is a price if we don't follow God will we all have being gought with a price and that is through His son. And satan the devil will continue to decieve you satan will put individuals in your life that will Destroy you because he don't love you. hell is real that is also in the bible. Finally find a good wholesome church or ask God to led you to one that will love on you and give you God's Holy word, trust me you want be condemn but be set free and truth and revelation will come out and be reveal to you.

I would like to criticize Dr. Phil for saying that being queer is not who Anjela. When you are gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgendered in a heterosexist world (in other words, a world that assumes everyone is heterosexual)...it is necessary to consider this oppression as part of your identity. You cannot assume that your experience as a heterosexual can help you to understand the experience of other heterosexuals, let alone people who are oppressed by society because of their sexual orientation.

Thank you so much for finally discussing the issue of homosexuality/ sexual orientation. I am a 23 yr old professional student and I have struggled for several years with my sexuality. I have recently accepted that I'm gay . Now I have to deal with the hardship of telling my very conservative family and hope they accept me for who I am. I would love to hear more information/ advice on "coming out".

 Does sodomite exclusively mean homosexual or does it mean someone who engages in anal sex?

I am so relieved to see some love and tolerant Catholics on the boards... I live 4 miles from the University of Notre Dame and I am constantly bombarded with Catholic rhetoric preaching how homosexuality is an abomination of God and how I don't deserve the same rights as my straight neighbors.  There is also an Archbishop constantly encouraging people to stop the homosexual epidemic taking over our culture.  These men of the Catholic Church have been up to their eyes in the priest-sex scandal, yet they continue to preach as if they have a right to judge. 

  

Strong Catholics is a refreshing sight to me at a time when I really need it.  It is so frustrating to me to know that someone could fire me, evict me, or beat me down for being gay and have it make no difference under the law in our county... in large part due to the opposition of these Catholic leaders pressuring our County Council members.  I applaud any Catholic willing to stand up and oppose the hate being preached in the name of their God.  Finally... a small glimpse of hope!  Thank you. 

My 5 year old son is putting on his sister's lipstick right now.

I do truly believe that it is a sin in the eyes of God - being gay that is...   

Anyone can pick up a bible and read that being a homosexual is a sin in the eyes of God.  Some say they can pray and nothing happens.  Are they a born against, blood bought Christian?  If they are - then keep praying.  God has three responses, Yes, No and Wait.  Just because something does not happen when and how you want it to does not mean that God is not listening.  My question is this:  (if you are praying to God) ARE YOU LISTENING to God?  That is the larger question.  God does not make any of us gay, he did give man (woman) FREE WILL.  And this is where so many get confused.  We have free will and CHOOSE to let the devil take ahold of our hearts.   

I have gay friends.  I do not judge them, but I do not choose to hear all aspects of their lives.  I do not share my sex life with my husband with them and I expect the same respect.  I had a gay friend that chose to NOT be a part of a marriage ceremony because the government would not condone her marriage to a woman.  I do not love her as a friend any less, I just pray for her lost soul.   

Leviticus 20:13 

Romans 1:18-32 

1 Corinthians  6:9-11 

I think it is sad that society wants out youth to think it is okay to make this choice 

May God bless you all 

M G 

I am always amazed as responses to homosexual lifestyles.  I shouldn't be...but I guess I always hope that people will open up their minds...even a little. 

  

I've been reading the numerous pages of responses to the original post.   WOW!  Talk about emotions!   

  

First of all I'd like to respond to the person who posted about using a Hebrew Old Testament.  Obviously, for those of us who study...you are referring to a Hebrew edition of the Christian Bible as Jews do not have an Old Testament.  So, don't go there.   

  

Another point I'd like to make is about all the quoting going on.  My goodness!  Anyone can quote.  It's a matter of knowing what you quote.  For example, I'm going to quote Luke 14:26 from the NIV: 

  

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." 

  

Hmmmm makes you wonder...   So, please don't quote the Bible as your excuse to condemn gays and lesbians., people who drink alcohol, etc.  There will always be hate in this world and it's been around before the Bible.  The Bible just gives some an excuse. 

  

In freethinking love, 

  

  

I did a Yahoo.com search on the "priest,"  David Kyle Foster, who was on today's show; and found that he has a so-called "ex-gay" testimony on Exodus International's website at http://www.exodus-international.org/testimonials_left_homosexuality_11.shtml  

  

Dr. Phil does have a link ot Foster's own website, too. After reading Foster's testimony, I found that what I got from Foster talking today backed up what I thought was true. Foster was NEVER homosexual in the first place. Because he did not get the right kind of natural affection from his own father who was a pastor, Foster looked for love and acceptance from other men. One of the many sins listed in Romans Chapter One is the sin of "being without natural affection."  

  

Exodus International thrives on the testimonies of those who grew up in abnormal home-life situations where the Bible-thumpers' stereo-typical ideas are promoted.  

  

Many of those in charge of Exodus International associated ministries are people who have always been exclusively heterosexual in their sexual orientation. Bob Davies, the now retired CEO of Exodus International claimed to be a homosexual because in early puberty he was turned on sexually by some pictures of naked men. In his sort-of biography, "Overcoming Homosexuality," Davies mentions that in a chapter about his early years; but, when he discusses himself during his 20s, he states that he had an addiction to heterosexual pornography.  And that addiction started about the same time that he saw the naked men, except in this case it was naked women. Very interesting that being turned on by pictures of naked men made him a homosexual; but, the naked women did not make him a heterosexual nor a bisexual. 

  

The truth about Davies is that he never experienced a physiological sexual attraction toward another live human male in all of his life. But, he did married a woman with whom he fell in love (sexual attraction there of course) when he was a young adult and was still married to her when he retired. Davies was the CEO when John Paulk was caught in that gay bar in September 2000 as mentioned on the TV show today. The still-gay Christian man, Justin, did not mention Paulk on the show nor the actual date but that was to whom he was referring. John Paulk was the President of the Exodus Board, while Davis was running the organization; also, Paulk was the "Human Sexuality Expert" for PhD James Dobson's Focus On the Family at that time also.  

  

Paulk had tried to claim that his marrying an ex-lesbian made him a heterosexual. In fact, Paulk and his wife were in a lot of Newspaper ads promoting "PFOX" and the claim that homosexuals could change many months before that. PFOX - meaning Parents and Friends Of eX-gays- was supposedly created by those who are against PFLAG - Parents, Family/Friends of Lesbians And Gays." I used to be a PFLAG member. 

God also made us all in his image.  Good for you.  I am glad that you are now happy.