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Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

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Created on : Friday, October 14, 2005, 03:56:41 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/19/05) Sexual orientation used to be something kept hidden from family and co-workers, but now more and more people are "coming out" and finding acceptance. Anjela says her mother and sister don't support her sexual orientation, and feel she can't be Christian and gay at the same time. Can they reconcile this touchy issue? Then, two men debate whether a person can go from gay to straight, and parents of a 4-year-old boy fear their son's desire to play with dolls and wear heels means he'll grow up to be gay. Are they overreacting to his wishes to be a princess instead of a prince? Talk about gender and gay issues here.


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October 19, 2005, 7:41 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

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yah ok fine with me i mean im 14 and i no 4 a fact that i am "bisexual" i might hot be gay exactly but i kinda no what it feels like! we kinda ppl dont like to be mis treted or ditched and abandoned just cuz were different though im not sayin all do! ill attmit i dont go to church but i belive that u r not "made" gay by others and it NOT a choise u make it is not up to u if ur gay ur gay n theres nothing u or anyone else can do about it cuz it will always be there!! 

  

PEACE OUT!!! 

  

NEPOLEAN DINAMITE ROX 

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 You're too young to be having sex right now.  Pray and wait. 

How do you know for a 'fact' you are bisexual?

I agree about Napoleon Dynamite!



 
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October 19, 2005, 7:41 pm PDT

That is great

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 1)  I think it was natural.
2)   I don't think I decided.  I think it was natural.  Besides, I hadn't heard of 'gay' until I was about 11 and never really considered it for myself.
3)  No
4)No  lol.
5) No.  I'm quite happily married.
6) Yes.  Yes.  They're fine with it.
7) I'm not flaunting anything.
8) I don't think we do.  I think we'd all be more contented if everyone kept their sex lives to themselves and then we wouldn't have to come and defend God's opinion on the matter.
9) I personally don't want to seduce anyone.  I just want to make sure that people know what God's word says on the matter. 
10) I'd like to see some stats on that. From the Gallop Poll or another recognized organization.   I don't know why it matters anyway.

11)  It's about unselfishness and learning about the other person because you care about them.  It's about giving and learning and communication.  As for what I do in my own marital bed, I'd rather not go into details, but go to a human anatomy site and see what goes where and that will give you an idea.
12)  Because we are in the last days.  People don't care about God's laws anymore and they give up to easy, often for selfish reasons. 
13) The only way to avoid all std's is to as God has wanted all along. Stay away from sex until you're married and stick with that person for life.  Now, this would have the lowest incidence of stds.
14) Are you bisexual?  Do sexual relations define your wholeness somehow?  I feel badly for you if you feel this way.
15) That is another commonly heard untruth.  The entire population of the world could stand within the city limits of Jacksonville florida.
16) Yes.  I already do lean that way so I wouldn't worry about it much.


Great response...... 

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:41 pm PDT

intersting

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I believe in reincarnation and I have a theory about the why of being gay and the mystery of crib death. 

  

Now bare with me------------- 

  

In reincarnaiton I believe that as we come and go (live and die) from one reincarnation to the next that we change gender from male to female and female to male at different times. No we don't go from one animal to another we stay human.. We don't change gender every incarnation as we can be female for 3 straight and male for the next 4 incarnations or back and forth as the need arises. Every incarnation needs to be at least 107 years apart but we have over population the earth so sometimes we "come back" too soon. when that happenes we get a person (soul) that hasn't had time to get their gender correct before they are "born" into their next incarnation, hence a female mind with a male body and visa versa. It's really quite simple. 

  

Crib death, I believe, happenes when the soul of the baby has "come back"  way too soon. The soul isn't mature enough to stay hense nature takes over and allows crib death. There wasn't enought time to have an illness or accident take the baby. 

  

In my opinion it is the only explanation for both incidents. 

  

Have a good day! 

  

  

  

  

  

  

Interesting take on crib death. I never thought of it like that. 

  

Tammy 

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:43 pm PDT

why bring religion into everything

why does religion have to play such a large part in this topic. If there is a God do you really think he is so concerned about 2 women sleeping together?  Perhaps if people were less worried about other peoples' private lives and more concerned about ways to make this world a better place, clean air, food for everyone, jobs, the homeless etc...  people would be happier.  

If you aren't gay then you don't know if it is a choice or not! I believe people are born either straight or gay, and whatever you are is cool with me!  

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:44 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

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I can't believe that no one else has brought up the concern that an "ex-gay" man is now a priest.  The catholic church is the perfect place for homosexual men to lurk around pretending to be celibate when in fact they are molesting young alter boys behind closed doors. 

PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE PEDOPHILIA WITH HOMOSXUALITY. 

  

Pedophilia is about abuse and controll of a child. Akin to rape. It is not about the sex. It is about controll and abuse. 

  

Homosexuality is not about controll or abuse. It is about consensual sex between two people of the same sex. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:50 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: oet_gaol

It might be my Dutch view but I'm thinking that this whole discussing is nonsense. Who cares if their son or daughter is gay he or she will be just as happy as any straight person. And even if you want your son/daughter to be straight you shouldn't seek "help." You wouldn't seek help if he or she wanted to become a mecanic while you want him/her to be docter? (though I'm not suggesting being gay/bisexual is a choice) 

  

If your son or daughter tells you he/she is gay let het celebrate that and join in yourself aswell because they have found their true identity. 

  

And what sicko ever said every gay person schould have a trauma? I know of enough gay's which dont have a trauma. 

  

And another thing why do you supress gay's with things liken no gay marrige and religion? WHAT ARE YOU ALL AFRAID OF? 

  

Besides why do you hide behind religion to condem gay's? Religion can change to match the current world, because if religion was a static thing how come that we have hunderds if not thousends of religions across the globe? 

  

Why don't you just accept gay's the way they are? 

I agree being healthy and happy is key, and there is just too much concern with what people do in private. I'm just so glad that here in Canada we allow and accept gay marrages. It doesn't matter what you do in the privacy of your 'bedroom'. 

More people need to understand gays have relationships, children and all the things hetro's do and they don't do it any differently.Homophobes just need to open thier minds educate themselves to things other than the only things they know. You don't have to like it but you should be able to except all for thier input to society. 

It's ultimately who you are in your actions with others and not what you do in your private spaces. 

A little humanity and tolerance people and a few less excuses and less hidding behind your beliefs. 

you hit this nail right on it's head. this hetro thanks you for your view and your tolerance of others. Thats what it has to be to keep everyone valid. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:51 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

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why does religion have to play such a large part in this topic. If there is a God do you really think he is so concerned about 2 women sleeping together?  Perhaps if people were less worried about other peoples' private lives and more concerned about ways to make this world a better place, clean air, food for everyone, jobs, the homeless etc...  people would be happier.  

If you aren't gay then you don't know if it is a choice or not! I believe people are born either straight or gay, and whatever you are is cool with me!  

The reason why people are posting based on religion is because it was mentioned as part of the show.  The show set the platform for religion to be used.  There was even a family on the show that were Christians.  That is why religion is coming into the mix. 

  

God is concerned about homosexuality, if He wasn't he would not have mentioned it in the bible along with all the other sins (gluttony, murder, fornication, lying).  We are given a list of commandments to live by and in order to be living a life according to the will of God we must live by these commandments. 

  

Also, one more thing, when you go on National television to talk about your personal business, you give everyone the right to have an opinion about it.  Because I don't care what the topic is, someone is going to have an opinion about it and it may not neccesarily line up with yours. 

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:53 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: oet_gaol

1 Yes they don't directly state they hate gay's that is the problem they state it via a detour "religion" because as I said,  somewhere it also says love thy neigbour and the bible states so much more rules yet only some are picked up on depending which one you need for you're cause. 

  

Then I wan't to acknowledge if it is true that the translations are indeed correct but that doesn't take away the fact that they where written down by human hands. Many stories are also older then christianity and even judaïsm and many stories are written down centuries later then they are thought of or happened. I ask you pick one hunderd people and let them form a line, say a small sentence in the first one's ear wait 'till it reaches the end of the line and see wich sentence comes out. or another one start some gossip a little thing now wait some time and see what that gossip has grown into it might have started out as holding hands and ends up having had sex. 

  

And no I don't no where state that gay's are born gay but in there development in puberty they just aquire the taste for the same sex, I know of many gays who have had girlfriends. what I dispute is that they had a choiche. 

  

You talk about the reconcilliation of sin yes it can be done and in the middle ages it was quite profitable aswell where you could buy of murder provided you had the money. 

  

You qoute Hitler "If you tell a lie, loud enough and long enough, the people will believe it" Well not suggesting jesus has anything in common with hitler but he was loud, twelve oppostels and a whole bunch of followers that is loud enough to spread a lie (not stating he did, just saying he could have) 

  

And how come that if anyone says today he is the son of god that you will riddicule him and put him away in an institution yet you all go to church to see someone who claimed to be the son of god. And don't say anything about the miracles here applies the gossip story I told earlier. 

  

And no I don't believe in god and I have thought about it a long time and I do not condem anyone who does believe in a god or 20 gods for that matter. I just hate the way Religion is misused for Apartheit, suppression, war and all that, Religion was ment to make for a good relation with god, the after life and your inner self yet it is now being used to feul war and hate (wether against another religion or gays or blacks or whatever.) 

 Well guess what.  Despite what you may think we don't hate gay people at all.  I don't know how to convince you of that. 

I'll state it again.  Who am I to say that homosexuality is right, when God makes it pretty clear that it is not right? 

I would love to condone the lifestyle and the people but I didn't make the rules.  God made them and I trust Him and trust that He know better.

Yes, human hands wrote the Bible.  God gave them the words and they wrote.  The stories aren't older than Judaism because the first writer was Jewish.  You're right about the telephone game.  Word of mouth is never going to be accurate.  However, the Jews wrote the words down and guarded the scriptures with extreme care.  They copied them meticulously and we have archaeology, including the dead sea scrolls to prove that they couldn't be more accurate. 

About Jesus and the apostles and what they wrote.  Only you can decide whether or not what they wrote was truth or lies.  Keep in mind they all were martyred for their beliefs.  Also keep in mind, before Jesus ressurrection, they were regular men with many doubts.  After the ressurrection, they became witnesses that regularly went to jail, knowing their fate would eventually would be death.  So you have to decide.  Was Jesus the greatest liar that ever lived, or was He the son of God?

Now we all know that Hitler spewed out lies and brainwashed a nation.  An entire nation CAN be brainwashed .  Do you agree?

I would not believe someone who said they were the son of God, (like David Koresh) because God only sent one son.  Before his arrival, there were hundreds of prophesies surrounding this event.  People knew where he would be born and the 70 year span in history when it would happen.  God certainly never fortold of another 'son' of God coming.

I would urge you not to just 'think' about God. Read the book.  Talk to Him.  Be honest with Him about everything.

 
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October 19, 2005, 7:54 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: mommyjenna

 Dr Laura is Jewish.  She doesn' t follow the New Testament. 


Dr Laura didn't write the letter, it was written to her.
 
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October 19, 2005, 7:57 pm PDT

choice?

 If you all think it's a choice then please tell us when did you choose?  Because if you claim that it is a choice then straight people must have made the choice too!
 
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