Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Who are all the christians to decide gays should change thier ways. God created these people and it seems very presumptuous of you all to think it's your call to decide his decision for thier creation was a sin! 

I am confused because I want to know what being straight, gay, or bi-sexual has to do with the Bible.  Instead of arguing over what the bible does and does not say, we should be looking at each other, whatever our orientation, or their's may be as an equal.   

I, myself am straight, but I have close friends who are gay, and to judge someone just because of their orientation and have not taken the time to get the know the rest of him or her, we may be bypassing a wonderful friendship because he or she is sexually attracted to the same sex.  Personally, when I meet someone I want to get to know him or her for who he or she and then if the subject of orientation comes up, then so what. 

I saw the show, read some of the homophobic fears that people have and seen more references of the Bible than even the Reverend Billy Gramham refers to in his sermons.  Come on people?  Do you honestly think that if someone had a choice that they would choose to be stigmatized, have to deal with gay bashings and hate crimes?   We are all born with our sexual orientation in tact, it is not something that you learn.  If child abuse was the main culprit of being gay, I would not be be straight.   

In addition, God accepts everyone who does the best he or she can to be a good person.  God does not judge you because of your race, ethnicity, orientation, or disability.  As long as you do not intentially hurt others, who should he not accept you?  He made each of us as a unique person, who has his or her own path to travel.  I do have a gay male cousin, who is devoted to his parents, a strick Catholic, who does not have a mean bone in his body.  What if this was your son or daughter, brother or sister, or someone who has been your best friend finally came out to you, hoping you would not reject him or her?  Would you turn your back because you are straight?  That is the dumbest thing I ever heard of. 

Oh, by the way, child molesters are generally straight men, who have a need to take their rage out on children, through dominance and control.   

Dr. Phil, you need to do another show on homophobia, because you need to let people know that nature, not nurture is the reason some of us are straight and some of us are gay.   

I was a little surprised that Dr. Phil said this was a phase for the 4 year old who dressed up in womens clothes and asked why God didn't make him a girl.  The child is being his authentic self without reservation.  He likes what he likes, girls toys, clothes, etc.  He doesn't like what he doesn't like, boys toys.  That's it.  He is being who he really is without societal pressure telling him who he should or should not be.  His mother is homophobic.  Well that's probably why God gave her a child likely to be gay, to teach her to love.  Because being homophobic is about hate and anger, not love.   

I am 27, and was exactly like that 4 year old, and guess what, I'm gay.  I don't know why, I just always new since I was 6.  However, I don't like wearing womens clothes now as an adult - they're just too revealing LOL.  But I played with girls toys, didn't like the boys toys.  Loved being friends with girls, didn't like hanging out with boys but was always attracted.  So let people be who they are.  God made each of us unique and out of love.  As long as you aren't hurting anybody, it's ok.  The mother - is hurting herself by hanging on to the homophobia anger and hate.  The child is just being himself and she'll end up hurting him unless she lets the love in.   

Accept what God created and stop judging. Love one another for all our glorious uniqueness.   

I'm so glad you mentioned the economic argument!  I have held this view for some time -- "being fruitful and multiplying" -- this would also explain why having multiple wives and concubines as Jacob did was acceptable in that time.  Having lots of children, especially male children, was THE road to prosperity.  Encouraging procreation was essential to the economy in that time, but we no longer have a need to populate the earth in 2005. 

I don't mean to say that we should now restrict births or encourage homosexuality over heterosexuality, but only as a way of explaining what was written in the bible in a historical context. 

The other thing to consider was that in that time, people had a fear or dislike of mixing things that were not alike, or that did not seem to fit the expected pattern.  Thus, the prohibition against eating cloven-hooved animals, or shellfish (things that live in the sea were supposed to have gills), mixing different types of fabric, or any number of other things.  For goodness sake, even women were banished during their monthly cycles because they were believed to be unclean.  To a large extent, these beliefs grew out of a lack of understanding about how things worked.   

If you read your Bible you cannot be Gay and be Christian.  It is against God. 

First, I am a Christian and I realize that some people will label me "a right winger" that is unwilling to accept people who disagree with the views of my religion.  However, I know that I stand for what the bible says and I will express my views.  

To those who say that the bible does not reject homosexuality, I say this: Read the bible! As has been pointed out by others, Leviticus rejects this act. Also, in the New Testament, 1 Corinthians 6:9 says, "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals [in some versions, catamites], nor sodomites, nor thieves, ... will inherit the kingdom of God."  I think that is pretty clear.  Sinners that do not repent of these sins will not make it to heaven. People think that once we accept Jesus as our Savior we just go on with our lives and continue to sin since we are saved by grace.  Grace is a gift from God, but we need to live our lives in an appreciative way.  I am a sinner saved by grace, just like everyone else.  The difference?  I acknowledge my sin and try to change my life. We can't continue to live in sin without repenting.  

We were made from the begginning as man and woman. It is not natural for a person to be with someone of the same sex.  Look at  it logically, two men or two women cannot reproduce. If our society were made up of homosexuals, we would die off immediately. The perfect and correct way is the way that God made us. One man with one woman!  

Do I hate homosexuals? No, but I do find it offensive that society is pressuring me to accept homosexuals, yet at the same time, pushing to sweep my faith and values under the carpet to make room for a generation of "values".  Where has this gotten us? We have more STD's than ever before, diseases such as HIV and AIDS have become wide spread, and quite frankly our society is deteriorating. No, I don't blame this on just homosexuality. I blame it on the inability of our society to set down a strict line between right and wrong, and the lack of self-control and responsibility that people show.  

I do not judge these people. My job as a Christian is to show them the word of God and try to be an example. God will be the ultimate judge! For now, I will continue to pray that our society will change for the better!  

Think about it people!