Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

You say it states in the bble that being gay is a sin, yet you also state that man has a free will, and here is my problem: 

It was man who wrote down the bible NOT god maybe by devine inspiration maybe not who knows, isn't it possible that some one might slip in a few ideas which served his own purposes? (remember we have free will) 

Furthermore the bible has been translated many times from it's original Hebrew to Greek to Latin and from there on into the modern languages don't you think there might something be lost in translation? 

And by the way didn't Jesus die for our sins? And why would you hate gays? Wasn't one of the ten commandments love thy neighbour? You say you don't hate gay people yet you say they are taken by the devil BY CHOICHE!!! You question there faith, that doesn't seem nice to me, you just hide your hate or fear behind religion. And that has happenend before with religion, suppression of the blacks for instance because they where not as "good" in the eyes of "god" to name one. was no more then hiding commercial interrest behind religion. 

And what you say that being gay is a choiche, well though straight I can assure you that it's not a choice to be gay otherwise I think there wouldn't be as many gays or do you think it is fun being scolded for being the devil all the time by the likes of you? That people are tring to change you into somthing they think is "normal"? Or not having the same rights as straight people? or having a smaller pond to fish from for a mate? 

America says it is a free country and it is, just not for everyone I guess otherwise gay marriage wouldn't have been such an issue and people wouldn't have to be changed all the time.  

I dare you to proof me wrong America! 

I find it interresting how you can compare pedophiles with homosexuals, the two have nothing alike! Pedophiles are troubled men and women that most often have had an abuse history themselves. I'm sorry but homosexuals haven't been abused had trauma's or anything ! They just feel a different atraction as opposed to having a deeper psychological problem which pedophiles have. 

Further more sex between homosexuals is consenual. sex with children ain't and you many straight sex isn't either (rape anyone?) so use real argument next time instead of saying there bad just because they are bad children do that not adults 

Hi blessed23 , 

It is not my place to judge perportrators or sinners. That is God's, and God's alone. It is, however, my right to hold those that harm others, myself included, responsible for their actions. Thus, I turn my cheek to thuse that inflict harm unto me or others.  

To find love for another is to look beyond their sin. Such is the sticky place many Christians find themselves in. They tend to get mired in the "sin" rather than lifting the spirit of the sinner. 

And the problem of sin in it's self, is that we are all born with sin and must constantly define what is sin. Sin of the Old Testament, as described by Lavitical law, no longer applies to moder day Christians. This is just one example as to how our deffinition of sin has changed to meet man's ideas of God, Christ, and sin. 

We will all find out on our judgement day, what sins we are accountable for in the Eyes of God. I'll leave it up to Him to determine that. All I know is that I will be measured, in God's eyes, by the measer that I judge others or have compassion for others.  

So I guess I could say that those that judge me harshly for being gay, wo to ye, least ye be judged. The ivory tomb that you are preparing for yourself will be your prison.  

When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate. 

However, we quickly forget some other "laws" from the old testament...Perhaps Dr. Phil could offer us some advice on this subject. Some of you may notice I am being cynical here... 
 

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in
Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the authorities to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev.11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)  

I have little tolerance for people using ancient laws to prove their point against gays (and anyone who disagrees with them) when this law was clearly written for the Jews and is only practiced by the most religious of them in modern times. All good christians know that the Jews are going to hell anyway because they don't believe in Jesus, who by the way, changed the "law" when he died on the cross for our (everybody's, not some) sins. Get it?