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(Original Air Date: 10/19/05) Sexual orientation used to be something kept hidden from family and co-workers, but now more and more people are "coming out" and finding acceptance. Anjela says her mother and sister don't support her sexual orientation, and feel she can't be Christian and gay at the same time. Can they reconcile this touchy issue? Then, two men debate whether a person can go from gay to straight, and parents of a 4-year-old boy fear their son's desire to play with dolls and wear heels means he'll grow up to be gay. Are they overreacting to his wishes to be a princess instead of a prince? Talk about gender and gay issues here.


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October 19, 2005, 6:10 pm PDT

Speaking For God

It looks like we here in the United States are too eager to speak for God when we are personally unhappy.  If that is the case, perhaps one day we will realize that God is all about being kind to one another - not about poiticizing His name for one's personal profit/benefit by hurting others.  Perhaps one day we will realize the one reason others hate us so much is because we don't know or are ignorant enough to love one another. 
 
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October 19, 2005, 6:10 pm PDT

Something to think about....

This is a letter written to Dr. Laura........ 

 

 

Dear Dr. Laura,

  

 

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

  

 

  

 

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

  

 

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

  

 

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

  

 

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

  

 

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

  

 

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

  

 

g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

  

 

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

  

 

i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

  

 

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them (Lev. 24:10-16)? Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws (Lev. 20:14)?

  

 

  

 

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

  

 

Author: Unknown 

 

Makes you think, doesn't it? 

 
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October 19, 2005, 6:11 pm PDT

Questions for you...

THE HETEROSEXUAL QUESTIONNAIRE

  

 

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?

  

 

2. When and how did you decide that you were a heterosexual?

  

 

3. Is it possible that your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?

  

 

4. Is it possible that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?

  

 

5. If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?

  

 

6. Do your parents know that you are straight? Do your friends and/or roommates know? How did they react?

  

 

7. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be who you are and keep it quiet?

  

 

8. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?

  

 

9. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?

  

 

10. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexual. Do you consider it safe to expose children to heterosexual teachers?

  

 

11. Just what do men and women do in bed together? How can they truly know how to please each other, being so anatomically different?

  

 

12. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

  

 

13. Statistics show that lesbians have the lowest incidence of sexually transmitted diseases. Is it really safe for a woman to maintain a heterosexual lifestyle and run the risk of disease and pregnancy?

  

 

14. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality?

  

 

15. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?

  

 

16. Could you trust a heterosexual therapist to be objective? Don't you feel that s/he might be inclined to influence you in the direction of his/her leanings?

  

 

 
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October 19, 2005, 6:12 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

It is interesting that most debates have to include religion. When someone wishes to condemn a thought, a view or an opinnion it is so much easier to filter their own personal hate or dislike by hiding behind the bible.  There has been more debate on which transcript of the bible is correct than on the actual topic. Posts that contain views such as "God does not allow men to wear womens clothes, and women cannot wear mens", or "right-wing bible thumping", 'New Orleans was flooded because they are all sinners"?!. How do these comments justify the topic ? 

  

If a 'holy being' does exist, I'm sure that he/she/they would be more concerned about the wars that are raging around the world, and perhaps 'protecting' innocent children that are being killed, and not waste time tut-tutting gays. 

  

  

My 'religion' consists of the unconditional love that I have for my family and they for me, this is what gives me the inner strength and ability  to be a happy, caring and a compassionate person. 

  

My first post was answered with not a reasonable argument but "you will not enter the pearly gates",!  your wrong because my 'pearly gates' open every day when my child gives me a hug and a smile............ 

  

I actually don't think about gay people at all, because that is just what they are people!  

It is not enough that they are treated like lepers, and constantly fighting for their dignity and place in society.  Ignorance is a dangerous weapon. 

  

Hopefully commonsense will prevail, and people will be able to respect others for who they are and not what. 

  

I am a heterosexual female happily married.  And once again to those who 'preach' try that 'love thy neighbour' without the buts and ifs. 

  

  

  

  

  

 
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October 19, 2005, 6:13 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: poodledo40

He dated my daughter for 2 years, and they have been married for 5 years and have 3 children. Why is it that he can go from hetrosexual to homosexual, but a homosexual can't  go to being a hetrosexual? Seems there is alway a double standard when it comes to homosexuals. Everyone is suppose to be so understanding when a gay man comes out. ( oh the pain he suffers bla, bla bla) What about the casualty these men leave in their wake? ie--3 children and a wife in our case. My soon to be ex-son-in-law ( the sooner the better) carried on an hidden affair for the past year with another man, but also agreed and conceived his third child with my daughter. He then proceded to try and drive her out of their home for the last 6 months of her pregnancy, so he could blame her for the failure of their marriage. Two weeks before she was due he walked out on her, because he thought a video tape of he and his lover was going to be made public. Maybe what we should be discussing is why do homosexuals feel intitled to our compasion and understanding? Why do they think their needs supercede everyone elses? This person just can't understand why his own family and my daughter's are so upset with him. He now feels that it is ok to take his children's home, and force their mother to go to work. They both had agreed that if was better for her to stay at home with their children prior to his great revalation. Three children 3 years old and younger certainly did not ask to have a gay father. Should they now loose the rest of the stability in their live because "Daddy" is now gay? 

  

 Very good point. You're right.  There is a double standard.  When someone goes from heterosexual to homosexual, we're all supposed to cheer him on but when the reversal happens, it's like 'how dare you!"  

Even though they fully admit that it's hard to be gay and if they could choose it they would not.

Then they throw around words like 'descrimination' and 'close-minded'
 
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October 19, 2005, 6:15 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: sheennam

HOW CAN TWO MEN OR TWO WOMAN PRODUCE A CHILD?????? THAT"S WHY GOD CREATED ADAM AND EVE O.K? 

  

  

  

  

  

The world is over six billion people strong now... its ok, we dont need to fill it any more unless we really have the desire to raise children... which I do, and will be, with my partner.
 
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October 19, 2005, 6:16 pm PDT

Gaychristian.net

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I was so happy to see that show today about the gay man going straight on Dr.Phil Show. 

God loves all people he created us all, and he did not create a man to be gay or a woman to be gay. 

He created Adam and Eve,not Adam and Steve,etc., and for a person to say God Almighty does not know what he has done,when he created us all, is like telling God he is a liar. The Devil is the Liar, and it he that has tricked so many into that sin. I hope many will turn from their wicked ways and really seek God to set them free from that bonadge of sin after the show today.I know there will be many that just dont want to stop what they are doing and God made us all free moral agents,but they can not say they did not know the truth. Just like people who drink alcohol,take dope and smoke in the name of fun, they know that it is wrong and not good for their health, but they keep right on doing it anyway. Most people have to come to the place where they are sick and tired of being sick and tired(No Peace,No Jesus) before they give up.(Know Peace,Know Jesus

I'm so glad that Justin was on the show today to spread the good word that you can be Gay and Christian. You don't have to hate yourself anymore, or try to change yourself into something the Lord never intended you to be. There was a period of time not too long ago when slave owners quoted the bible and used it as justification for owning slaves. Thankfully people understood that you have to look at the context in which something is written. Not everything can be taken at face value. It is easy to. But easy and correct are not the same thing. Being gay is not a choice. Who in their right mind would ever choose such a lifestyle? It's not a sickness. It's not a product of childhood trauma. It is the way God intended you to be. He made you the way you are and he loves you dearly.  

  

You can reconcile your faith and sexuality. Visit Gaychristian.net for more information.  

 
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October 19, 2005, 6:16 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: burningsky

THE HETEROSEXUAL QUESTIONNAIRE

  

 

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?

  

 

2. When and how did you decide that you were a heterosexual?

  

 

3. Is it possible that your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?

  

 

4. Is it possible that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?

  

 

5. If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?

  

 

6. Do your parents know that you are straight? Do your friends and/or roommates know? How did they react?

  

 

7. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be who you are and keep it quiet?

  

 

8. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?

  

 

9. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?

  

 

10. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexual. Do you consider it safe to expose children to heterosexual teachers?

  

 

11. Just what do men and women do in bed together? How can they truly know how to please each other, being so anatomically different?

  

 

12. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

  

 

13. Statistics show that lesbians have the lowest incidence of sexually transmitted diseases. Is it really safe for a woman to maintain a heterosexual lifestyle and run the risk of disease and pregnancy?

  

 

14. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality?

  

 

15. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?

  

 

16. Could you trust a heterosexual therapist to be objective? Don't you feel that s/he might be inclined to influence you in the direction of his/her leanings?

  

 

HAHAHA  I love this!  And Im tired of all those questions being directed at me!  So nice it isnt for a change!
 
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October 19, 2005, 6:19 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: max_01

Hi blessed23 , 

  

It is not my place to judge perportrators or sinners. That is God's, and God's alone. It is, however, my right to hold those that harm others, myself included, responsible for their actions. Thus, I turn my cheek to thuse that inflict harm unto me or others.  

  

To find love for another is to look beyond their sin. Such is the sticky place many Christians find themselves in. They tend to get mired in the "sin" rather than lifting the spirit of the sinner. 

  

And the problem of sin in it's self, is that we are all born with sin and must constantly define what is sin. Sin of the Old Testament, as described by Lavitical law, no longer applies to moder day Christians. This is just one example as to how our deffinition of sin has changed to meet man's ideas of God, Christ, and sin. 

  

We will all find out on our judgement day, what sins we are accountable for in the Eyes of God. I'll leave it up to Him to determine that. All I know is that I will be measured, in God's eyes, by the measer that I judge others or have compassion for others.  

  

So I guess I could say that those that judge me harshly for being gay, wo to ye, least ye be judged. The ivory tomb that you are preparing for yourself will be your prison.  

Actually, the New Testament also recognizes homosexuality as sin. And calling sin what it is not a judgement. It is a fact that homosexuality is sin as far as the Bible is concerned. Just because you deny it doesn't make it any less true. People have no trouble "judging" murderers as monsters, or being "judged" as beautiful or smart. Apparently, having any opinion at all is judgmental. Stating  sin as what it is is not judgement, but something a loving Christian does in hopes of opening one's eyes to the deception of Satan and to the hope of repentance through Jesus Christ. I say this in love, and would like to assure you that in no way do I advocate so called "gay bashing". I do believe that everyone deserves respect and to be loved. I feel the same about all sin. Including the sins and temptations I myself battle everyday. But I feel I must be truthful about what I belive to be true, and that I must represent the Bible and it's teachings if I am to call myself a Christian. I simply cannot in good conscience condone sin. That does not mean I'm perfect and don't stuggle with sin as well. It just means that I have learned to repent and turn from sin. I hope that God blesses you and that He reveals His truth to you. 
 
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October 19, 2005, 6:23 pm PDT

10/19 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: dbrrtt1

HAHAHA  I love this!  And Im tired of all those questions being directed at me!  So nice it isnt for a change!

 I think the document needs to be given out to homophobic people and see what they have to say.  I am not gay but do have several gay friends.  Some of which are still scared to come out to be seen less then human by ignorant closed-minded people.  People are crazy, if I don’t look and act a certain way, well I MUST be ostracized!!!   Something must be wrong with me and they must try and fix me.  I would hope the questionnaire would make people think again when they question anyone about there believes or lifestyles.  I take my heterosexuality for granted, I don’t think about how or why I am the way I am, I just am.  I am sure gay people feel the same way, they don’t’ think about it they just are and couldn’t answer these questions any better then I can now. 

 
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