Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Dr. Phil: 

  

What I need from you Dr. Phil, is the next time you do a show on  Gays & lesbians, please invite gays & lesbians who have been living healthy, happy lives.  Secondly, heterosexuality and homosexuality are two life styles that are difficult for anyone to have to explain.  As a lesbian I am frustrated by having to explain my life.  If we put the heterosexual life style under such scrutiny, questioning or explaining, I believe heteosexuals would become frustrated also.  Chrstianity and homosexuality will never be a compatible discussion.  Nor will a debate about the bible and homosexuality.  It's a wasted discussion and does not support healthy, loving lifestyles.  Many in the gay & lesbian community have done the hard work and have many positive stories to share.  Can your show not represent us next time. 

Just wanted to say that I enjoyed this discussion about homosexuality, religion, conversion. 

  

Truely eye opening for many, I'm sure. 

  

Many of us are stuck in our position, and so it is and probably will be.  

  

Sorry to those that I've ruffled, didn't mean ill will. Just stuck in my position also. 

  

Live long, and prosper.  Oops, wrong movie quote. 

  

Peace be with you. 

  

~Max~ 

I believe it doesn't matter what we say they are going to believe that we hate them.  I have already tried on more than one occasion to say that I hated the sin and not the person.  It has been turned around me, I have been attacked, and I have been accused of minimizing my sin and saying that homosexuality is more of a sin than the sin in my life.  All which is untrue.  I am going to pray for those that are so clouded by the lies of the enemy that they can not see the love of God.  It is really sad and the only thing we can do is pray.  God Bless.

Wow...a lot of people are bickering and fighting about what is in the bible and what is not.  I don't know a lot about it (although my husband does), but both my husband and I were forced to go to (Catholic) church when we were children and now we have chosen not to go at all.  I don't feel I need to go to church to believe in God.  I feel that living life EXACTLY according to the bible is NOT for me.  I don't need a "road map"  to structure my life.    

 

I find it interesting how a lot of people on this message board are trying to have the "right answer" according to the bible.  What ever happened to just accepting people because they are just that...a PERSON, one with feelings, hopes, dreams, goals, etc. etc.   

  

Although I know some people live according to what the bible says and that's fine, but there are SO many different versions of the bible - what's right?  Who knows the right answer about whether homosexuals should be condemned or praised?  And that's the thing, NO ONE knows...NOT ONE OF US was there when the books were written or even when they were put together to form the bible...and as far as figuring out what was ACTUALLY written...good luck.  It was all in Hebrew. 

  

Maybe I'm just a "have to see it to believe it" kind of person, but I just feel that whether you are gay or straight, you are still a human being...I don't care what the bible says - I'll still treat everyone the same way. 

I agree.  You know come to think of it.....I didn't even start liking boys until I was 10 or 11.  I know there was not a sexual attraction there yet either.  It was the idea of having a boyfriend, and maybe getting a first kiss, but that was it.  It had nothing at all to do with sex.  I have a daughter that is 14 and she has a first boyfriend and they haven't had a first kiss, yet.  My son is 9 and he likes girls, but not because of sex. So I can not figure out how people that like the same sex can say they knew at 3,4,5 or 6.

Why do you feel that it is your job to point out what is and is not okay with God?  You are not the judge of  your fellow mankind.  We will all be judged by a higher power.  It makes me angry when judgemental, narrow-minded christians try to tell people how to live and who to love.  It is supposed to be a personal relationship that each of us has with God, so therefore worry about how you live your own life and the choices you make.  Frankly,  we don't need anyone to tell us whether or not our sex life will land us in hell or not.   Homosexuality is not a crime; it is a loving relationship between consenting adults.  However, it is barely tolerated by society (and sometimes not tolerated at all) and largely due to the lack of exposure many of us have to homosexuality.  We only imagine what it is like to be gay, but we don't know fully until someone close to us comes out of the closet.  Then we become exposed to it and become educated.  It is no different than heterosexual sex.  I know a lot of lesbian women that are in very healty, loving relationships.  And they are more committed to each other than most hetero couples I know.  The only difference is that this society does not legally recognize their marriage to each other.   There are a lot better things out there for christians to worry about than pointing out the sins of others. 

Well, I was actually referring for understanding of God's Word and his laws.  In order to live in this system of things, we have to tolerate the lives of others.  But we do not have to condone or accept lifestyles that are contrary to HIS word, and we should not feel obligated to do so just because the rest of the world becomes tolerant and unfeeling. 

 

Kneeling in prayer with you. 

 

Mizpah 

 

  

 Huh?

Why do you think I've recovered from Alcoholism? 

Have you ever heard an ex smoker refer to themselves as a smoker long after they've quit?   Why would they do that.

Same way someone who hasn't touched a drop of alcohol in 20 years is calling themselves an alcoholic after all that time.  They''re free. While label themselves negatively like that?