Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

I have my own opinions about this. I believe that all people are born straight. That is our NATURAL sexuality. Even at a young age, we feel this. Boy feels "attracted" to girl and girl feels "attracted" to boy. Our natural "girl" doesn't want another girl--it "wants" a boy.....some kind of balance. Same goes with boys--their natural "boy" doesn't want another boy--it "wants" a girl. It's when some people grow up that they get overly curious about male/male...female/female. They possibly experiment and become fascinated with that curiousity and become addicted. When they go through counseling and all, or course they won't go back...they've already experienced it and they're addicted.....they like it. Most no longer have the will power to stop completely.  

Saying that they are born gay is dumb. It's only an excuse for their choice. I have yet to hear a homosexual stand up and say "I made the choice to be a homosexual". Why don't they? Because no one wants to take responsibility for their choices. No one wants to say they were not born that way, they chose to be that way--especially with how the United States (especially) is with gay people now-a-days. 

Anyway, if you beg to differ, please do. 

so don't look! no-one's holding your eyeballs open and parading things in front of you - you are free to leave. I don' like looking at kids with their pants around their thighs and bums/underwear hanging out, but I don't get all righteous and try to limit their freedom just because I don't want to have to put myself out and look the other way. I don't like the anti-choice activists who wander around with giant colour posters of aborted foetuses - it makes me sick too. but I respect their right to have their own beliefs, and I simply look away. you could demonstrate the same kind of restraint and respect (seeing as how your god demands that you quit judging people and love thy neighbour), and just ignore it when gay people express themselves in ways you don't personally find attractive. gay people have to look at you and others being straight all over the place, maybe you could deal with gay people being gay with the same kind of maturity that they deal with you?  

also, who is suffering because gay people?? seriously, if people out there are actually putting themselves through mental anguish over strangers who choose to be in loving consensual relationships, then maybe some people have too much time on their hands...maybe a hobby would be more productive that suffering over other people's pursuit of happiness. 

Whoa! 

People who suffer from mental retardation are not going to hell! Homosexuals, like it or not, have the choice on whether to lay on that bed and have sexual relations with another of their same gender. No one forces them. 

Mentally retarded people CANNOT, even if they wanted to, "repent of their sins or pray". They don't have the brain power for it! Are you implying that homosexuals have the same brain power? or don't have the brain power enough to make their own decisions? That's what you were implying when you compared them together. 

By the way, how do you know that mentally retarded people don't love God? Have you asked one? They probably love God more than you or me. What sins do they have to repent of also? 

please respond! 

umm...why?? why is hetero natural? cuz it's natural to you? everyone was born hetero cuz you were born hetero? do you think maybe other people have a different experience than you? by your theory, anyone with a different hair colour than you is unnatural, wrong, and chose to be that way. 

also, if hetero is natural, why do some people who experiment with the same sex like it, as you say, while others don't? sounds like two different orientations to me. 

lastly, america is homophobic (in general - not every individual of course). there are gay-bashings, government-sanctioned discrimmination, fewer rights etc etc. why would someone 'choose' to be gay if they were naturally inclined to be straight? do straight people just wake up one day and say to themselves "gee, I'd really like to make life more difficult and dangerous for myself. I think I'll go be gay"...?? 

not a very sound theory... 

heterosexuals can be attracted to someone who is "disfigured or grossly obese". Love, as homosexuals describe it, is "looking beyond the outside to find the inner beauty". Are you saying that heterosexuals cannot find the inner beauty of the "disfigured or grossly obese"? Of course we can! I'm sure a lot of people are not ordinarily considered "attractive". A lot of people are not attracted to the same gender as them, but somehow, others do. 

Please explain your statement more.....please. 

Can you prove that? After the Bible was officially complied as a collection of books in 397 AD, by the Eastern Orthodox people, there is no evidence that the churches even taught their parishoners to read from a Bible. 

I know for a fact here in Oklahoma that as a general rule members of Roman Catholic Churches were told NOT to own a Bible, let alone read one. It was not until the 1970s before they approved of church members owning a Bible and reading it on their own. 

Why were they told not to read the Bible? Because the RCC leaders were supposedly afraid that they would misinterpret what they read. And only an ordained minister in the RCC was allowed to interpret what they read in the Scriptures. Well, that meant that the Holy Spirit must not be involved with the church member's walk with the Lord or the fact that the RCC people were afraid that some church doctrines and traditions were NOT supported by what was written in the Bible. 

And, also, Jesus, Himself, did not approve of spiritual leaders being called "Father" or by any other title.  

One thing has been proven in this message board discussion about Wednesday's show, lots of people don't know when things are meant to be taken as literal and when some things are meant to be taken as figures of speech or metaphors by the Bibles authors. Jesus used parables, made up stories, a whole lot of times to teach a particular doctrine. They had truth in them; but, they were not actual literal events.