Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

I've already answered these questions to you in my comment. 

No, I do not believe that other people have a different experience "than me". Boys don't NATURALLY want other little boys--their body wants balance or girls. Vice-versa.  

When exactly did I mention hair color??????? Please! People are born black, white, hispanic, asian, etc--not homosexual. 

If you say that people are born homo, than you also say that people are born serial killers, child molestors, thiefs, rapists, terrorists, etc. Is that what you're saying? 

As far as America on homosexuality, I know all that. That's exactly why I said that homosexuals don't come out and say that they made their choice--because they don't want to be subject to that persecution. They'd rather try to convince people that they were born that way to try to get some kind or pity and acceptance. 

If people were born homo, then half of our population would be gay. Right? 

Also, it's true, some people like experimenting with the same sex--others don't. Umm....usually people who like it are the ones who become gay....and people who don't....well, they don't. 

I, too, have been waiting for Dr. Phil to breach this subject, since finding about about my daughter's (18) orientation last year.   I don't even know where to start in this post.  I knew this show would tongues a-wagging.  I am also amazed at how "concerned" people are over who someone is attracted too, when there are so many more important concerns in the US. 

A brief introduction of myself:  I am a 36 year old mother of five, married for 12 years.  I grew up as a pastor's daughter.  My parents did a great job raising me to love and accept all people.  I don't have racial or gay issues, people are people who need to be loved and not criticized.  I became sexually active at 16 (we didn't discuss "sex"), got pregnant at 17, and had my oldest daugther at 18.  Last year, I found a letter in Lauren's (oldest daugther) room from her girlfriend, suffice to say, I was shocked!  When I married and had more children, my husband and I discussed many of the issues we, as parents, might possibly face but homosexuality never entered out thoughts or conversations.  So when I found out about Lauren, I was furious, she had been hanging with new friends who dressed like I had perceived lesbians to dress, so my assumption was that they "turned" her gay, that it was a fad, boy was I wrong.  I had banned her from seeing these girls and her girlfriend.  Lauren became very angry and depressed, she came to be about a month later and asked how I would feel if she moved out when she turned 18, I asked her why and she said she wanted her life back, that she can't live the life her father and I wanted her to live.  Well, that was a wake up call for me.  The next day I was at work, and our software was down (feel God played a part in this) and the only thing I could use for 6 hours was the computer.  I spent those next hours just reading everything I could on God and homosexuality.  By the end of that day, I was in tears for Lauren and all the other people who were made this way and how they have been treated by society.  I decided I was no longer gonna be a part of the problem anymore.  That night I talked with my daughter at lengths, telling her I love her and will support her in who she is.  Since then, Lauren has done remarkable.  She will be graduating this year from high school, the depression has lifted, and our communication has opened again.  My parents have been wonderful with her as well.  It took some time with my dad on this issue, because he never really had to think about it and no one ever does until it hits home.  I would still be ignorant and sound like a lot of people on this board if I didn't have to confront it head on.  My dad said, as a pastor, this was always a gray issue with him.  My parents were missionaries in Africa when I was younger, they worked with drug addicts, prostitutes, gang members, drug dealers, etc.  But until last year, they had their own closed thoughts on gay people.  My dad, after hearing about Lauren, prayed and read the Word, and spoke with respected, Christian friends and after many months of searching, he has a passion and drive to reach the churches of America that are pushing the gays out of the Church (don't think God wanted that!).  He has preached at many great Christian, spirit-filled gay-inclusive churches and he cannot deny that God's presense is in those places of Worship!  Lauren and I went with him to one in Long Beach, CA and I met some tremendous, wonderful, stable, loving, married for years gay couples that would put some of us heterosexual couples to shame.  But the bottom line, is God loves the gay community!!  God's presense is with them, they can serve, love, and worship Him right alongside with the rest of us.  So, bottom line, instead of "Bible thumping", do more research than just quoting things you've heard, or ignorant beliefs.  Love goes a long way and I live by "Love is Never Wrong"  I would love to talk to any parent who has or is going through what I have!  God's journey is never-ending and there is so much that no one knows or never will know until we meet our Creator!!  Whew- that was long, tried to make it short  =)  But I am so passionate for the gay community, I want them to be loved and accepted just like anyone else, that day is coming! 

TulseyJoeCan I have your email?  I forwarded to my dad some of what you had posted and he is very interested in emailing (speaking) with you!  Thanks!  Kelly 

Keep up the great work, Dr. Phil, God is using you greatly to educate and change the family dynamics in America today!!  Is is a continued work in progress! 

An appreciative fan in PA, 

Kelly 

No he didn't. God gave muslims the Koran because he is the author of the Koran, therefore Muslims can safely say they know what God wants. Who's the author of the Bible? 

First of all, the words "mentally retarded" are not mine either--they're the person's to whom I responded to (I forget who--I don't keep track of who I respond to....maybe "mommyjenna"? not sure). Anyway, those were her words--just to make that clear. 

Also, then your client obviously has the brain power to do what she does. She knows what she wants. If she doesn't honor her parents "a whole bunch" than she knows how they're supposed to be treated, but chooses to treat them a different way. The fact that she "doesn't know what christianity is let alone memorize the rules and regulations around it", also implys that she doesn't know what repentance is. Therefore, she couldn't repent if she wanted to. I don't see how she's applicable to the argument. 

Also, your question, "what is that assumptions based on?", referring to my statement of mentally challenged people not choosing to be born that way, has me confused. Are you saying that mentally challenged people choose to be born that way? I'm not sure what you meant. Please explain.