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(Original Air Date: 10/19/05) Sexual orientation used to be something kept hidden from family and co-workers, but now more and more people are "coming out" and finding acceptance. Anjela says her mother and sister don't support her sexual orientation, and feel she can't be Christian and gay at the same time. Can they reconcile this touchy issue? Then, two men debate whether a person can go from gay to straight, and parents of a 4-year-old boy fear their son's desire to play with dolls and wear heels means he'll grow up to be gay. Are they overreacting to his wishes to be a princess instead of a prince? Talk about gender and gay issues here.


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June 5, 2006, 2:05 am PDT

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Quote From: elffie

You bring up the Da VInci Code, interesting because after many people told me I should read it I have started to.  Everything that I have read so far about Pagan symbology is correct.  The author clears the misconception of the Pentacle, which most people do not understand.  I have not gotten very far in the book yet, but find it a very good read.  And so far, his historical take on symbology is correct, many Pagan temples indeed were turned into churches and still contain Pagan symbols inside the churches. 

  

Anyway, I know this doesn't really have anything to do with this topic, I just wanted to put my two cents in on this matter.  I still don't think being gay is a choice, what you mentioned above were choices.  I don't think being gay is wrong, just different. 

  

Have a good day. 

Most persons desire to live right and feel a sense of belonging......most persons desire connection with a true God........one we can depend upon ........someone who has the right choice for us because they created us for a purpose.......this is our Father in heaven......unlike any father here on earth.......full of love and compassion and patience and mercy and grace.........this is something we all desire.......RIGHT.........well .....there are guidelines we need to follow ........it is always for our best, not for evil...........God is not an evil taskmaster, laying guidelines to be mean...........he is a holy GOD.......and those desiring the Kingdom of God can only enter through surrender of our selfish ways..........He is our creator, afterall, and knows what is best........there is freedom in surrender........ 

  

I have found some scriptures to support my reply: 

1st Corinthians 6:9.....Don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the Kingdom of go? Those who indulge in sexual sin, idol worshippers, adulterers, male prostitutes and homosexulas. 

  

1st Timothy 1:10.......These are the laws for people who are sexually immoral, for homosexuals, slave traders, oath breakers, and for those who do anything else that contradicts the right teaching. 

  

Anyone desiring to enter the kingdom of God......can ask forgiveness for the past ......at any time ....and you can experience the freedom offered....it is yours ....by grace.......Jesus will intercede for you to the Father.......just ask 

 
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June 5, 2006, 2:33 am PDT

Breath of fresh air:)

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 I just wanted to say that I believe you when you say that you did not choose to be gay.  I have seen what it has done to people.  God does love you.  Please understand that he does say that homosexuality is wrong, BUT he also says that he does love you.  I think gays must have been special spirits because they are faced with a great challenge here on Earth.  Keep your head up!

This is the heart of Christ right here.   

   

Malachi 3:3, "He sits as a refiner and purifier of silver..."   

   

Whoever you are, your words have been an encouragment to me in my walk of faith as I come before God honestly with these desires that I have which are in conflict with God's original intent for my life.   

   

I never asked to be gay and I never wanted to be gay.  At the same time God never said that life was easy and He never said that life was even fare.  My story is quite common to the majority of those who are gay.  It is one of abuse and rejection.  My story just happens to be quite extreme with the abuse and neglect and the loss of those closest to me.  What impacted me most was my mother's death when I was two and being raised by an alcoholic father.  My father had a long journey towards sobriety and he's been sober for nearly 18 years and I don't believe this has been for him, an easy life.  I believe it is the grace of God which has enabled my father to keep his sobriety.     

   

I have had to come to the place of confessing that I am weak and powerless over my addictions and tendency to do the wrong thing.   

   

"humble yourself therefore under the mighty hand of God and in due time He will exhault you, for God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble,"   

   

In the bible we see that Paul had a thorn in his side and God never removed the thorn.   

   

Andrew Comisky, former homosexual, graduate from Fuller Theological Seminary, Pastor, founder of Desert Stream Ministries (ex-gay ministry) from which Living Waters came out of.  Andy who is the Author of the book Strength in Weakness wrote this in the book,   

   

"As the deeper end of a dry valley drinks in the rain most deeply so the cavities of Paul's soul received the out pouring of God's Holy Spirit...Paul's weakness anchored him to God's divine grace and power,"   

   

And I add...as God's response to Paul and his thorn and to us in the weaknesses of our humanity is,            

                       "My grace is sufficient for my power is made perfect in weakness,"   

   

God's grace is taler made and precision cut to fit my circumstances and needs whatever it is.   

   

My father is a retired commercial fisherman and I can remember being 17 years old traveling through the gulf just off the coast of BC.   With one sudden swoop we took a nose dive right to the bottom of this wave and the wave crashed over the bow of the boat.  All I could see was water and at first it nearly sounded like the bottom of my father's boat cracked with the forced of the drop.     

   

My father ran to where I was and took control of the boat.  As he took control he began to teach me how to maintain control through these waters.  I then took the stearing wheel and continued cranking on it, three full cranks in one direction and then three full cranks in another.  I sat there, cranking on the stearing wheal while looking out towards the scenory.  I began to see something that was vaguely familiar with me.   

   

I was reminded of my first fishing trip traveling through the same area in the same conditions only back then I was sea sick and extremly frightened.  I knew my mother's father had drowned when his fishing boat capsized just off the coast of BC and so I had been aware of what could possably happen.   

   

My first time traveling through the gulf my father saw that I was realy frightened and motioned for me to climb up onto his lap.  It was then that I was able to see my father realy was in control of the boat and I realy didn't have anything to be afraid of.   

   

Fast forward ten years later, now I was the one in control of the boat.  As the memory came to mind tears began to fall from my eyes as God began to use this as a teachable moment.   

   

God began to speak, "Do you remember when you were younger and all you could see were the waves crashing over the boat but when you could see from where your father could see, you no longer were afraid because you knew that your father was in control?  In the same way I am your father in heaven and what I see is different from what you see.  Storms come and they go, storms of life they too come and they go.  I am God and I am in control, even in the midst of the storm I am still God and will remain in control."   

   

I don't realy have to understand why I do the things that I do.  And I realy don't need to understand why I struggle with unwanted homosexuality but one thing I know is that God knows me and He's in control.  His grace is taler made and precision cut to fit my needs whatever it is.    

   

I Press through and walk on through these homosexual desires and embrace the truth of who God created me to be as a woman made in His image, while trusting that He who began a good work in me is faithful to bring it to completion.   

   

I know that with God all things are possable to those who believe.   

   

And I believe in the healing power of my God, and until then I know that His grace is truly taler made and precision cut to fit my circumstances in life, whatever it is.   

   

   

 
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June 5, 2006, 2:54 am PDT

06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

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 I feel this way - whom you sleep with is no-one's business but yours - people are people we all bleed the same we all have problems, hopes and dreams we were created differently for a reason. I don't know how anyone can think sexual orientation is a choice - why would anyone choose to be hated - thought as a freak of nature and the list could go on. My sister is a lesbian and she's only come out to myself and my mom - our mother doesn't acknowlege her sexuality or ask about her girlfriends she acts like the conversation never existed - I could care less she is still my loving sister and good friend - let people be who they are and except them for this.

Sorry everyone is not created equal. You can do what ever you want that doesnt make it right ever. If one wants to sleep with a dog is that right? If one want to drink does that make it right. If one wants to drive drunk does that make it right. The bottem line is when you  stand before God you can tell God it is ok and that it was not up to you.
 
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June 5, 2006, 3:02 am PDT

06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

Quote From: elffie

You bring up the Da VInci Code, interesting because after many people told me I should read it I have started to.  Everything that I have read so far about Pagan symbology is correct.  The author clears the misconception of the Pentacle, which most people do not understand.  I have not gotten very far in the book yet, but find it a very good read.  And so far, his historical take on symbology is correct, many Pagan temples indeed were turned into churches and still contain Pagan symbols inside the churches. 

  

Anyway, I know this doesn't really have anything to do with this topic, I just wanted to put my two cents in on this matter.  I still don't think being gay is a choice, what you mentioned above were choices.  I don't think being gay is wrong, just different. 

  

Have a good day. 

You use the word Pagan. I was when I was young and nobody had to tell me about it i just knew. But get with the program Mary was not into adultry. That was proven awhile ago never mind she was a Goddess of a temple. When Jesus said sin no more it was to someone else. But what does that really mean. SIN NO MORE> Not just go confess and do it again.
 
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June 5, 2006, 3:22 am PDT

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 I just finished my second book and it is an auto-biography of my life. I had to deal with many sexual perversions and gay abuse in my life. I am not gay. I consider myself spiritual but not religious. I do not say I am a Christian but do believe Jesus was the most spiritual being to walk this planet. I feel the Ten Commandments are very important for this world as much as I do morals.  I feel every time I have to except someone else’s morals I lose a piece of myself. Am I wrong for my belief and how far does it have to go before people like me have the same rights as those with out morals? If two people are gay and they keep it to themselves I feel it is ok for them but when it interferes with children no. Now they are talking about Gays adopting children. It was very hard for a male and female couple to adapt awhile ago. It was always easy if you went outside of your race. Which I think is very important to allow. I do not feel adapting any child is wrong. I do feel it is wrong now when two gay parents do. The first thing a child learns is that it is ok. Well when a sick person says it is ok to marry a child like they do in other countries should we allow it now in the US ? Do you know it is still wrong on the book to have 69 in some states? Not that it ever goes to court but when two men have sex it is OK and what if children are around. When I was little I had many men and older boys try to touch me and some did forcefully.  My first attack I was about six years old and a man tried to make me have sex with little girls I didn’t know what was happening but we both screamed and he ran away. Later during playing different times I was either tied up or grabbed while hiding by a man or older boy. I wonder now why I was always being hit on by gay men while I worked on the phone lines in the phone company for twenty years. While in a persons house while I was working on the phones if the tenant was a gay person many times I was proposition never mind they would have different kind of sexual things around and even ask me if I wanted a blow job. I had a very rich gay men ask me to massage them or they would ask me if I wanted one. There was always some kind of porn on TV. I was stuck talking to many gay men trying to pick me up and they like to pick up virgins meaning never had sex with a man. Why doesn’t any body talk about that instead of how good for a child to be adapted by gays is?  I feel the general public have no idea what gay man are really doing when they are not in a relationship. Then again what they are doing in a relationship. I know people should be aware. If you do it you will do it even if it is wrong in God’s eyes. So just for your own self protection you need to hear someone say God says its ok. I really think you should get that reply from God and no one else if you cant I guess you will live in your own lie.    Tommy  

 
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June 5, 2006, 3:40 am PDT

Wow! is right:)

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"Proof-texting" is the taking of a phrase, sentence, chapter, etc., of literature out of its original historical context to either support one's view or condemn others. According to the the author of the textbook which I had when I took Biblical Hermeneutics (aka Bible Interpretation), the KJV translators did a dis-service to the Bible by dividing its books up into chapters and verses. Because of that, English speaking readers, especially, take phrases, sentences, verses, and even chapters of the Bible completely out of their original contexts and misuse them. Oh, I took that course when I was a graduate student at Oral Roberts University in the 1970s working on a Master of Arts in Theological and Historical Studies (MATHS) Degree. I attended there for 5 semesters. I was in denial of my sexual orientation then. 

  

The word mistranslated as "prostitute" in the Living Bible is "kodesh" for males and "kodeshah" for females. The word "Kodesh" and its feminine spelling Kodeshah" do not mean prostitute at all.  

  

When Deuteronomy was written, there were no vowel points in the Hebrew text at all. Those were added by a group of Jews a long time after the birth of Jesus. When referring to a person, "kodesh" refers to anyone serving a god, either a pagan god or YHWH, aka Yahweh or Jehovah. What the author of Deuteronomy was referring to is that none of the Children of Israel should be serving the Canaanite gods as holy persons.  

  

In regard to what is in 1 Corinthians 6:9-13, and the word translated as "male prostitutes," which is "malakoi," that word means "soft" and Jesus used the very same word when referring to the kind of clothing which John the Baptist did not wear.  

  

And that other word, arsenokoitai, mistranslated as "homosexual offenders," was NEVER used by any other of the Bible's authors other than the Apostle Paul.  . . . AND according to experts in historical documents  and other Greek writings, NOBODY, and I mean Nobody! used the word except Paul himself.  

  

Do not call the same-gender sexual activity in Leviticus 18:22  and Leviticus 20:13 homosexual acts. Oh, it's true that both of the persons involved are male adults; but, the actual sex act is not done by homosexuals at all! One of the was a Kodesh, a male holy person, and the other a married-to-a-woman heterosexual man who went to make a ritual sacrfice to the Canaanite fertility gods. And as i stated before, that "kodesh" would put on women's clothing pretending to be Asherah, the Canaanite fertility goddess. In the mind of the heterosexual man from the community, he was not having sexual activity with a male person at all, he was having sex with a woman, the goddess herself! 

  

It is interesting that people read the Bible without even doing any personal research into the very culture or cultures the Bible's Books' authors were discussing. If you, referring to the author of the person I quoted in this disucssion, don't know anything about the customs of the Canaanites and the Romans and their worship of false gods, you won't even understand what the authors of Leviticus, Romans, I & II Corinthians, and I & II Timothy are talking about in regard to pagan religions. 

  

In fact, Chapters 18, 19, AND 20 of Leviticus should be read as one complete context. The opening verses of Chapter 18 are repeated/summed up in the closing verses of Chapter 20.  

  

Oh, the original Living Bible was an English PARAPHRASE, not a translation, of the King James Version of the Bible. Mr. Taylor did not use the Hebrew nor Greek Texts to do that paraphrase. He made lots of mistakes in doing so.  

  

Literally here is what Leviticus 18:22 states when properly translated from the Hebrew: "And you (male) shall not lay  as one lays with a woman; that is "to'ebah" (a taboo in Hebrew culture/religion).  

  

Literally in translation, Leviticus 20:13 states: And a man who lies (or lays) with a male as one lies with a woman, both of them have done a "to'ebah." "To'ebah" is translated as "abomination" and "detestable" in various English versions of the Bible. If one eats shrimp, lobster, or even catfish, according to what is in the books of Moses, one has done a "to'ebah." If one eats meat with cheese on it, one has done a "toebah." It was to'ebah to eat pork. So a bacon cheeseburger is a doubled to'ebah!" Modern Bible-thumping "Christians commit what the OT writers called "to'ebah" almost every day of their adult lives.  

  

Real men who are exclusively homosexual in their sexual orientation and are comfortable with that, i.e. gay, do not pretend that one of them is female in same-gender sexual activity as in the Leviticus' explanation. 

   

I have yet to check in my Strong's concordance and my Hebrew lexicon text book to realy rebuttle what you have to say on this issue, I also went through Hermeneutics.   

   

You should check out Joe Dallas's writing's and his rebuttle of pro-gay theology...To keep this short and simple, this could just turn out to be quite exhausting for everyone.  This isn't literature to spread hate but rather it takes a very integral and honest look at the scriptures and answers the pro-gay theology which is something that I am not all that equipped at the moment to respond to.  I believe the book is called Strong Delusion.   

   

Joe Dallas, was a former homosexual and a former member of the Metropalitan Church.  He has done extensive research on pro-gay theology having at one time been an activist for pro-gay theology.  He now has writen literature to help the church respond to such questions that has arisen because of pro-gay theology.  If anybody knows anything about pro-gay theology it is this man right here.     

   

I like to keep it short and simple...God created Adam and then said that it was not good for Adam to be alone and so He created a suitable help mate...Eve.  Male and female joined together as one.    

   

Then Adam and Eve fell from God's original design introducing themselves into a now fallen world and a fallen creation.  Eden then became a forbidden place for Adam and Eve to dwell.  And the order of God's creation fell along with it.  There isn't any fancy words in the Hebrew to come against that.  This is the fundamental truth that Jews, Muslims, Christians, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormon's, Seventh Day Adventist all agree on.     

   

These religions can't even agree on who Jesus is but they will agree with Adam and Eve being created in the image of God and Eve  the suitable helpmate for Adam.     

   

Regardless of the debate of what happens next, all will agree that both Adam and Eve fell from God's original intent for their lives.   And when you have every Judeo-Christian and cult all agreeing on this right here one would have to say...this must be true.  Think about that for one moment...   

   

If there is one thing that all these religion's agree on it is the order of God's creation and yet pro-gay theological debaters wish for people to think it could be anything different?   

   

   

 
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June 5, 2006, 4:27 am PDT

Interesting:)

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You bring up the Da VInci Code, interesting because after many people told me I should read it I have started to.  Everything that I have read so far about Pagan symbology is correct.  The author clears the misconception of the Pentacle, which most people do not understand.  I have not gotten very far in the book yet, but find it a very good read.  And so far, his historical take on symbology is correct, many Pagan temples indeed were turned into churches and still contain Pagan symbols inside the churches. 

  

Anyway, I know this doesn't really have anything to do with this topic, I just wanted to put my two cents in on this matter.  I still don't think being gay is a choice, what you mentioned above were choices.  I don't think being gay is wrong, just different. 

  

Have a good day. 

I do believe that you are right with a few things of what you mentioned including the misconception of the Pentacle.  The design is different in the church of satan than it is with Pagan circles, from my understanding...Pentacle diagram represents the circle of life and more.   

   

I have friends at one time who were into witchcraft.  One friend in particular who is a Pagan Priest.  I used to work with him which was how we got connected as friends.  The Christian...who struggles with unwanted homosexuality who has hung out with gay witches...white supremist red-necks who are into death metal...had worked at a gay bar on fetish nights...worked as a first aid attendant for a few years at Rave Dance Parties...and you know, when I share my testimony to people they always get the reader's digest version because I just don't have enough time in a day to share with people all of what God has done in my life.  I don't judge people and I can have a pretty decent conversation with just about anybody and still maintain my belief's and my core values in life.     

   

I don't like death metal, I am a Southern Gospal Bluegrass kind a country gal lost in the city:)   

   

My suggestion to you that you and anyone else who is interested in studying further about the Da Vinci Code to check out this web site...   

   

www. DiscussDaVinci.com   

   

The ironic thing about lies is that one take a little truth and then one twists and perverts truth.   

In the end what have you but partial truth, which isn't truth at all.   

   

There is another book out there called Breaking The Da Vinci Code by Josh McDowell, I believe he is the author of this of this book.     

   

Think about this for one moment...Does this make sense?   

   

A group of people get together and say, "here, let's create this conspirousy theory, one can die on a cross, another can actualy die upside down on the cross and one get boiled alive in oil.  Let's all create this conspiriousy and then actualy die horrible deaths...all for what we know to be a lie,"   

   

Yes, I do believe that at times, more often then not, we can't choose our battles in life.  I never said that being gay was a choice because believe you me, if I had a choice that would make my walk of faith just a little easier to walk...you know what I mean?  There are some choices that we do have and behavior is one thing we can control.   

   

I suppose people will debate about pro-gay theology just as much as they debate on who Jesus is and who he claimed to be.     

   

Peace to you my friend, and I hope that you will check out that web site...Disscuss Da Vinci. com   

   

   

 
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June 5, 2006, 4:41 am PDT

Your right:)

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Hi, As the title suggests we need to read the bible. Yes homosexuallity is a sin. Ok that being said so is lying, murder , rape, stealing etc and the list goes on. here in lies the problem we are missing the problem.  Sin is not the reason any one will or will not go to heaven. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23. the reason someone will or will not go to heaven is whether or not they chose Jesus as their savior. that was the reason he came to die to be a payment for our sins the only requirement is that we freely accept this gift.  Yes we can get into all sorts of legalism about teaching and membership but these issues take us off the real Question of has that person truly accepted Christ and if they have it is than issue between them and God and he already sees them as righteous and blameless by the covering of Jesus sacrifice for them on the cross.  Satan loves it when we get involved in these meaningless discussions and concentrate an the worldly aspects of our existence and forget about the spiritual end of things. "for we do not wrestle against flesh and blood , but against principalities, against powers,against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places"Ephesians 6:12  we need to quit warring amongst ourselves and take faith in the on who has already defeated Satan on our behalf and trust in him and not our own works. The most important decision you make in your life is what you do with Jesus.

If anyone has come to true saving knowledge in Jesus Christ it is between them and God as they work out their salvation before God.  

   

I agree one hundred percent...  

   

Rev 12:11, "They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, the word of their testimony not loving their lives unto death,"  

   

   

 
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June 5, 2006, 5:00 am PDT

Good on you:)

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you say there is no mention of homosexuallity . How about Genesis 19, 1st Corinthians 6:9-10.  the problem is that it is a sin like any other and that people don't want it to be a sin because of bad teachin they think tha they will go to hell. that real problem is not sin that will send you to heaven or hell but your answer to the question of accepting Jesus as your savior. If you haven't done that it doesn't matter how "good" you have been heaven won't be your final destination. "Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father  except through me." John14:6 he was speaking to Thomas at the time. I pray that your eyes will be opened to the truth of the word and not be decieved by satan's lies and treachery as he is the real enemy.

What is important to agree on I do.  

   

"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.  For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but to save the world..."  Jn 3:16,17  

   

   

 
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June 5, 2006, 5:39 am PDT

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"First of all, you stated, "Every homosexual person I know(including myself, I am bisexual)"  I have a big problem with. Being BISEXUAL is a choice.  Being straight isn't a choice, nor is being homosexual.  You are either Homosexual or Straight........there is no in between."

How do you know this...LOL? Bisexuality isn't an "in between" anyway.

"I have no clue as to what "I'm going to flame you" means, I'm not going to even worry about that comment, sounds a bit juvenile to me really,"

What the hell are you talking about? This comment was to another poster who said something about getting "flamed" by me. It wasn't to you or to anyone else. So go get all prissy with her about it. Not me. Sometimes I wonder if you know how these message boards work. I was merely explaining to her that this isn't a "flame war" kind of message board. So you look pretty damn silly for accusing me of being juvenile when I was only explaining something TO SOMEONE ELSE SPECIFICALLY...lol. Why don't you go back and read the exchange, you will see that she was the one who used the word "flame" and I only used it back in QUOTES because I was QUOTING her...so go call her names and leave me out of it.

"but I will say, you do get a bit defensive in some areas....and you know what....that is fine....I am a bit that way myself about some topics, for example, believing in God.  I don't have your physical proof for you, I can't show you GOD in a physical state, but I'll guarantee you he exists...you know how I know?  I know because my 3 children and myself have feelings, we breath, we love......NOTHING else on GOD"S GREEN EARTH could "make" what he has...............impossible!  With GOD, ALL things are possible! "

Well that is a matter of opinion isn't it? I don't believe there is a god. There is no proof of one and there doesn't need to be one to explain anything on earth.  I have never tried to tell people they can't believe in god..never, not once. I have however been told several times by several people that I should believe in a god.

"I don't want to argue or debate with you, but when I read your posts, some of your posts, you seem to get very mad about another's person opinion.....yet when they get mad about yours, you get defensive."

I think you are confusing debating with getting defensive. I get in passionate debates and I am a vocal about being an atheist. I get upset when people try to force their religions on others. The only times I have gotten defensive, maybe, is when people become offensive at me for being an atheist.  Like people spamming my inbox with pics of Jesus and things like that.

"I know I have had my share of "debates" on these boards, but I was always respectful enough to try to understand the other person's point of view and I was also careful to explain myself and to let the other person know that "I understand" you may not agree with me, blah blah blah......... "

So am I. I defy you to find a place where I ever turned things personal (like you have here), called names or was rude(like you were here). I was rude one time a month ago to a woman on a different board (wife-styles) and I apologized about 20 times and offered her kind words as a truce. 

"PS...I do know a person that claims to be a homosexual, she said she wasn't born that way, she CHOSE to be "homo" because of her past relationships with men.  LMAOOOO, I told her she is BISEXUAL and yes, being BISEXUAL is a choice, being HOMOSEXUAL IS NOT!  Being STRAIGHT IS NOT!  BIG DIFFERENCE! "

Ok, well then. That woman is a not a homosexual. She is a person who chose to have relationships with women. That is different then being someone who was born to have sexual feelings towards the same sex.

You are going to have to explain to me how you know that being bisexual is a choice. Here I am, a bisexual woman who is telling you it is not.

I had my first feelings, homosexual in nature at 7 years old with my best friend. I remember feeling more then friendship for her. The same kind of  "crush" feelings I had on boys.

I have biological sexual reactions to men and women that are out of my control. Physical reactions to being aroused by men and women.

I have had crushes on males and females. I have had sex with males and females. The person I was involved with before I met my husband was a woman. We were together for almost a year.

So here I am, TELLING you that I didn't choose this. So how do you KNOW I'm lying? I want to know your evidence, why you jump to this conclusion. Because anyone can type something is ALL CAPS! And be emphatic about something but it doesn't mean it's true.  LOL

This was interesting to read...   

   

I still want to find out what "I'm going to flame you," means:)   

   

So here we have a discussion on whether or not bisexuality is a choice.     

   

"So, how do you know I'm lieing...I want to know your evidence?"   

   

It's interesting that all of us know within the core of our beings that whomever we become attracted to is realy not in our control.  One say's bisexuality is a choice and another says it is not and to place a little more grounding in her argument she talks openly and freely about her emotional feelings and responses to both men and women.  I believe she is talking from her heart and speaking what is true about her feelings and emotions.   

   

Of course I am responding to ALL people here with this one because she brings up an interesting point.   

   

I have never said that being hetero..homo..or bi..is a choice....and I have always stated that we do have a choice with behavior, but who am I to dictate one's behavior?  I will share my religious beliefs and if a way is opened for me to do so, I will always jump on the chance to speak from my own personal experiences.  Who can argue with me on that?   

   

One speaks of the healing work of God in their lives and people say that can't be?   

   

Can anyone dispute that?  Can anyone say...they are lieing?  Where is the proof?   

   

I know of God's healing work in my life and I also know that I have journied from absolutly no attraction to men whatsoever to attraction towards men.  It wasn't about the question..am I or am I not...I was never bicurious.  But people like me who claim that healing is possable and have experienced it to a degree are not supposed to exist. But they do exist and because healing is possable one can only question how much realy is there to do with a genetic factor?   

   

   

 
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