Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

And here we have yet another long-winded sermon about what God thinks and what God wants us to do. And the only justification people have for telling us what the word of God is, comes from an ancient book written by people who thought the sun revolved around the earth, and that God made Adam by breathing into a handful of mud. Why should anyone with any common sense take the writtings of such a book so literally, that it trumps their own heart? This is a clueless response to an incredibly heart wrenching personal story. How can one take such a cold-hearted attitude and euphemistically refer to it as the will of God? If there is any validity to Christianity, it must speak through the heart - not through the superstitions of an ancient collection of scriptures. 

BTW, I will not waste time & energy commenting on the disgusting attitude displayed by comparing gay relationships to bestiality, pedophilia, fornication, sexual addiction or perversion. It is impossible to argue with this level of ignorance, especially after having read a heartfelt account of a loving relationship that was supported by a loving family, instead of being demonized or met with the chill of social isolation, as I have seen with so many gay couples. 

We people on this message board live in the real world and if we have half a brain, we understand the "state of our union."  Whether or not  we accept it, doesn't change things. The Bible is one of those things.  Most people never even spend the time doing a search on just how it came down to our coffee tables.  As I stated before, our generation thinks the Bible is something that is no longer relevant to our modern times.    

Christians do not, I repeat, do not hate homosexuals, we hate the very acts they perform.  They are a horrible insult on God's holy plan of the wonderful sexual act. An act He blesses within the marriage laws in the Bible  A marriage between a man and a woman.  We truly, "washed in the Blood" Christians would never think of being violent to these dear people. Our church welcomes homosexuals with open arms.  They need to hear the Gospel message more than the average sinner.  We will welcome them as long as they act decent and godly in our Sanctuary.  However, we could not welcome them to become a part of our membership until they were saved from their sin.  No more than a practicing, out of the closet, pedophile would be welcomed into our church.  Don't hate us for our morals, we get them from God.  What is wrong with us abiding by the Holy Laws of the Creator of this Universe? Moslems are not persecuted, nor ridiculed when they bow to the East five times a day!  Or force the Quran into their philosophy, America, aren't they the ones with the suicide bombs? Last time I checked, Born Again Christians are the most peaceful people on the earth and will give you their last dollar, if you truly  need it. At least, that's how it is in my little church.  

Bottom line America, no we don't need to "minister", we need to be "ministered to".  People all around us are dying and going to a sinner's hell, and we worry about what brand toilet paper to buy!  People don't want to hear  about Jesus today.  They want to go to church and have a Burger King agenda, "Have it  your way".  People want to feel good, they went to church. "There God, that's it for this week."   

 Homosexuals are ridiculed at every level of society, and they always will be.  I'm sorry, but they are abnormal.  And that lie about there being a homosexual gene is hogwash, check it out. Again I stress with a big fat question nobody seems to answer, "WHAT DOES A PERSON'S SEXUAL BEHAVIOR THAT IS IN THEIR OWN PRIVATE BEDROOM HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?" We normal people don't have "straight" campaigns going on out there.  We keep our personal business where it belongs, in our bedrooms!  Why don't you people get back in the closet and hush up about your sexuality and quit cramming it down our throats. WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO TO EACH OTHER IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOME!!!   

The simple message Jesus left us with was, to love one another.  That means if you see your neighbor going through a rough time, help them. That also means you will read that Bible to your family men and you moms will step up and do what mothers are supposed to.  Jesus left us with a clear model of how we are to act.  Read it for yourself in the Gospels!  If your family needs to make amends, do it. Grow up America.  Stop staring at the "boob tube", start showing some awareness of what's going on right in your own living room!   

Sorry, didn't mean to meddle.....   

We people on this message board live in the real world and if we have half a brain, we understand the "state of our union."  Whether or not  we accept it, doesn't change things. The Bible is one of those things.  Most people never even spend the time doing a search on just how it came down to our coffee tables.  As I stated before, our generation thinks the Bible is something that is no longer relevant to our modern times.    

Christians do not, I repeat, do not hate homosexuals, we hate the very acts they perform.  They are a horrible insult on God's holy plan of the wonderful sexual act. An act He blesses within the marriage laws in the Bible  A marriage between a man and a woman.  We truly, "washed in the Blood" Christians would never think of being violent to these dear people. Our church welcomes homosexuals with open arms.  They need to hear the Gospel message more than the average sinner.  We will welcome them as long as they act decent and godly in our Sanctuary.  However, we could not welcome them to become a part of our membership until they were saved from their sin.  No more than a practicing, out of the closet, pedophile would be welcomed into our church.  Don't hate us for our morals, we get them from God.  What is wrong with us abiding by the Holy Laws of the Creator of this Universe? Moslems are not persecuted, nor ridiculed when they bow to the East five times a day!  Or force the Quran into their philosophy, America, aren't they the ones with the suicide bombs? Last time I checked, Born Again Christians are the most peaceful people on the earth and will give you their last dollar, if you truly  need it. At least, that's how it is in my little church.  

Bottom line America, no we don't need to "minister", we need to be "ministered to".  People all around us are dying and going to a sinner's hell, and we worry about what brand toilet paper to buy!  People don't want to hear  about Jesus today.  They want to go to church and have a Burger King agenda, "Have it  your way".  People want to feel good, they went to church. "There God, that's it for this week."   

 Homosexuals are ridiculed at every level of society, and they always will be.  I'm sorry, but they are abnormal.  And that lie about there being a homosexual gene is hogwash, check it out. Again I stress with a big fat question nobody seems to answer, "WHAT DOES A PERSON'S SEXUAL BEHAVIOR THAT IS IN THEIR OWN PRIVATE BEDROOM HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?" We normal people don't have "straight" campaigns going on out there.  We keep our personal business where it belongs, in our bedrooms!  Why don't you people get back in the closet and hush up about your sexuality and quit cramming it down our throats. WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO TO EACH OTHER IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOME!!!   

The simple message Jesus left us with was, to love one another.  That means if you see your neighbor going through a rough time, help them. That also means you will read that Bible to your family men and you moms will step up and do what mothers are supposed to.  Jesus left us with a clear model of how we are to act.  Read it for yourself in the Gospels!  If your family needs to make amends, do it. Grow up America.  Stop staring at the "boob tube", start showing some awareness of what's going on right in your own living room!   

Sorry, didn't mean to meddle.....   

The sad fact about most homosexuals is that they were seduced for that first sexual experience.  Not molested, but seduced.  The main agenda of a homosexual is that the world become homosexual.  They have been seduced by Satan in that when they were seduced by the homosexual, usually a pedophile, that first sexual experience was permanently set on their sexual register.  Usually, they spend years trying to recapture the rapture of that first sexual experience.  That is why homosexuality is so insidious and growing so rapidly.  We are being fooled into thinking our kids are in danger of other things and homosexuality is growing by leaps and bounds because your child is under attack by the homosexual community.  Believe it or not, it's the truth.  Check it out. All you have to do is pay attention how the television shows are pushing it in more and more every season.  Most celebrities have to go along with it or be ostracized.  It's a sad thing because it is bringing down our country.  I truly believe it, because I'm witnessing it. 

Getting yourself out of it is another story for which I have no answer, thank God, I never walked through that door. Whew! 

piparker, you said:    

Our church welcomes homosexuals with open arms.  They need to hear the Gospel message more than the average sinner.  We will welcome them as long as they act decent and godly in our Sanctuary.  However, we could not welcome them to become a part of our membership until they were saved from their sin.  No more than a practicing, out of the closet, pedophile would be welcomed into our church.  Don't hate us for our morals, we get them from God.  At least, that's how it is in my little church.   

So let me get this straight, no PRACTICING sinner is ever allowed to join your church?  

So I guess that means you have no members who are currently involved in affairs? Or people who  cheat on their taxes? Or young unmarried couples living together? Or any person who smokes marijuana to relieve the horrible aftereffects of chemotherapy or the pain of a chronic disease?  

I could go on, but hopefully you see my point.  Unless yours is a tiny little church where a handful of people know each other very well, you most likely DO have members who are actual practicing sinners.  It seems blatantly unfair therefore to discriminate against homosexuals just because the "sin" they supposedly committ is more visible than the sins of others.    

Why focus at all on the sins of your members?  Focus instead on supporting one another on your faith journey's and treating one another as Jesus would treat you himself.  Worry about your own sins and relationship with God instead of getting into your neighbors private lives.  

And for the record, pediphilia is against the law.  There can be no question that people who hurt children are digusting, evil criminals.  But the last time I checked, homosexuality is not against the law.  Homosexuals do not deserve to be compared to pedophiles any time, one has nothing to do with the other.  

The sad fact about most homosexuals is that they were seduced for that first sexual experience.  Not molested, but seduced.  The main agenda of a homosexual is that the world become homosexual.  They have been seduced by Satan in that when they were seduced by the homosexual, usually a pedophile, that first sexual experience was permanently set on their sexual register.  Usually, they spend years trying to recapture the rapture of that first sexual experience.  That is why homosexuality is so insidious and growing so rapidly.  We are being fooled into thinking our kids are in danger of other things and homosexuality is growing by leaps and bounds because your child is under attack by the homosexual community.  Believe it or not, it's the truth.  Check it out. All you have to do is pay attention how the television shows are pushing it in more and more every season.  Most celebrities have to go along with it or be ostracized.  It's a sad thing because it is bringing down our country.  I truly believe it, because I'm witnessing it. 

Getting yourself out of it is another story for which I have no answer, thank God, I never walked through that door. Whew! 

The sad fact about most homosexuals is that they were seduced for that first sexual experience.  Not molested, but seduced.  The main agenda of a homosexual is that the world become homosexual.  They have been seduced by Satan in that when they were seduced by the homosexual, usually a pedophile, that first sexual experience was permanently set on their sexual register.  Usually, they spend years trying to recapture the rapture of that first sexual experience.  That is why homosexuality is so insidious and growing so rapidly.  We are being fooled into thinking our kids are in danger of other things and homosexuality is growing by leaps and bounds because your child is under attack by the homosexual community.  Believe it or not, it's the truth.  Check it out. All you have to do is pay attention how the television shows are pushing it in more and more every season.  Most celebrities have to go along with it or be ostracized.  It's a sad thing because it is bringing down our country.  I truly believe it, because I'm witnessing it. 

Getting yourself out of it is another story for which I have no answer, thank God, I never walked through that door. Whew! 

The sad fact about most homosexuals is that they were seduced for that first sexual experience.  Not molested, but seduced.  The main agenda of a homosexual is that the world become homosexual.  They have been seduced by Satan in that when they were seduced by the homosexual, usually a pedophile, that first sexual experience was permanently set on their sexual register.  Usually, they spend years trying to recapture the rapture of that first sexual experience.  That is why homosexuality is so insidious and growing so rapidly.  We are being fooled into thinking our kids are in danger of other things and homosexuality is growing by leaps and bounds because your child is under attack by the homosexual community.  Believe it or not, it's the truth.  Check it out. All you have to do is pay attention how the television shows are pushing it in more and more every season.  Most celebrities have to go along with it or be ostracized.  It's a sad thing because it is bringing down our country.  I truly believe it, because I'm witnessing it. 

Getting yourself out of it is another story for which I have no answer, thank God, I never walked through that door. Whew!