Topic : 06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"

 "And, since you cant ever fully understand what it means to be gay and live that lifestyle, you cannot come on a forum and have an opinion...your opinions are baseless. " 

It is always a little scary to me that in this day and age someone will tell you that you cannot have an opinion.  I was going to say, 'that in this day and age here in America someone will tell you, that you cannot have an opinion ' but then I read that you are a Canadian.  (No offense to Canadians - my grandmother was born in Canada.)  We here in the good old USA have the right of free speech.  That right does not extend to yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater or slandering someone ... but it certainly extends to the posters on this board being able to express an opinion about what is discussed and brought up on this board. 

You can always do this:  ... don't like a post, skip it ... think it's baseless,don't respond.  You can even be the opinion police and deem what opinions you deem worthy, suppotive, what have you.  I may not like what you or someone else has to say .. but I'll defend your right to say it.   

I am  more concerned about the idea that someone would want to squelch opinions about sexuality, christianity, experimentation, etc. than I would be about the people who express opinions on this board from all walks of life. 

If you have Canadian roots, you should also know that we too have the right to free speech. I personally feel like I am more free to speak my mind here than I ever would be in many places in the US. At least I've never been told by a Canadian that I am going to hell.  

To my fellow Canuck: Actually the homosexuals did paint a tiny part of the country in rainbow colours. The steps of the Vancouver City Hall were painted in rainbow stripes for Gay Pride Day this summer! I thought it was pretty. Other than that though, nothing has changed.  

I struggled with homosexuality until I was 28 years old - well with over 100 men during that time. I was in love with another man who was going to be my long term partner until I left it all in 1992. 

Today, I am happily married 12 years to the most beutiful woman in the world. We are the proud parents of two, beautiful children - a boy and a girl. 

As a Christian, homosexuality or same-sex attraction is NOT a choice. Just as heterosexual individuals do not CHOOSE to be attracted to the opposite sex, the same must be said for same-sex attracted people. 

However, I also believe NO ONE is born homosexual. Mountains of research show homosexuality tragically develops early on in one's childhood due to many different factors. 

In any case, ALL INDIVIDUALS deserve love and respect. Yet REAL love is to share the truth with them. Homosexual individuals CAN completely change their attractions. I am one of numerous individuals who are living proof of this. 

Today, I have the REAL thing. I am the heterosexual man I was created to be -- and I have never been more happier, fulfilled and affirmed in who I really am. 

I meant that just because the original author was Canadian - did not mean that I surmised that other Canadians felt the same way about opinions being expressed, nor did it mean that they were ignorant of the freedom of speech.   

Yes, I did find happiness. I didn't go through any programs, no conversion, just fell in love with the woman of my dreams. 

Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God"...  

The problem with this quotation is that you took it from an English translation of the Bible, and not the Bible itself, which is not written in English (Despite the beliefs of many in this country, Jesus - and Paul- didn't speak English).  The Bible you read is translated to you by people who have an agenda to sell you - and that agenda today includes speaking out against homosexuals.  Notice in older versions of the English Bible, there is no mention of homosexuality, including in that specific verse.  In the time that the Bible was written there was no word for the concept of a homosexual relationship.  The word that is now translated to you to mean homosexual means to describe a situation where an older man would pay money for sex with a younger child, either male or female.  In other words, a pedophile.  Homosexuals are not pedophiles, the two have nothing in common.  I am just as outraged as the next person when children are taken advantage of in such horrible dispicable ways.  However, that has nothing to do with a stable, loving relationship between two consenting adults, whatever their genders may be. 

There is no mention in the Bible about homosexuals ~ only words for pedophiles, that are mistranslated today to spread an agenda against decent citizens who are no different than anyone else.  The disservice that is being done to us is despicable, I don't understand how U.S. citizens can fall for such bologna. 

For some odd reason, when the King James Version Bible translators encountered the Greek word "pneuma' (spirit) modified by the adjective "hagio" (holy), they did not translate "pneuma" as "Spirit" but as "Ghost." Out of 97 times where the word "ghost" appears in the KJV New Testament, only six of them have to do with a human spirit and each case, the person dies. But, besides those 97 times that "pneuma" appears, there are 253 more times it shows up.  

We don't speak Jacobean (King James English) as a country anymore. There is no such thing as a "Metropolitian Gay Church." The Universal Fellowship of the Metropolitan Community Church, aka MCC, is NOT a "gay church." It is a Christian Church denomination which does not limit its membership nor it leaders to those of homosexual orientation. MCC has ordained ministers and pastors who are exclusively heterosexual in their sexual orientation.  

People who are ignorant about the history of how the Bible came to be a collection of writings covering several hundred years, with the writings therein not being written after 95 AD, and the fact that those books for the New Testament were not finally put into a collection with the books of the OT Testament and accepted as official canon until 397 AD. Notice that three hundred and two years elapsed from 95 AD when Revelation was written and all of those books which also included the Apocrapha as well as what is in English version Bibles printed in America. The Original King James Version of the Bible had the very same books that the Roman Catholic Bible had and still has. All KJV Bibles printed in United Kingdom Countries still have the same number of books as the original KJV had.  

The person who wrote what is in the quote to which I am responding is committing the sin of judging people and he or she is accusing the other person of supposedly unconfessed sin.