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Topic : 12/29 "Is This Normal?"

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(Original Airdate 10/24/05) Do you have a really strange habit? Are you in a bizarre situation and think you’re the only one experiencing it? Monica and Joe call each other names like "fat ass" and "ugly." They love their bad banter, but wonder if it's influencing their young children in a negative way. Then, Mary's husband had a liver transplant, and his medical bills are putting a strain on their marriage. Is it normal for her to resent the financial burden, or is she just being selfish? Plus, a new mom wonders how to raise her 4-month-old with her nudist fiance. Talk about the show here.

 

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October 24, 2005, 3:31 pm PDT

How dare that woman be resentful

How dare she!!! I lost my husband 13 months ago and i would spend evey dime I have to have hime back here. I did spend most of all that we had to keep him here as long as possible. I spent savings potential and left myself and 6 kids in the poor house just to keep him with some modicum of quality of life, and to help him fight as hard as he could. I would sell everything and live in a tent to have my husband here with me and our family. I do not think this woman values her husband at all and he certainly should not value her. 

 
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October 24, 2005, 3:32 pm PDT

The Book of Ruth in the Old Testament

I guess I was paying attention many years ago when I went to Sunday school.  

It might be of comfort to the daughter to know that it was a requirement in biblical times for the brother of the deceased  to marry the widow. 

I am definitely  not  a very religious person, but this trivia information stuck in my mind. 

I wish you could send this on to the daughter if you do a follow-up. 

  

 
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October 24, 2005, 3:34 pm PDT

Count your blessings insted of your money d

I just finished watching todays show and am highly upset about the woman's attitude toward her husband and the bills from his ilness. I think he needs to kick her to the curb and find someone with a heart that would appriciate the fact that he is alive and doing well and not worried about what it took to get hime there. I sat here and cried the whole time because my heart hurt so badly for him. If you truely love someone, money, where you have to live, and what you have to do without really should be the least of your concerns. On May 15, 2005 my husband rode his harley to the bank. A trip that usually only takes 30 minutes. On his way home a pickup truck pulled from a side road in front of him. He lost control, slid several feet, and was thrown several more feet. In a matter of a few seconds, our lives changed forever. Besides breaking several bones, he suffered a tramatic brain injury, had brain surgeries, and now has a vp shunt to keep his brain from swelling because it can't re obsorve the fluid it produces. To make a long story short,  the person that left that day is gone for now and I'm not sure he will ever be home. He doesn't know how old he is, his address or phone number, or alot of other things about his life. He isn't the person that left that day, and I'm not sure that person will ever be home again, but never the less, the person I brought home is still my husband to me. His doctor, hospital, and rehab bills are over one million dollars now. We have lost almost everything material in the life. We live in a mobile home and are down to one car. We may end up living in a camper or in that car if something don't happen soon, but guess what.........I can honesty say THANK GOD HE SURVIVED AND HE'S HOME! I can't see how anyone who loves somebody could even be concerned about anything else!!!!  

P. S. Two years ago i had a double mascetomy, and my husband was by my side all the way through so i know what Dr. Phil was saying, and that was just the last of my major surgeries, not the first of which he was there for me. 

 
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October 24, 2005, 3:35 pm PDT

Sadddened by selfishness

I am a 41 year old woman who has worked since the age of 15. In March of 2002 I had a silly accident in which I hit my head on a brick wall. One missed step cost me my old life. I am now mentally disabled and will never be able to work again. If it was not for the love and help of my husband and kids, I would be lost. I have short term memory loss which means I can't remember things after only a few hours. They have gone above and beyond their responsibilty towards me and it took along time to learn to live again, it is just a different type of life now. I am not allowed to participate in so many things I used to enjoy and my family has helped me to learn that there are other things that I can do for enjoyment. So please remember, it wasn't the victims fault or the injured or sick person. Things just happen.
 
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October 24, 2005, 3:37 pm PDT

If You Think His Wife Was Insensitive...

After being a devoted, and nurturing husband for 30 years, planning all of our finances around my wife, and OUR retirement. After staying home, as a complete "househusband", who was totally involved raising two very healthy, and successful, loving children, at the same time totally involved in the community; AND After my health has degenerated dramatically - I may just have a short time to live. My wife, who had never given herself to me emotionally...tells me she never loved me and our marriage must end....I agree; I've HAD IT! Have no source of income, no security in my life....My wife skips cheerfully off like a junior high schooler, who just broke up with a boyfriend, saying, "Well, people get divorced all of the time...and they just get over it!" I wasn't worth anything to her anymore...certainly not even the few dollars to restore my life after three fatal heart attacks....with my life now shattered...just how do I "start over" ???
 
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October 24, 2005, 3:37 pm PDT

10/24 "Is This Normal?"

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It is difficult for me to relate because of course, in Canada, people with medical misfortunes aren't saddled with unmanagable debt. I think that is an unfortunate aspect of American culture that losing your house is the expected result from getting sick. 

  

I did notice that in Mary's segment she indicated that she expected her marriage to be a step up not down.  I thought that was a very telling comment.  If she just married him for financial reasons, I can understand her distress when the payoff wasn't there.  In her favour, I would hate to have bills I couldn't pay and I would change everything in my life to pay them (yes, I would live in a trailer).  But if the bills are simply out of reach, bankrupcy can be the answer.   

I was left with a lot of unanswered questions on that one.  Like didn't he have a full-time job, because if he did, shouldn't his insurance have paid for it?  Maybe not, but I'd think so.  They didn't talk about their employment at all.  So I wonder, was he working, was she working, is he still working, is she still working, do they have kids to put through college.  It's hard for me to picture her as any sort of gold digger when I look at their little house.  That was a little starter house if ever there was one.  One thing that I'd also like to know is if selling their house would actually put them into some money or just cost them more.  Like with me, I'm in something a little bigger than theirs but still old, and I got it several years ago and there's no way I could rent a house that wouldn't cost way more than my house payment, so that wouldn't really free up any money in my case, and I bet not in theirs either.  Maybe they could save some by living in a really small apartment.  Or not.  That was really a small and old house.  So any changes there might only cost them more money.  So she might have a valid point there.  I'm surprised they had any money in the bank at all judging by where they were living, which was frugal.  Most of us certainly do not.  And no one discussed the possibility of them both getting a second job, which is what I have had to do just to survive at all.  That's seems to me the obvious solution, keep the house and both get a second job.  The other thing is they might consider bankruptcy, which is what most poor people saddled with medical debt worth more than them and their possessions ends up doing.   I know, because I transcribe depositions for a living.
 
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October 24, 2005, 3:39 pm PDT

Your Decision

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Dear Dr. Phil, 

I was shocked, when I heard the wife say she was resentful of the bills she pays for her husbands life saving liver surgery.  I wish she could understand how difficult it is to give the gift of life, at a time when you are so distraught over the lose of a loved one and you asked to donate their organs to save someone you don't even know.  It is the most difficult thing I have ever had to do and when I did it, I thought that the recipients would be grateful, to hear her say she was resentful hurts in a way that is unexplainable.  It makes me feel that my choice to give my son's organs to save someone was unappreciative, how could she be so heartless? 

Please, please do not resent donating your son's organs. 

  

I had a liver transplant just over one year ago.  I am 24 years old.  My body has accepted the liver and everything physically is okay, and I am ever-so-grateful to the people who donated this organ to me.  It is a gift that I will never take for granted. 

  

I struggle because I don't know why God chose me over the other person to live.  I know my life is no better or worse than the person who had to die for me to live, and I think about my donor and his/her family almost every day.  I pray for them, and I will pray for you.  I pray that God will give you peace about your decision to donate your son's organs. 

  

I don't know how that woman could be so heartless and selfish.  I am so angry to hear her talk about money when she has no idea what her husband may be struggling with.  He makes jokes about his transplant and so do I, but sometimes it's to hide the pain that I feel. 

  

From an organ recipient, thank you so much for your gift.   

 
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October 24, 2005, 3:40 pm PDT

God be with you

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I just finished watching todays show and am highly upset about the woman's attitude toward her husband and the bills from his ilness. I think he needs to kick her to the curb and find someone with a heart that would appriciate the fact that he is alive and doing well and not worried about what it took to get hime there. I sat here and cried the whole time because my heart hurt so badly for him. If you truely love someone, money, where you have to live, and what you have to do without really should be the least of your concerns. On May 15, 2005 my husband rode his harley to the bank. A trip that usually only takes 30 minutes. On his way home a pickup truck pulled from a side road in front of him. He lost control, slid several feet, and was thrown several more feet. In a matter of a few seconds, our lives changed forever. Besides breaking several bones, he suffered a tramatic brain injury, had brain surgeries, and now has a vp shunt to keep his brain from swelling because it can't re obsorve the fluid it produces. To make a long story short,  the person that left that day is gone for now and I'm not sure he will ever be home. He doesn't know how old he is, his address or phone number, or alot of other things about his life. He isn't the person that left that day, and I'm not sure that person will ever be home again, but never the less, the person I brought home is still my husband to me. His doctor, hospital, and rehab bills are over one million dollars now. We have lost almost everything material in the life. We live in a mobile home and are down to one car. We may end up living in a camper or in that car if something don't happen soon, but guess what.........I can honesty say THANK GOD HE SURVIVED AND HE'S HOME! I can't see how anyone who loves somebody could even be concerned about anything else!!!!  

P. S. Two years ago i had a double mascetomy, and my husband was by my side all the way through so i know what Dr. Phil was saying, and that was just the last of my major surgeries, not the first of which he was there for me. 

I also have had a severe accident which I have brain damage. It has been 3 years since my accident. I have short term memory loss, seizures and take so much medicine I get tired sometimes. Just stay strong and loving and pray that he may someday become the person you once knew. It took me 3 years to learn most things but stay with it.
 
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October 24, 2005, 3:41 pm PDT

10/24 "Is This Normal?"

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I just finished watching todays show and am highly upset about the woman's attitude toward her husband and the bills from his ilness. I think he needs to kick her to the curb and find someone with a heart that would appriciate the fact that he is alive and doing well and not worried about what it took to get hime there. I sat here and cried the whole time because my heart hurt so badly for him. If you truely love someone, money, where you have to live, and what you have to do without really should be the least of your concerns. On May 15, 2005 my husband rode his harley to the bank. A trip that usually only takes 30 minutes. On his way home a pickup truck pulled from a side road in front of him. He lost control, slid several feet, and was thrown several more feet. In a matter of a few seconds, our lives changed forever. Besides breaking several bones, he suffered a tramatic brain injury, had brain surgeries, and now has a vp shunt to keep his brain from swelling because it can't re obsorve the fluid it produces. To make a long story short,  the person that left that day is gone for now and I'm not sure he will ever be home. He doesn't know how old he is, his address or phone number, or alot of other things about his life. He isn't the person that left that day, and I'm not sure that person will ever be home again, but never the less, the person I brought home is still my husband to me. His doctor, hospital, and rehab bills are over one million dollars now. We have lost almost everything material in the life. We live in a mobile home and are down to one car. We may end up living in a camper or in that car if something don't happen soon, but guess what.........I can honesty say THANK GOD HE SURVIVED AND HE'S HOME! I can't see how anyone who loves somebody could even be concerned about anything else!!!!  

P. S. Two years ago i had a double mascetomy, and my husband was by my side all the way through so i know what Dr. Phil was saying, and that was just the last of my major surgeries, not the first of which he was there for me. 

MESSAGE TO DR PHIL, regarding a guest on today’s “do you think this is normal” show: 

After being a devoted, and nurturing husband for 30 years, planning all of our finances around my wife, and OUR retirement. After staying home, as a complete "househusband", who was totally involved raising two very healthy, and successful, loving children, at the same time totally involved in the community; AND After my health has degenerated dramatically - I may just have a short time to live. My wife, who had never given herself to me emotionally...tells me she never loved me and our marriage must end....I agree; I've HAD IT! Have no source of income, no security in my life....My wife skips cheerfully off like a junior high schooler, who just broke up with a boyfriend, saying, "Well, people get divorced all of the time...and they just get over it!" I wasn't worth anything to her anymore...certainly not even the few dollars to restore my life after three fatal heart attacks....with my life now shattered...just how do I "start over" ??? 

 
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October 24, 2005, 3:42 pm PDT

10/24 "Is This Normal?"

Quote From: reckel

Dear Dr. Phil, 

I was shocked, when I heard the wife say she was resentful of the bills she pays for her husbands life saving liver surgery.  I wish she could understand how difficult it is to give the gift of life, at a time when you are so distraught over the lose of a loved one and you asked to donate their organs to save someone you don't even know.  It is the most difficult thing I have ever had to do and when I did it, I thought that the recipients would be grateful, to hear her say she was resentful hurts in a way that is unexplainable.  It makes me feel that my choice to give my son's organs to save someone was unappreciative, how could she be so heartless? 

I agree that this woman's selfishness is outrageous.  

  

I work for an OPO (organ procurement organization) and can't believe what this woman said. The only thing that makes me feel better is that her husband (the recipient) seems really grateful. Please don't think that all recipient family members are like this.  

  

I work with donor families and really wish Dr. Phil would have touched on the point that someone gave this gift of life to this recipient. He really should have mentioned the donor.  

  

Thank you for sharing the gift of life during such a terrible time. You and your family are in my thoughts. 

 
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