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(Original Airdate 10/24/05) Do you have a really strange habit? Are you in a bizarre situation and think you’re the only one experiencing it? Monica and Joe call each other names like "fat ass" and "ugly." They love their bad banter, but wonder if it's influencing their young children in a negative way. Then, Mary's husband had a liver transplant, and his medical bills are putting a strain on their marriage. Is it normal for her to resent the financial burden, or is she just being selfish? Plus, a new mom wonders how to raise her 4-month-old with her nudist fiance. Talk about the show here.

 

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December 29, 2005, 7:22 pm PST

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I sent a note to Dr. Phil before I even saw the whole show and I just wanted to say, that the woman that doesn't want to deal with the situation resulting from her husbands transplant should be thankful she has her husband today.  Regardless of what they have to go through.  I would give anything to have my husband here today if he could have made it through his transplant surgery.  I would have sold everything and given anything to have just one more day with him.  I hope she gets a clue of what is truly important in life.

Ithere was something wrong I was lucky Ihad aliver transplant a year ago my wife and kids support me there is so much to say about support i am very sorry for your loss it dose sound like you have your head togather life is short if i could help   will try PFN 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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December 29, 2005, 7:35 pm PST

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I enjoyed tonite's program.  I thought through the situations, tried to see 'em all from both sides, and got some great insights.  I also got to wondering if my own situation is "normal". 

  

I'm a single dad, divorced almost two years.  My daughter really doesn't want to talk to or spend time with her mom, so she's with me most of the time.  I'm not complaining- I enjoy being her dad, I love spending time with her, and really appreciate this opportunity to help her get ready for the rest of her life.  The thing is that I'm not dating at all.  I'm really not interested in getting into a relationship like my last one, and I'm not sure that any woman would want to date someone who spends so much time either working or just trying to be a good dad that there isn't much time left for anything else.  I don't think it'd be right to ask someone to become the number 2 girl in my life (my daughter will come first until she's on her own way).  Truthfully, I don't really miss dating all that much.  There was always a lot of pressure to look right and act right (but then again, the last time I dated was about 17 years ago).  When my daughter spends the night with a friend (usually decided at the last minute) I go out to eat, read at home, see a movie or go out and listen to music.  I do get lonely for adult companionship once in awhile, but the lonliness goes away in a few minutes- especially if my daughter gives me a hug or tells me she loves me.  That makes it all seem worthwhile. 

  

Is it normal to not be dating, and not miss it?  Any thoughts appreciated. 

Happy Holidays everyone! 

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December 29, 2005, 8:15 pm PST

transplant lady

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I should of said hubby died of fibrosis of the lungs, but that gal had me so upset about her greed of money for medical bills for her husbands transplant.

   Dear transplant lady - and all other viewers - 

     I must say that I was bit surprised by your viewpoint.  It did come across as cold and heartless - yes- even greedy that you wouldn't be willing to give everything for your husband and that you felt he should take care of his problem( he was the one that got sick, etc....).  Then I listened some more and heard you saying something else, it was as if you were overwhelmed by the strain you are under.  You didn't say you no longer loved your husband - just that you would like his help/input with the bills.  They can really mount up and be a terrible load to carry by yourself.  I truly am grateful that  you and your husband had the blessing of a liver transplant.  You've been through a lot.  Hang in there.  Take each day - one day at a time .  cherish the time you have with him.  It would be so sad if he wasn't around with you and the family for a long time.  Make memories that you will have no regrets about.  Love each other, as life is a gift ,and we only have this moment. 

   Almost two years ago, my father underwent a heart transplant.  Wow!  I do understand some of the financial strain this can put on a person.  I wouldn't trade any of that for the extra time I've been given with him.  He was even healthy enough  to walk me down the aisle for my own wedding this past May.  What a treasure!!!!  And to get to spend the holidays with him and to visit him as often as we can - I know I am truly blessed for the extra time that has been given to him in this most generous of all gifts.  The gift of  life by organ donation.  Someone else had to die and willed his organs to others, that my dad might live today. 

     I would like to take a moment to challenge all of you readers to seriously think about being an organ donor.  The process is easy and yet is so very valuable to hundreds and thousands of people, sick, dying and in desperate need of lifesaving organ donors.  I never wanted to be a donor until my dad went through it.  If I can ever give life ( or help the quality of someone else's life) by donating any of my organs  - I gladly will.  I am glad to say I am now signed up to be an organ donor and have even told my husband of my wishes.  I look at it this way.  I will no longer be alive ( for most organ donations the donor is deceased), and therefore it won't matter to me.  I'll just decay and rot away in the ground anyway.  But, if by some chance I can help someone else live - then I say yes and gladly.  May your life live on through my organs.  As I said, the process is really easy, all I did, when I renewed my license . was I said yes, and filled out the form.  they even put organ donor on my drivers license to let others know if I'm ever killed in an accident.   

     Please, take a moment today to really consider the gift of life you may be giving to someone else.  Do it!!!!  It may  even be someone in your own family that is in need of a donated organ.  Sincerely, Julie D. 

 
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December 29, 2005, 8:18 pm PST

Hello

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I enjoyed tonite's program.  I thought through the situations, tried to see 'em all from both sides, and got some great insights.  I also got to wondering if my own situation is "normal". 

  

I'm a single dad, divorced almost two years.  My daughter really doesn't want to talk to or spend time with her mom, so she's with me most of the time.  I'm not complaining- I enjoy being her dad, I love spending time with her, and really appreciate this opportunity to help her get ready for the rest of her life.  The thing is that I'm not dating at all.  I'm really not interested in getting into a relationship like my last one, and I'm not sure that any woman would want to date someone who spends so much time either working or just trying to be a good dad that there isn't much time left for anything else.  I don't think it'd be right to ask someone to become the number 2 girl in my life (my daughter will come first until she's on her own way).  Truthfully, I don't really miss dating all that much.  There was always a lot of pressure to look right and act right (but then again, the last time I dated was about 17 years ago).  When my daughter spends the night with a friend (usually decided at the last minute) I go out to eat, read at home, see a movie or go out and listen to music.  I do get lonely for adult companionship once in awhile, but the lonliness goes away in a few minutes- especially if my daughter gives me a hug or tells me she loves me.  That makes it all seem worthwhile. 

  

Is it normal to not be dating, and not miss it?  Any thoughts appreciated. 

Happy Holidays everyone! 

WhipsawJim 

Well it sounds like you have a good relationship with your daughter which is really good.   

I think it is normal to be not dateing and not miss it. It's how you feel. Others may feel different. But were all different and in that were all the same. And if thats the life you want then all the power to you. As they say "to each his own". If you want to date then go for it if not then don't. But if you are going to date disscuss it with your daughter. It may shock her a bit and she may get upset that she might be able to spend as much time with you as she did before.  

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December 29, 2005, 8:21 pm PST

Lil sister

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Im 15 and of course im not married and dont have kids, but my family isnt close at all. We get together one time a year at christmas time. ANd every christmas my uncle always just has something rude to say to me. For example this chirstmas. Well before chrstms i got a perm on my hair. nd on sunday he kept saying omg your so ugly. Ugly. Ugly. Ugly. Ugly. Ugly. And on and on and on. And it realy hurts. I dont know if is suposed to be a joke or if hes serious. It realy hruts and he ket syaing it at the dinner table and i just wnated to cry but of course i held it in i didnt wat to ruin there christmas. But everyone just looks at him when he says it. I dont know how tyo tell him it really hurts. But he looks so serious when he says it, i feel like he hates me, he always gives me the cold sholder. But the people on dr.phil also look seruous to.. soo im not sure wat do u think? 

Next time your uncle calls you ugly or says anything derogatory about you, don't take it personal, this person has a bigger problem than you do having him as an uncle. If I were you, next time he said you were ugly...tell him "that's funny because people tell me I look just like you."
 
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December 29, 2005, 8:37 pm PST

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 I try to be a compassionate person, but it is hard to find any sympathy for Mary.  No matter how much stress she has been under, there is no excuse for the way she is treating her husband. Other the emotion field at the top, there needs to be a place for shocked, because her attitude was absolutely shocking!!  I believe difficult situations, especially life or death ones, should make a person consider the state of their life, and to enjoy each moment.  I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT SAW!  She appeared to have no feelings of gratitude, of a life spared, of a chance to spend more time together with her mate.  As a mother who lost her firstborn son at 15 days, there is no limit to what I would have done to have had him with me longer - I would have laid down my life for him - finances were my least concern - keeping him alive and with me was my only concern.  Bills can wait, life can't.   As a divorced mom, I would be more than grateful to find a kind, loving man like her husband, and would appreciate every moment with him.  I'm sure there are many other women who be happy to have a man like him as well.  He deserves better than some mean-spirited woman making him feel bad for being alive.  Selfish doesn't begin to describe her - there is no word to describe her - that is why no one can think of an adequate one.  I am sure she is stressed and emotionally upset and afraid, but that is still no excuse for her behavior and her coldness.   There are many widows out there who would give anything to have one more minute with their mate - how could she not appreciate every minute?  It is a gift from God - who is watching, by the way.  As someone said in an earlier post, what goes around, comes around.  She needs to do some serious soul searching - to see if she can find hers, for starters.  Her husband would be better off alone than with someone who resents the problems his illness has caused!  

As I said in the beginning, I am usually very compassionate and understanding, and for me to be this upset, it has to be pretty bad.  Watching this truly made me sick! 

 
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December 29, 2005, 8:47 pm PST

12/29 "Is This Normal?"

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I enjoyed tonite's program.  I thought through the situations, tried to see 'em all from both sides, and got some great insights.  I also got to wondering if my own situation is "normal". 

  

I'm a single dad, divorced almost two years.  My daughter really doesn't want to talk to or spend time with her mom, so she's with me most of the time.  I'm not complaining- I enjoy being her dad, I love spending time with her, and really appreciate this opportunity to help her get ready for the rest of her life.  The thing is that I'm not dating at all.  I'm really not interested in getting into a relationship like my last one, and I'm not sure that any woman would want to date someone who spends so much time either working or just trying to be a good dad that there isn't much time left for anything else.  I don't think it'd be right to ask someone to become the number 2 girl in my life (my daughter will come first until she's on her own way).  Truthfully, I don't really miss dating all that much.  There was always a lot of pressure to look right and act right (but then again, the last time I dated was about 17 years ago).  When my daughter spends the night with a friend (usually decided at the last minute) I go out to eat, read at home, see a movie or go out and listen to music.  I do get lonely for adult companionship once in awhile, but the lonliness goes away in a few minutes- especially if my daughter gives me a hug or tells me she loves me.  That makes it all seem worthwhile. 

  

Is it normal to not be dating, and not miss it?  Any thoughts appreciated. 

Happy Holidays everyone! 

WhipsawJim 

Hi.  I had to reply to your message, because you pretty much just described me.  Except that I am a female mother of 3.  My life is so full with my job and my children that I don't see how I could include a relationship at  this time in my life.  The few times I've gone out have been so much work getting a babysitter, etc., that I would have rather just stayed home.   Also, the men I have dated, although good men, and dads, want more time and attention than I could give.  This was not unfair of them, absolutely normal, but they only saw their children every other week-end, etc., and I have mine all the time.  It isn't quite as easy to find free time for me as it is for them.  Even them calling me every night interfered with bedtime routines.  I say this to tell you that I think it's okay in the phase of life we are in to put a relationship on hold.  I honestly don't see how I could devote the time to a relationship that it would need without taking away from my children, so it is something I have put away for the future.  Like you, I get lonely for adult companionship at times, but I think it is the only solution for me right now.   Take heart and enjoy your child - our time with them certainly goes fast, doesn't it?
 
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December 29, 2005, 8:51 pm PST

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   Dear transplant lady - and all other viewers - 

     I must say that I was bit surprised by your viewpoint.  It did come across as cold and heartless - yes- even greedy that you wouldn't be willing to give everything for your husband and that you felt he should take care of his problem( he was the one that got sick, etc....).  Then I listened some more and heard you saying something else, it was as if you were overwhelmed by the strain you are under.  You didn't say you no longer loved your husband - just that you would like his help/input with the bills.  They can really mount up and be a terrible load to carry by yourself.  I truly am grateful that  you and your husband had the blessing of a liver transplant.  You've been through a lot.  Hang in there.  Take each day - one day at a time .  cherish the time you have with him.  It would be so sad if he wasn't around with you and the family for a long time.  Make memories that you will have no regrets about.  Love each other, as life is a gift ,and we only have this moment. 

   Almost two years ago, my father underwent a heart transplant.  Wow!  I do understand some of the financial strain this can put on a person.  I wouldn't trade any of that for the extra time I've been given with him.  He was even healthy enough  to walk me down the aisle for my own wedding this past May.  What a treasure!!!!  And to get to spend the holidays with him and to visit him as often as we can - I know I am truly blessed for the extra time that has been given to him in this most generous of all gifts.  The gift of  life by organ donation.  Someone else had to die and willed his organs to others, that my dad might live today. 

     I would like to take a moment to challenge all of you readers to seriously think about being an organ donor.  The process is easy and yet is so very valuable to hundreds and thousands of people, sick, dying and in desperate need of lifesaving organ donors.  I never wanted to be a donor until my dad went through it.  If I can ever give life ( or help the quality of someone else's life) by donating any of my organs  - I gladly will.  I am glad to say I am now signed up to be an organ donor and have even told my husband of my wishes.  I look at it this way.  I will no longer be alive ( for most organ donations the donor is deceased), and therefore it won't matter to me.  I'll just decay and rot away in the ground anyway.  But, if by some chance I can help someone else live - then I say yes and gladly.  May your life live on through my organs.  As I said, the process is really easy, all I did, when I renewed my license . was I said yes, and filled out the form.  they even put organ donor on my drivers license to let others know if I'm ever killed in an accident.   

     Please, take a moment today to really consider the gift of life you may be giving to someone else.  Do it!!!!  It may  even be someone in your own family that is in need of a donated organ.  Sincerely, Julie D. 

I wanted to respond to the topic today about the woman being frustrated "working her ass off" when it is her "husband's problem."  I did not see the show personally, but read what was on the internet about today's show.  I was intrigued about this one when I saw the previews for it the day before.  My husband has had a very bad employment crisis for the last 2 years.   He was put in for a higher position, and as a result,  a couple human errors he made at work,  8 yrs. ago , prevented  him from being moved up into this position.  In addition, he lost his then current,  good job as well.  It was partially his own fault, BUT, he was unfairly condemned for the things that happened.  He was not working for a good while, experienced depression, and was not motivated to do much at all.   I began to panic and started working more hours.  When life changes so rapidly for the worse you tend to feel resentful.  I am sure this woman understands it was not her husband's fault that he needed the liver transplant.  They both need to understand how the other partner feels.  I saw a psychologist about what I could do to help my husband to motivate him to move forward.  He began seeing the doctor and things improved.  Get help.  Go see  a professional.  I do not think it is unusual for the wife to feel "cheated" in a way.  She is grieving the loss of the type of life they had together.  Is this not normal?  I sure hope the lady who was on the show reads this! 
 
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December 29, 2005, 9:15 pm PST

For better or until your sick . . .

The woman who is more concerned about the medical bill than her relationship with a seemingly "good man", can pass him on to me, bills and all. Unfortunately our society has really bought into "things" as defining who we are, and how accomplished we are. The bottom line is does he want to live with someone who is so materialistic. What happens if he gets sicker in the future??? He might want to explore that reality. Thanks for listening.
 
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December 29, 2005, 10:29 pm PST

12/29 "Is This Normal?"

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The woman who is more concerned about the medical bill than her relationship with a seemingly "good man", can pass him on to me, bills and all. Unfortunately our society has really bought into "things" as defining who we are, and how accomplished we are. The bottom line is does he want to live with someone who is so materialistic. What happens if he gets sicker in the future??? He might want to explore that reality. Thanks for listening.

Roger's wife is NOT materialistic, she's overwhelmed with debt, worry and frustration. Roger does not appear to be helping with much and he looks pretty good now.   l live with a transplant recipient and it IS a horrible thing to choose between eating, paying the rent or paying for medications.  

 
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