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Topic : 10/26 More Sex With Kim Cattrall!

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She played the part of sexy “Samantha Jones” in the hit TV series Sex and the City. Now Kim Cattrall has written her second book about female sexuality. She joins Dr. Phil to help couples with questions achieve sexual satisfaction. Wayne and Erin were virgins when they got married. Now, two years later, Erin still isn't achieving the big "O."  Then, Tom wishes his wife, Kathy, would make some noise in the bedroom. She says she's just shy -- so why does she moan when she eats good food? Plus, he begs her to do it, but she thinks it's disgusting. Hear Dr. Phil's advice for an engaged couple facing oral sex issues. And, a married couple asks how to put the fire back in their sex life. This show is strictly adults only.

 

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October 29, 2005, 10:51 pm PDT

TO THE LDS COUPLE

HI, 

  

    I noticed that in the background of your wedding picture on the show was a temple.  I am going to assume that you are an LDS couple - along with both holding out until marrage.  As a fellow member, I know the rules attatched to this subject, and I know that a lot of what you were told on the show is not really acceptable.   

     I want you to know that when you two are alone in a bedroom - there are no rules.  My only sex advice would be this - I would say that he can't even begin the sex part until he has mastered you first.  The actual sex does nothing.  It has to come in different ways.  Don't lie about the way anything feels and RELAX.  Try to start the evening with candle light - a shower - a message - sexy music, and then don't be afraid to get a little outside of the box.   

      I believe that we are told to stay away from a lot of things because it's danerous to addiction, but in your case I do believe it is nessesary for you to find it for yourself - with the knowledge & OK of your husband and not in secret behind his back, I really don't think that you are doing anything wrong by discovering this.  Sometimes, in this life, we have to get a little outside of the book.  A life time without knowing is a lot worse and it's not fair at all to expect you to just live with it...  As long as it's just a discovery and then that's it, I wouldn't feel guilty or ashamed at all. 

  

Good Luck   

 
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October 30, 2005, 12:23 am PDT

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HI, 

  

    I noticed that in the background of your wedding picture on the show was a temple.  I am going to assume that you are an LDS couple - along with both holding out until marrage.  As a fellow member, I know the rules attatched to this subject, and I know that a lot of what you were told on the show is not really acceptable.   

     I want you to know that when you two are alone in a bedroom - there are no rules.  My only sex advice would be this - I would say that he can't even begin the sex part until he has mastered you first.  The actual sex does nothing.  It has to come in different ways.  Don't lie about the way anything feels and RELAX.  Try to start the evening with candle light - a shower - a message - sexy music, and then don't be afraid to get a little outside of the box.   

      I believe that we are told to stay away from a lot of things because it's danerous to addiction, but in your case I do believe it is nessesary for you to find it for yourself - with the knowledge & OK of your husband and not in secret behind his back, I really don't think that you are doing anything wrong by discovering this.  Sometimes, in this life, we have to get a little outside of the book.  A life time without knowing is a lot worse and it's not fair at all to expect you to just live with it...  As long as it's just a discovery and then that's it, I wouldn't feel guilty or ashamed at all. 

  

Good Luck   

It was good for me to see an LDS couple (I'm assuming) being honest about intimacy being important, and problems being important enough to you to come on national tv.I agree about not lying about feelings, ever.I agree that what was discussed on the show and muchly on these message boards is not part of what we believe to be a way to keep our chastity (i.e. masturbating or using videos or internet pictures to "help"). I'm not trying to be judgemental or self-righteous to anyone else out there, I'm simply being honest about our perspective of the sanctity of intimacy within marriage. My perspective is that sex is meant to be shared together, and therefore masturbating away from our spouse or using videos or other things to turn us on is a way of turning outside the marriage for problems inside the marriage.On the other hand, I also agree that I personally think that if there is some exploration when your husband is present, that may be a very important help, and is a way for you and your husband to still enjoy each other and possibly overcome your obstacle of not reaching orgasm. I also think that keeping in touch with a doctor about possibilities that are helpful aside from non-option suggestions, may be very helpful. There's a book called "The Act of Marriage" that was helpful to us when we first married. Also, lots of time and no pressure allows us to continue to re-define our love life as we have chosen to have 3 children since we were married over 8 years ago. It seems different periods of time change the flow of things, but one thing remains constant--we love each other and continue to "practice," often learning and finding new ways of touching each other that enhance our love life. After 8 years of marriage, I feel sex, or making love, is a very awesome part of marriage, and am grateful that we did remain chaste until we were married, as you did. It feels wonderful that there is only one person with whom I share myself with, that I waited and gave that gift to him, and him to me. I love the law of chastity. : ) Continue seeking to be able to have orgasm, but at the same time, keep it so low-key about what you expect, until you reach that point, or otherwise you'll feel dissapointed even over good loving and good foreplay and what we sometimes call "gentle love," meaning that sometimes we show more of a gentle expression that we love each other rather than that we really want to wow each other on a particular night. Anyway, good luck, and God bless.
 
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October 30, 2005, 6:58 am PST

RELATIONSHIPS ARE COMPLICATED.....

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EXCEPT FOR MEDICAL REASONS SIGNED BY A DOCTOR....A Sexless Marriage is a Dealbreaker.....  WHY MARRY THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?  It's like you are deceiving them.... making them think you feel the way they do and you don't.  Be their friend but DON'T MARRY THEM.  Join their Clubs to be their friend, BUT DON'T MARRY THEM!  Don't marry them for their money because you are not really marrying them, but marrying their money.  IF YOU DON'T LOVE THEM and ARE NOT PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO THEM  DON'T LIE DON'T MARRY THEM!  As I read some of your posts....  unless it's a medical issue for your husband..... I think he's getting it somewhere.  My husband has had a porn problem since the first 6 months of our marriage.... but that is the least of my problems.... and he also has a minister's license so add that to all this $%&*, but he doesn't Pastor a church but wants to. 

  

You know I read this book called:  An Affair of the Mind.  It was a great book about an African Missionaries son who at the age of 17 got mad at his parents for going to Africa to preach the gospel and he stole all this money from them.  Then he started going to strip joints 3 times per week and then married his sweet Christian wife and had some kids and kept going to strip joints and hookers 3 times a week and doing his thing.... You know I think it was 10 or 20 years before she found out and she starts out in the book getting an HIV test.... which thankfully was negative....  This guy was going to church every week and acting like the perfect Christian and EVERYONE WAS SHOCKED when it all came out....BUT THE MORAL OF THIS STORY is PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE and Most people have a desire to love and be loved.  If that need is not met.... You need to do some investigation..... and quit lying to yourself cuz it will bite you like a snake in the long run..... 

  

AND I HOPE ALL THOSE WITH THEIR VIRGINITY PAST AND PRESENT ARE READING THIS.  I don't want to pop your bubble but if you have a TV set, if you have cable, if you live in the same world I do..... then you are subject to this same moral disease... 

  

And the sad thing is the WITHHOLDER will WITHHOLD for years and then be mad when their spouse cheats and feel no guilt.... I THINK EXCEPT FOR A DOCTOR EXCUSE MEDICAL REASON... they need to quit pointing the finger and point it a little back at their selves..... 

  

RELATIONSHIPS TODAY ARE COMPLICATED WITH MULTIPLE PLACES TO PLACE BLAME..... 

**sigh** 

RELATIONSHIPS TODAY ARE COMPLICATED WITH MULTIPLE PLACES TO PLACE BLAME.....  

  

That is the most true thing you said - everyone is different, and it always was that way, except I guess now people have more socially accepted choices.  There is a wide range of "normal" as far as sex drives, and I'm sure it always was that way, except I think that years ago women were usually so dependent on their men that they just had to go along with what they wanted.  A sexless marriage may be a dealbreaker for some people, but I would hope that most people would be able to control themselves enough to take other things into consideration.  I don't think most couples that have problems with differences in sex drives realized before they got married that it was going to be such a problem.  Before two people get married, they are more likely to enjoy just making the other person feel good - there are less expectations and feelings of obligation.  The little annoying things the other person does haven't started to be annoying yet, and no one is keeping score of who does more for whom.  I don't think it's healthy for someone to insist on having sex with a person that they KNOW doesn't want to do it.  It will probably backfire on them because their partner is likely to want it less and less in the future.  If one person wants it more, they should consider it their responsibility to help the other person to WANT to do it more, without pressuring the other person AT ALL.  The person with the lower sex drive also has the responsibility to find out if there is a medical reason for the problem, and to communicate with their partner to let them know what they need.  The person with the lower sex drive also needs to make sure their partner knows that they love them.  Not wanting to have sex doesn't mean that you don't love your spouse. 

 
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October 30, 2005, 8:07 am PST

Priorities

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EXCEPT FOR MEDICAL REASONS SIGNED BY A DOCTOR....A Sexless Marriage is a Dealbreaker.....  WHY MARRY THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?  It's like you are deceiving them.... making them think you feel the way they do and you don't.  Be their friend but DON'T MARRY THEM.  Join their Clubs to be their friend, BUT DON'T MARRY THEM!  Don't marry them for their money because you are not really marrying them, but marrying their money.  IF YOU DON'T LOVE THEM and ARE NOT PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO THEM  DON'T LIE DON'T MARRY THEM!  As I read some of your posts....  unless it's a medical issue for your husband..... I think he's getting it somewhere.  My husband has had a porn problem since the first 6 months of our marriage.... but that is the least of my problems.... and he also has a minister's license so add that to all this $%&*, but he doesn't Pastor a church but wants to. 

  

You know I read this book called:  An Affair of the Mind.  It was a great book about an African Missionaries son who at the age of 17 got mad at his parents for going to Africa to preach the gospel and he stole all this money from them.  Then he started going to strip joints 3 times per week and then married his sweet Christian wife and had some kids and kept going to strip joints and hookers 3 times a week and doing his thing.... You know I think it was 10 or 20 years before she found out and she starts out in the book getting an HIV test.... which thankfully was negative....  This guy was going to church every week and acting like the perfect Christian and EVERYONE WAS SHOCKED when it all came out....BUT THE MORAL OF THIS STORY is PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE and Most people have a desire to love and be loved.  If that need is not met.... You need to do some investigation..... and quit lying to yourself cuz it will bite you like a snake in the long run..... 

  

AND I HOPE ALL THOSE WITH THEIR VIRGINITY PAST AND PRESENT ARE READING THIS.  I don't want to pop your bubble but if you have a TV set, if you have cable, if you live in the same world I do..... then you are subject to this same moral disease... 

  

And the sad thing is the WITHHOLDER will WITHHOLD for years and then be mad when their spouse cheats and feel no guilt.... I THINK EXCEPT FOR A DOCTOR EXCUSE MEDICAL REASON... they need to quit pointing the finger and point it a little back at their selves..... 

  

RELATIONSHIPS TODAY ARE COMPLICATED WITH MULTIPLE PLACES TO PLACE BLAME..... 

**sigh** 

  

I also want to say that if a person's priority is sex, above 

  

1 - The commitment they made to their spouse who may have loved them the best way that they could, and 

  

2 - The respect and possibly the well being of their children 

  

 -not to mention the promise they may have made to God when they said "I do." 

  

then I would say "Good Riddance!" 

 
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October 30, 2005, 4:33 pm PST

10/26 More Sex With Kim Cattrall!

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RELATIONSHIPS TODAY ARE COMPLICATED WITH MULTIPLE PLACES TO PLACE BLAME.....  

  

That is the most true thing you said - everyone is different, and it always was that way, except I guess now people have more socially accepted choices.  There is a wide range of "normal" as far as sex drives, and I'm sure it always was that way, except I think that years ago women were usually so dependent on their men that they just had to go along with what they wanted.  A sexless marriage may be a dealbreaker for some people, but I would hope that most people would be able to control themselves enough to take other things into consideration.  I don't think most couples that have problems with differences in sex drives realized before they got married that it was going to be such a problem.  Before two people get married, they are more likely to enjoy just making the other person feel good - there are less expectations and feelings of obligation.  The little annoying things the other person does haven't started to be annoying yet, and no one is keeping score of who does more for whom.  I don't think it's healthy for someone to insist on having sex with a person that they KNOW doesn't want to do it.  It will probably backfire on them because their partner is likely to want it less and less in the future.  If one person wants it more, they should consider it their responsibility to help the other person to WANT to do it more, without pressuring the other person AT ALL.  The person with the lower sex drive also has the responsibility to find out if there is a medical reason for the problem, and to communicate with their partner to let them know what they need.  The person with the lower sex drive also needs to make sure their partner knows that they love them.  Not wanting to have sex doesn't mean that you don't love your spouse. 

After I posted that I thought about that story with that one woman whose husband had an addiction to strippers and I want to clarify that I DON'T THINK IT IS HER FAULT.  I think it is something he got addicted to before the marriage and then since no one knew it got way out of hand.  I don't think withholding was the reason he was there or continued to be there.... He just had acquired a taste for that.  I mainly brought that up just to point out that EVEN THE BEST RAISED PERSON can get into trouble in a difficult situation to him.  Now difficult has different tolerance to different people.
Now you are discussing quantity in your post and I am not talking about quantity, but CHEMICAL ATTRACTION.  Now for example there are alot of nice looking people in Hollywood, but you or I am not necessarily CHEMICALLY ATTRACTED to everyone.  But they still could be very good looking just no chemical attraction..... And that's what I mean..... Some people marry someone THEY ARE NOT CHEMICALLY ATTRACTED TO and then the BOMB EXPLODES after the fact....*laugh*  Now some people will get over it and make the best of it.... BUT SOME PEOPLE WON'T!  And the other partner suffers....  I mean some people just marry for money......
 
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October 31, 2005, 6:16 am PST

It's hard to measure chemical attraction and not always possible to keep it

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After I posted that I thought about that story with that one woman whose husband had an addiction to strippers and I want to clarify that I DON'T THINK IT IS HER FAULT.  I think it is something he got addicted to before the marriage and then since no one knew it got way out of hand.  I don't think withholding was the reason he was there or continued to be there.... He just had acquired a taste for that.  I mainly brought that up just to point out that EVEN THE BEST RAISED PERSON can get into trouble in a difficult situation to him.  Now difficult has different tolerance to different people.
Now you are discussing quantity in your post and I am not talking about quantity, but CHEMICAL ATTRACTION.  Now for example there are alot of nice looking people in Hollywood, but you or I am not necessarily CHEMICALLY ATTRACTED to everyone.  But they still could be very good looking just no chemical attraction..... And that's what I mean..... Some people marry someone THEY ARE NOT CHEMICALLY ATTRACTED TO and then the BOMB EXPLODES after the fact....*laugh*  Now some people will get over it and make the best of it.... BUT SOME PEOPLE WON'T!  And the other partner suffers....  I mean some people just marry for money......

  

I see what you're saying, but I do think that you can start out chemically attracted, and then after being married to someone for a certain period of time you could lose that attraction.   One way that you could lose that attraction could be that the other person had a stronger sex drive and pressured you into it too often.  People also get married for lots of wrong reasons and don't necessarily realize they were the wrong reasons.  For instance, someone could be all excited that they found someone, and is so desperate to get out of the situation they are in (extreme loneliness, dependence on someone who abuses them, etc.) that they think they are in love and chemically attracted to someone who loves them and seems to be everything they want.  It's hard to measure "chemical attraction" and pretty easy to fool yourself sometimes.  That's one reason it is important to not get married too soon.  I do think that people who marry for money usually don't end up very happy.  They would have to have a much different idea about what is important in life than I do anyway.  Then again, if a person barely had the basic necessities to live and met someone with money who wanted to support them in exchange for something they could give them, and knew that it was that kind of trade-off - then I wouldn't judge them. 

  

  

 
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October 31, 2005, 9:07 am PST

Since he doesn't remember...

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I am working on getting him to break this habit...  AND I THINK THE WORST PART IS HE DOESN'T REMEMBER IT AT ALL.  I mean he tells people we don't have sex.  I honestly don't know if he does remember.  It may be just a dream to him.  It is not a dream to me cuz I am up about an hour after the fact cleaning or doing something else....  **laugh** but it is not emotional to me just a habit... you get usted to it.... kind of like blowing your nose or something like that.....  Now practically I could not work right?  but he wants the money too..... hmmmmmm  It is a trade off right ?

Maybe he won't remember if you "just say no."   Rule in our house is: We go to bed together and have a wonderful window of opportunity for great sex we can both enjoy.  

  

If you don't make some changes you'll find yourself happier sleeping alone.  

 
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October 31, 2005, 12:55 pm PST

Try talking about it

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ok i have a problem... i watched the show the other day and i was thinking ... 

ok i know most men want to have sex whenever they can, well mine doesnt, i pretty much have to force him to do it, and afterward he's mad because he obligated. For a while i didnt live with him so he'd come over on the weekends or i'd go to his place. And the sex was great! it was only once a week but hey i got it like every day through the week end well we just just moved back in together and now it's like two weeks before we can have sex, and it last like 2 sec. he gets off and thats it. Nothing for me!!! 

even if i meet him at the door when he comes home with just cute little lacey panties on. he totally ignores me sits down and watches tv, then he'll go to bed! nothing not even a kiss!! WHAT AM I TO DO?? 

Hmmm.. that's a tough one. My advice to you is to talk to him about it. Find a good time for the both of you (when no one is in a hurry to leave) and tell him how he is make you feel . Give examples of specific actions that have happened... for example, "When I answered came to bed in my sexy panties and bra and started kising you... Then you turned around and fell asleep".

Tell him things like that, because if he is anything like my fiance, he will say "I don't ignore you. When have I ignored you when you want to have sex??" then you'll have a good answer for him.

I actually almost had the same talk with my fiance last night about him not flirting or paying attention to me anymore. I didn't find the right time to talk though. He used to always flirt and want to have sex or fool around... or even just say "I want you.". But now I'm not getting any of that. All day yesterday and last night, I tried so hard to get him attention sexually... from put on sexy little clothes to kissing him and sitting on his lap when he was in the computer chair.... I got nothing. He would just go about his business.

I really hurts when someone you love does this... it makes you (or at least me) feel like I don't grab his attention anymore, like he finds nothing alluring about me. Which hurts when I used to feel like the light of his life.

So I know how you feel in this situation. I would just try to talk to him... that's what I am going to do. Let me know how it goes!

Best Wishes, 
Natalie
 
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October 31, 2005, 7:12 pm PST

try this

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I love to give my husband oral sex but I do not like to recieve it. He just isn't good at it and I am having the hardest ttime explaining what I want without sounding like he is dumb. Any suggestions? It's hard to figure out what works when everything he does is not good.
Have him do it once and tell him, try this or try that. I had to do that to my hubby to get it done the way I liked it. Everyone is different so you just have to teach eachother what you like. If you dont know get the Kama Sutra book and look at it together it has some tips in there to try. Good luck!!!!!!
 
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October 31, 2005, 7:17 pm PST

I agree

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Yes, your way of thinking is correct.   

Shelter your children, and by no means talk about silly issues like sex. 

I am sure at 13 and 15 years old, they hear and see nothing about sex.  And, I am sure they have no sexual feelings themselves.   

Get a grip!   

Being a Christian does not absolve you from being a good parent. 

Good parents will talk with their kids about sex. And, drugs,smoking, how to be financially responsible, how to be a loving-compassionate person, how to solve arguments, and the list goes on and on!  That is what good parenting is.  Talking to your children.  Not just once, but all of the time! 

Perhaps you could use a show like this to start a healthy discussion about sex with your children.  

Just because you believe in waiting until marriage and not shacking up, does not mean that your kids do not have their own ideas about these issues.  And, wouldn't you like to hear what they are thinking? 

Too many people in our society portray sex as "bad" or "harmful", and something not to be discussed.  Especially with children. 

This is crazy.  All humans are sexual beings.  Including children!  That is why it is so important to be able to have healthy discussions about sex, and to teach our children about sex.   

Education is the key to overcoming ignorance.  

Perhaps if we were all more open about sex and sexuality, we would not have so much sexual disfunction in our society.  (Rapes and child molestation increase year after year in our county!)Also, read some of the post on this site.  You will find a hundred different sexual problems from lack of desire, to divorce from lack of sexual compatability and many other things.   

You may consider this post "liberal".  But if being liberal means being honest with our children, and treating them with respect, and above all- being open minded, then I will take it! 

  

  

  

I think if you shelter them they will go out and do it anyway. Unless you discuss things with them and leave it open. Let them hear all the angles of things and just remind them of where you stand on things. Like you said Education is the key to overcoming ignorance. I agree with your entire statement but wanted to add my opinion to it.
 
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