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(Original Airdate: 10/27/05) Parents want the best life for their kids and often go to great lengths to make that happen.But what happens when they get so demanding, they end up hurting the children they love? Michael says his wife, Anna, is so consumed by her dream of having their 7-year-old son become a cheerleader that it’s taking over their lives. Will Anna put her son's pompoms to rest? Then, a father hides a tracking device in his son’s car and gets more than he bargained for! Plus, Nathan and Julie’s marriage is on the rocks because they disagree over his military style discipline of her 12-year-old daughter. Is Nathan’s drill sergeant parenting done out of love or for another reason? Join the discussion.

 

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October 29, 2005, 1:38 pm PDT

The dad with the car chip is doing the right thing

My son will soon be 16 and I think that a car chip is a great tool to use!  As Dr. Phil said, 16 year olds don't have the capability to make split second decisions and if a kid is driving the much over the speed limit, they are just an accident waiting to happen.  With cell phones, loud music on the radio and kids trying to look "cool" for their friends, the way the drive, the speeds they travel need to be monitored and if they don't follow the rules, take away the keys!  Driving is not a right, it's an earned privilege!  

  

  

 
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October 29, 2005, 5:36 pm PDT

10/27 Extreme Parenting

   

I want to start by saying that I respect Dr. Phil and agree with him on most of what he says. The "Army Dad" is obviously going about his parenting incorrectly and other than being the only one of the two adults actually trying to be a parent; he is way out of line. What I do find disturbing is that Dr. Phil almost totally ignores one of the greatest problems in our society today.  I could not believe that once again Dr. Phil spent about 30 seconds talking with the mother about her serious "lack of parenting" and the rest of the time on the stepfather...  

  

  

Dr. Phil tells the mother that the two most important things a mother should do for her daughter is "protect her" and  "prepare her", and he says that by putting a stop to the stepfather's actions she is doing that and should be praised for doing so. While I agree that the stepfather is out of line, he is the only one of the two that is even trying to be a parent.  

  

  

It is real simple, there is a major problem in this country where mothers are more interested in being the friend of their child and living through their child by allowing the child to "do what my parents wouldn't let me do", "I trust my daughter, because my parents didn't trust me when I was that age", "let my child roam the streets, because my parents let me", "I wanted my parents to treat me that way when I was 15", etc.... The children have to raise themselves because their mother agrees with whatever they say and do. At a young age the child is more than happy to have a parent that backs there every move and gives them an excuse when they do something bad or wrong. Where is the parenting to help the child one day become an adult and allow them to deal with relationships and everyday "real life"? The child soon finds out when they become an adult that the life where they were "King" or "Queen" and could do whatever they wanted doesn't apply to their spouse, co-workers, or their children.   

  

  

In my life over 90% of the women I have met have said that they had been raped or molested. Almost all of the woman that were raped or molested as a teenager described a situation where they were 11 - 17 years old and they were at a boyfriends house, a party, drinking and/or doing drugs somewhere where their parent or parents knew where she was at, or where the parent allowed the daughter to just "roam the streets" with her friends. Why isn't Dr. Phil having a show where he is "pissed off” that these girls were even allowed to have boyfriends, go to parties, and roam the streets at such a young age? Why isn't there a show where Dr, Phil asks these mothers whom were raped or molested at a young age in a situation where they should have never been in, why they would put their daughters in the SAME situation just because "they were allowed to go to parties when they were 13", "my parents didn't trust me at 13 to go to a party, so I want to show my daughter I trust her", etc...  

  

  

Why is it so hard for people to understand that you must be the parent first and the friend second?  

  

  

  

 
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October 30, 2005, 6:18 am PST

Yup

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Why are people comming down so hard on the "Cheerleading Mom?" 

  

  

Sexism. 

  

  

Simple as that.  There is nothing to indicate that she ever wanted to become, or was ever denied the opportunity to become a cheerleader.  There is nothing to indicate that she is re-living her life through her children. 

I do wonder if she were doing the same thing but the boy were in hockey or pee wee football would people be reacting the same way. 

  

Or if this little boy were a little girl and the mom was doing the same thing would people still be reacing the same way. 

 
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October 31, 2005, 6:21 pm PST

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I do wonder if she were doing the same thing but the boy were in hockey or pee wee football would people be reacting the same way. 

  

Or if this little boy were a little girl and the mom was doing the same thing would people still be reacing the same way. 

Yep, same reaction regardless of gender or activity.
 
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November 2, 2005, 7:44 pm PST

10/27 Extreme Parenting

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Can someone from Dr.Phil Show post the verbiage from the "contract" between the extreme parent and the child here?

I believe that this is the contract you are looking for.  

  

http://drphil.com/articles/article/190/ 

 

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November 3, 2005, 12:40 pm PST

Teenage Drivers

I am angry with the fact that a child that is given the privilege to drive and he takes advantage of it. Does he honestly think that  it is okay to speed and put peoples life's endanger? All teenagers cars should have chips in them. My family and I almost lost of lives due to a teenage driver... He just turned 19. And had his 2 younger brothers with him (15&16).  

Last November we were going out to eat. We missed our exit and had to go down and turn around. As we got on our ramp a car missed theirs floored their car to make the light then proceeded to us our ramp. (going about 50 in a 30 mph zone) They hit the passanger side. All 4 tires were blown out, all 4 rims were bent. the gas tank was even hanging down and leaking. Everyone in my car had to go to the hospital. Right after the accident my sister (15yrs) was in the back pass. screaming for help.... HELP HELP PLEASE HELP THEIR DEAD. MY MOM AND SISTER ARE DEAD!!!!! (we went from talking to complete silence) The impact was so bad that the airbags deployed (my car didn't have side senors only front and back) they also jar-ed my trunk and bent my stroller that was in the trunk) my mom was driving- she lost a vertebra and had really bad whip lash, 3yr old goddaughter back driver- dislocated shoulder, my 3 month old (just turned 2 days prier) was fine other then crying really bad and has weekly nightmares, 15yrs sister back pass.-broke her pelvis in 2 places, both her pubic bones, and her tail-bone. She had to have surgery to have an external fixature placed in her hips until Feb. and stitches in her mouth b/c her face busted out her window.And to this day she has nerve damage in her legs, and myself front pass- fractured my pelvis and I had nerve damage in my back, I also had a concusion my mom came into my er room and told me that my daughter was fine as she walked out I looked at my husband and said to him WE HAVE A DAUGHTER?? I asked him over and over within 2 hours. I thought I only asked him once. We both had walkers,potties. I had a hospital bed at home. I was unable to walk for 3 weeks.  

This has ruined our lives. I blame myself for the accident b/c I was the one that brought up the idea to go out and eat.I picked to eat somewhere across town. If I would have never opened my big mouth we would have just hit a drive thru by our house. We have over 30 places to eat by our house. I now have a guilt problem. I blame myself day in and day out. I am depressed. I have put my 15 yr old sister through hell. She spent her 16 birthday at home in pain with bars coming out of her body. Boy what a birthday. She had to wait until Feb to get her license. 

I wrote a letter to Dr.Phil needing help to understand that it was not my fault. And I hope that Dr.Phil helps me with my problem and has me as a guest. And Mark watches the show. He needs to see what it does to people and their families. Driving a car is not something you do for fun. Driving a car is something he needs to take seriously. He should have got his keys taken away from him. To teach him a really good lesson.  

 
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November 3, 2005, 6:50 pm PST

10/27 Extreme Parenting

This is what just blows my mind, the fact that these situations continue to happen because parents just don't seem to want to hold their children accountable for wrong and sometimes dangerous (to themselves and others) activities. If my child was caught driving like this it would be a minimum 1 month suspension of driving privileges, grounding for that month, and a warning that the second time would result in the vehicle being sold and he would be buying his own car. All of these parents are selfish and they themselves don't understand the risk they take by trying to be their Childs friend first, and parent second. 

 

 

 
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December 26, 2005, 7:21 pm PST

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 I think the key is compromise.  My husband wants our daughters to take piano lessons because he believes it's a good skill to have and you can use it in church.  My oldest daughter doesn't want to play piano, she wants to learn the guitar.  I said "what about a compromise?"  You can take a year of piano and learn some basic skills, and after that year, if you still want to play guitar instead, then you can.  That seemed to be something everyone was happy with.  Of course we can't afford ANY music lessons right now, but next year when we can, at least we have game plan.  I don't think a child should be pushed to fulfill their parent's dreams.  Our children have their own dreams and we should be encouraging them to follow them.  If you missed out on your dream as a child, then you need to rectify that yourself.  Don't try to live the life you wished you had through your children. 

Learning to read music for piano can also help with playing guitar because the top bar of the music is the same.  And as bonus learning to play a second instrument is good because learning music has been proven to help with other subjects especially math.  

 
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December 26, 2005, 8:13 pm PST

let the child make the choice

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Learning to read music for piano can also help with playing guitar because the top bar of the music is the same.  And as bonus learning to play a second instrument is good because learning music has been proven to help with other subjects especially math.  

I am appauled that a parent would deny their children dreams. You do not need to have music lessons to learn an instrument. Any instrument would help the child in life and their school work. You can get tapes that will help the child learn or let them try on their own. To say not to next year or when you do this will make the child feel that you are not listening to them and trying to control every aspect of their lives. Children need to be guided so that they do not do anythign crazy, but let them try everything and they will figure out what they want to do.
 
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December 26, 2005, 8:29 pm PST

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  Nathan is really out of hand. My ex was a marine and he did worse things to my children. He would yell at them tell them they were worthless and call my daughter a whore. He would get them out of bed in the middle of the night to have them clean their room or he would have them scrub the floor with a toothbrush. At times they had to write i am sorry 1000 times. And the children always had to say yes sir no sir. He ended getting physical not only with them but with me. He would say 

you have to learn. Well sorry to say but my three children have no contact with him and I am divorcing him. But at least that behavior has not spilled over to my childrens lives. Julie should not go back but should run as fast as she can, because he will not change his ways. Good luck to Julie and her daughter. I hope they get counseling and learn that this is not acceptable behavior. 

Why are you sorry that you are gettin divorced from an ABUSER.  Unless you are sorry it took you so long and his behavore destroyed the relationship between him and your kids.  The kids are better off without him.
 
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