Topic : 12/27 Extreme Parenting

 I dont agreed all parents are crazy about the driving situtions some parents can be firmed some can be fears of thier teens can be threats to harm if not let. 

Its shamed for what s been happening to this people and ruined being killed. They are asking for it. OK. was the parent knowing he was doing such a thing was the parents know he takes off  without been told. Like been said privilaged etc yah agreed but remember this. Its too late that teen dont have a chance to take away privilaged when it happens.  Its God that works on him  he will be sorry if he s on other side  no warning etc. Only one time thats it bam. 

Teens today are get away with everything  from society whos  not strong enough to have the laws on our country usa  and canada. Time is short ... Time will tell when it happens. It will be good thing that when see newspaper or news talk to teens and say look this what happens this is warning before you do crazy stuff driving choice been killed  or coma or jail term  or be good careful stay out of trouble. 

Thats only way to beginning with. I m sorry about the father  be alone for Christmas without his wife and teen. He should understand its not all his fault  to be the blame for it. It happens to be. Now its time to move on. 

 Wow, thank God, this situtions you been through is so much what I have been through. Welcome to club. Must be tough Must be scary part  Must be tired us out, but where is our door where is our supportive. My  2 adult children are from 19 to 21years of age. My daughter growing up  is in college to get family abusive education and become social worker. Nice huh very well education she s trying hard and lots of struggled for her  because of her seeing things in the past that happens to our family. Alcholic, verbal abusive, abuse. She put her foot on the ground enough is enough and stand up for herself to speak her dad how she been feeling how she s been hurt. He 's very distrub guy and very aggressive threats when she does that. He can try anything to get back to her. He knows all those years he made mistake its  not just him its me and him. My daughter is soo angry with me for stay with him.Long story make short o k. I m tired of her repeat stories yes. People friends are telling me that she take the course its hard on her she sees things and goes back to tell me to leave him now before too late. Look my husband  changed for one bit. He quit drink and been clean for 14 yrs which Praise the Lord to being with . He s been charged  abused me. After he s been charged he stop abused me . I didnt want to go back with him after been charged. I guess I was brainwashed and alots of fears for being deaf mother do have alots of supportive the only way is we went for couselling for years to solved it Childrens  Aid involved honestly I didnt want him at all. All in my mind is having him  as for love  for all myself .  ITs nightmare found out Children Aid are pain in the A////  there are alot of lack of commication.  My husband knows that he should not used the verbal words. Roll my eyes up. One thing is I should know better. The older I m getting the wiser I seen it and feeling guts  the more I do the more I have fears for safety and not loosing things that means alot to me.  My son now  19 he s private guy. Stay out of trouble. If we have problem he s out  not want to be part of it.  He s good to talk out to solved out. My daughter nope 21 yrs old she been stubborn and spoiling brat. She knows she shouldnt be  involved when there is something  s going on between him and me . Its too late. Of course I m very  numb  angry depressed and want take my old self  back and start over again.  

I understand how you feel you dont want children grow up without  father same way as I do. I do strongly beleived marriage stay put family stay together.  I  m in couselling right now and its really big helpful even I m on medication   look I go on drphil.com message board it helps me alot. I warned my husband go couselling or marriage is over. Wow I bring up that I never said it before. Its starting. Couselling put us together to work as team and it will take time for him. I know no one s perfect.  One thing I m still in abusing by my daughter who hurt me  alot of time  no charged etc. She gets out on me instead go to her dad as can be charged and hurt. Yesterday my husband wants out of marriage because of her. I told her he cannot do this he let her to win. She s not here she goes college hardly home. Whats bigging thing?  

Today. I m making resolutions ruling ruling for year 2006.  I hoped I have stronger guts do it or else. I m soo idot for not let my husband go if he wants out of marriage then I should be glad as I won the batter. Shoot. Now I wished we could e mail together and support each other we do understand our feelings. My guts to tell you dont worry about be single mom. Try it if cannot go couselling for yourself first of all and start to work on it. We can  keep in touch.  HUgs 

Why you people cannot see this mans point of view i cannot understand. Chalk it up to ignorance of never having been around homosexuals or not having raised a child and understanding how influencial adult role models can be.  I am not stereotyping male cheerleaders as homosexuals, but an overwhelming number of them are, most especially male cheerleading coaches.  This can be a very strong influence on the child at such a young age, and having worked around homosexual men for a long time I can assure you that their homesexuality is not discreet in any way.  This child will be raised with the belief that strong men are homosexual (the cheerleading coaches his mother so obviously respects), while straight men such as his father are bullied by the stronger, opposite sex (if you cannot see this as a childs interpretation of the mother challenging and overruling the fathers authority and wishes directly in front of the child, then once again you are a fool). 

If this boy wants to be a cheerleader, then let him.  If he complains and refuses to go, having to be "dragged kicking and screaming all the way to the car," as the mother says, you are making a big mistake.  I say stop trying to live out the life you wished you had vicariously through your children.  At least you daughter had enough sense to tell you to go to hell. 

You caught the boy red handed.  You have hard numbers that say he drives recklessly, often.  The same numbers prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he often travels at supralegal speeds.  Foget the trust issue.  As the man himself said, "trust should be earned."  The boy violated your trust by taking the PRIVELEDGE of driving and abusing it.  Lets not forget that driving, especially at the age of 16, is a priveledge, not a right.  Neither is a nice car (Mistubishi SUV, etc).  I agree with the viewer who proffered the punishment of suspension of driving priveledges.  A one month minimum suspension for every instance of 100+ (especially now that he knows that the chip is there) i would consider satisfactory, however i would allow a SMALL amount of leaway for the fist offense, say one month total suspension for all infractions to date.  I WOULD however, find a way to assure that the chip could not be tampered with now that the son knows it's there.  Children are not stupid (although there are exceptions to every rule), and I doubt very much that the vehicle would cease to operate with the removal of the chip, so a method of safeguarding it would be in order.   

Our children are precious, and we only get one chance with them.  I knew there was more to the story.  I knew he could not just be yelling at her and not you.  I support your decision to get out.  There are more fish in the sea.  This man does not need to be around children.  He obviously doesn't "get it".  It's your job to protect her, and that's what you've done. 

Keep up the good work and hug your precious daughter every day. 

She said her daughter used to be in cheerleading, but "couldn't handle the pressure".  Where was mom when her daughter was breaking under the pressure?  Where was the pressure coming from?  Hello?  Anyone see that? 

If she can't live through her daughter, she can live through her son.  SHE needs the attention, such as when her son got the standing ovation.  Do you think he cared?  No, but did she?  Yes.  She needs to realize what she's doing to him to meet her needs, back off, and get her own life.  As much as she's spent on cheer, about $8000 a year, she could have some serious savings going on for college! 

Wow, this person really hit the mark.  I do not think what Nathan is doing is wrong in any way.  The real problem here is lack of perenting on the account of the mother.  For nine years she did NOTHING to raise her child other than feed her (obviously) and shelter her from, well, pretty much everything that would teach her lessons about life.  Nathan, i am sorry that you came into your relationship so late.  My daughter was two when my wife an I were married (though she is my biological daughter, we simply did not wish to rush into marriage on the sole basis of having a child together), and during her first two years my wife worked and went to school and my daughter was pretty much "raised" by my mother in law, who is completely psychotic but thats another story.  To make a long story short, I was raised in a military family and was apalled by the complete lack of discipline/respect that my daughter had.  Two years later my daughter is the best behaved four year old I have ever known, and everyone complements her on her manners, personality, etc.  She is happy and well adjusted (not simply my view, either), and does not have self confidence issues.  I would like to state now that Nathan was treated unfairly on the show.  I do not know him, but I doubt very serioulsy that he has ever called his daughter a whore or drug dealer, and that he simply told her the consequences of her course of action and this was blown out of proportion by his neurotic pacifist wife.  Yelling in her face?  Do it.  She needs it, obviously.  We wouldn't be having this discussion if she were well behaved.  The daughter AND the wife are drama queens.  I'm tired of the strong father being made out to be the bad guy. You know what Nathan?  If she doesn't have the courage or the strength to be a parent to her own daughter and to do what HAS to be done, which you well know, than you shouldn't have even given her the opportunity to leave you.  You should have left her.