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(Original Air Date: 10/28/05) Being a mom is hard enough, but imagine juggling soccer, PTA meetings, homework and carpools all while trying to cover up a secret life of drug addiction. Dr. Phil follows up with some moms who say they were junkies. Joani, a mother of two, couldn't get through a half hour without shooting up -- and she was a nurse in a drug rehabilitation center! It's been six months -- how is she now? Then, Stephanie was addicted to Vicodin and took 60 times the recommended dosage every day. She's been clean for four months, but now has a new problem. Plus, a viewer inspired by Stephanie checks herself into rehab. Join the discussion.

 

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October 28, 2005, 11:08 am PDT

Well Said

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People who are here to be judgmental and give your negative opinions GO AWAY ... you can't imagine how these ladies lives are, everyone deals with their issues in their own way. Right or wrong.  

  

Yes they need help...but they have to want to help themselves first..... 

  

When I left my 10yr marriage, my life went to hell. Long story. I always smoked joint at the end of my day to relax and hopefully sleep well at night. But when everything fell apart in my life and I didn't know if I would be able to get through the next day, everyone around me was 'skiing the rails' ... I never thought about snorting coke, or taking pills, just my weed, it was all I need ..... to relax. Cocaine does wonders to help a person.  

  

Cocaine has made a huge come back from the 70's. That's what I was seeing. Growing up lots of people smoked weed. That's all! Yah some did Acid, mostly we would gather at the end of your day drink some beers and smoke  a joint! As I got older more and more of those friends started snortin Cocaine. I hated it. I told people not to do in front of me. I never touched it.     When all the changes in life started 'scaring' me, I honestly didn't know how to get through the day. Stressed out, emotional breakdowns, my mind was thinking all the time. Thoughts wouldn't stop. I couldn't sleep. I couldn't function. People around me were telling me what to do. Choices, decisions...what in the world was I going to do. I think I cracked, but somehow I had to act like I was somewhat 'normal' ...sane. How would I do that. If I smoked weed during the day, I would''t be able to be efficient, productive ( I was a manger), people would see my red eyes. I noticed people who were high from cocaine. Man they were alert, and stress free, they were happy! This girl a met...she asked me if I wanted some while we were working one day, (i quit my management job b/c it was too much for me to handle, when I should have just taken a leave of absence and got help) nooooo I got a new job while my mind was out of wack, unstable and met this girl. She was having a blast living life....I thought I'm alone now, no responsibilities, nothing. No one but me now! At this time I started taking these relaxing pills after work. At work, she asked me if I wanted a bump....what was that, a little snort of cocaine! At first I didn't think it was affecting me. I was still mentally unbalanced but my thoughts didn't bother me. That was it, everyday like 6 times a day, just a little 'bump' . just through the day, when I was with her. Night times, I hooked up with a guy....we connected spiritually, emotionally, in every way!  

  

Growing up he went to raves and partied hard he was working hard and having a little fun on the weekends. He had had is addiction to lots of drugs....but now he was getting away from all that. I moved in with him. He was my crutch. I wasn't responsible. I wasn't being consistent in my kids life's (they lived with their father, hours away from me).... He told me everyday to call my kids, he told me I had to get them back. That I wouldn't survive if I didn't fight for them.  That was the problem. I didn't know what to do .... I didn't have me kids. Long storey there. 

  

So while trying to figure out how i the world I was going to get my kids back with all the hard details to iron out. He was by my side. While I was at work during the day...I was bumpin coke. If my boyfriend ever found out he lose it. So I hid it. WOW I was doing much better. Working on getting my kids, which took 1.5 years and feeling now worries with a wonderful guy at my side supporting me how ever he could. Now I was looking forwarding to getting high while I was working. 

  

I dunno what made me stop, honestly. Life was great just as it was. One day I just quit that job. I just went into work and quit.   

  

I haven't done cocaine since. No pills, nothing! I don't even smoke weed anymore. Maybe I had a dream ... bizarre really.  

  

A little over a year ago I was granted sole custody of my 3 kids and got married to that wonderful guy and we have a baby girl!  Life is wonderful.  

  

Like I said I don't know what happened to me, and today sometimes...everyday I thank back to how I wasn't stable and realize how grateful I am for all that I have and that my kids are with me.  

  

My mind goes nuts on me every was and awhile....my kids help me to focus and keep it together. 

  

Addiction just grabs hold tightly and becomes the bestest friend.  You can't judge people,  when you haven't lived in that person's shoes.  

Fear is a weakness, be a true friend. 

I hate it when people who don't know me, and have never experienced addiction, pass judgment on something they know nothing about.  But we cannot change others...only ourselves. 

  

"If you care too much about what other people think of you, 

You will always be their prisoner." 

                                                                    ---Lao Tzu 

  

:)Siobahn 

  

 
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October 28, 2005, 11:15 am PDT

STOP!

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Hi im mary i'm a 36 year old, married mother of three kids.I live in PA and am a bad situation.I need to know if anyone can give me insite to help me see this all through.My husband has currently lost kis job for probibly the 5th time in the past 6 years or so.Tired of struggling I decided to go out and work.To ease my own mind.I got a job waitressing.It's so hard but I go everyday knowing I need to for my family. 

  

My husbnad has no motivation.We are livivng in a home that the furnace is busted and we are all so cold.There is no money but what i'm brining in.Today my sons guidence consuler called and said my son has been begging kids for money and she even saw him on the lunch room floor looking for change. 

  

I was so embarrassed to find out he is having a hard time.It's his 5th new school in his life because we keep moving around and we always end up the same way.With him losing his job and me feeling hopeless.On top of it, he lies all the time.The last time he lost his job I found out by accident that we were living off our tax return which I was told was 29 bucks when in reality it was 5000. 

  

He just dressed up everyday and went to the library.Emailing me from there like he was at work.I feel like i'm going nuts here.There are days I dont even want to get out of bed.He is so angry all the time the kids cant even breathe and he is jumping down their throat.I tell him they are kids you scare them.We can talk to them now.They are older and stuff.I feel mostly like i'm talking to myself.I have no friends anymore no one to talk to.It's hard to keep hanging on sometimes. 

  

I feel so overwhelmed things are pllling on top of me and I cant get any air you know?If anyone has any advice I'd sure love some I go in tonight at 11 pm and i'll be checking to see if anyone at all can relate.. 

loser 

First of all ........STOP CALLING YOURSELF A LOSER!!  Until you get rid of that identity, you cannot hope to resolve these problems in a healthy manner.  I've worked through my father's suicide, narcotic drug addiction and depression -- I am NOT a loser, unless I tell myself I am.  You gave yourself that title, and you can remove it!  See yourself as a winner....and you will become one.  I promise. 

  

:)Siobahn 

  

 
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October 28, 2005, 12:39 pm PDT

My Mother

My mother is addicted to Vicodin (which I call the new "drug of choice" among the prescription drug abusers).  She had a "breakdown" about 1 month ago and confessed that she has a problem and that she was checking herself into a methadone clinic.  However, my mother is very manipulative.  She tells me what I want to hear.  It is as though our roles have switched and I am now the mother and she is the child.  I was proud of her for finally admitting that she had a problem and for seeking help.  Much to my surprise, she is seeking out the methadone clinic so that she can now acquire "free" drugs instead of having to pay for them!  My sister and my wife and I want her to check into an inpatient clinic so that she can receive the overall therapy that she needs (it is obvious that she is angry and has issues stemming from her childhood that she needs to get under control).  Her excuse is that she doesn't want to lose her job (where many of her friends are on vicodin or in the methadone clinic---most likely her "suppliers") and she doesn't want to lose her home.  My wife and I were willing to pay her monthly rent so that she could leave and get help.  She refused.  She needs to check into an inpatient clinic.   I am not very close to my mother;  we have always been very distant.   Sometimes I feel as though she isn't even a part of my family.  So to continue being distant is not an issue for me (consciously, I'm sure it is affecting my life on an unconscious level).  I do not want to have contact with my mother until she receives the help she needs and discontinues the manipulation!  My wife and I are planning on having children in the near future and it would be nice to have my mother involved in the birth of the baby, however she will NOT have any contact with her grandchild unless she is clean and sober!
 
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October 28, 2005, 1:43 pm PDT

Reality of how easy it is to get addicted

My sympathy goes out of all of the mothers that are addicted to any of these prescription medications. I know that it's so easy to get these pills and get addicted to them. I have 4 children, 2 step and 2 of my own. After giving birth to my first son, the doctor straight out asked me if I felt I needed any anti-depressants. She knew my situation and I quess she felt they were necessary. When my son was about 8 weeks old I thought I really did need them but I lived day to day and got through it. My 2 best friends are on Loft I have a sister in law that is also on Loft I have 2 brother in laws that are on Zanax and a mother in law that is on anti depressants and depressants. I've always felt that if you need it take it. If you feel that in order to get though every day you need to take those pills, take them but you have to know you're own self control.  

  

I feel that women today try to do so much and at the end of the day are totally exhausted. In order to deal with work, kids, house, kids' schedules, husbands schedule, husbands needs, the bills must I go on. And still be able to find time to dedicate to themselves.  

  

I was at a point that I felt I needed Zanax because honestly I get frustrated and irritated and Zanax just numbs you to everything that's going on around you and you just do what you have to do. I have taken some of my families pills and it is so much easier to deal with stuff whenever you're on the drugs. But I have never been about to go to the doctor and ask for the pills because I fear I'd become addicted like these women and I know it'd fix my day to day problems but they're really not that bad. 

  

My heart goes out to them and I hope and pray that they can continue to stay off the drugs and live a happy healthy life. 

  

I want to know why doctors give these pills out so easy. You can go on the internet and order then with a credit card. No exam nothing just go on the internet search for them and purchase them and they'll come in the mail. And some of these sites will send them to you as often as you feel you need them and just keep charging you're credit card. Tell me that's no screwed up!! These doctors need to stop thinking about their pocket books and start thinking about their patients well being. 

 
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October 28, 2005, 1:50 pm PDT

kick him to the curb

stephanie needs to kick chris to the curb and get on with her life. you deserve better than him.  

  

congratulations on your recovery and don't let chris de-rail you. you can do anything you set your mind to.  

  

  

 

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October 28, 2005, 2:02 pm PDT

get rid of that man!

Stephanie would be so much better off without that man.  He doesn't seem to have any remorse for the things he did to her.  I have seen so many people in these kinds of relationships.  These men are evil and rarely do they change, because they don't think they've done anything wrong.  I could see in his face that he thinks he is justified in whatever he does.  I hope she sees this and realizes that she does not need him.
 
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October 28, 2005, 2:10 pm PDT

recovery

  

My husband has complex regional pain syndrome he was prescribed oxycontin and norco. He decided a few weeks ago to go to Florida Detox to get off the pain medications . 

5 years ago he tried a rehab center in Austin Texas and the procedure was horrible. 

Florida Detox was the answer to our prayers. 

He also has taken xanax for 20 years and Florida Detox is helping address this issue. 

He is 1 week out of detox and is getting better everyday day. 

We hope anyone in need will consider going to Florida Detox. It has saved our marriage and my husbands life. 

  

 
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October 28, 2005, 2:17 pm PDT

I'm losing my husband to coke

There's no help in canada, it's impossible to get him into treatment.  something bad is going to happen really soon, I know it.  I haven't talked to him in days, don't know where he is, but he's getting high.  it's so hard to let him go.  I know the man he can be.  But I don't know the man he has become. 
 
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October 28, 2005, 2:31 pm PDT

some advice

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My daughter has an addicition as well, she is a junkie, I don't like saying that, but I have too..she was a heroin addict and now is recovering, well she was, now its drinking once in awhile but mostly pot use and sleeping pills, she was clean for almost a full year...she had to go on treatment for 1 year an towards the end, she couldn't take it anymore, she wanted to have fun once in awhile...so she did, but she is supposed to be clean from everything, because she has hep c ...:(   and she just turned 25 and she has the worst one 1A the worst one, usually non effective with treatment. Her life has been one big turmoil, 50% of her own doing...she started on drugs very young...11 1/2  crank!!!!!! our lives, her life went down ever since...what stopped her? a murder...jail...and now recovery....if you can call it that....okay, this is too upsetting...i will be back later thanks for listening... 

Im 18 and i've never tried a drug before,and never smoked anything in my life.i dont know much about it.But i can tell you experiences that my friends have had and tell you what they did.and it really did change them.My friend lynnette lived in fairfield in california.Which is a bad town,and very bad people that influence everybody in doing drugs.she moved to where im living,and shes a christian she dosent smoke anymore and is doing very well in school, has a job and everything.I think if your daughter is still living with you.I think that you should move far to where she cant go back.get her into new things.Give her a new life.Take her places with you.Talk to her,and tell her how you feel...."Somethings gotta change,since shes not doing it.you have to". 

 
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October 28, 2005, 2:53 pm PDT

And the doctors are not to blame because?

So why aren't the prescriping doctors not at fault for being drug pushers?  I do know how crafty addicts can get when the fix ix needed.  I've been in the healthcare field for over 30 years and have seen it all.  But it usually begins at the doctors office with the writing of a prescription and then to the pharmacy to fill it.  Why not lobby for a national computer system joining all pharmacies together so multiple fills are red flagged.  Why are we so willing for that quick fix, just give me a pill attitude?  I personally hate taking pills and meds, but I am also an insulin dependent diabetic. ( I think God has a sense of humor)  I would place blame or point a finger at the original source first.
 
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