Topic : 05/31 Falsely Accused

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Created on : Friday, October 28, 2005, 02:16:37 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/2/2005) False accusations have ruined lives and divided families. No one knows this better than Terry. She claims she was falsely labeled as a gossip at her son, Steve's, rehearsal dinner and was escorted out of his wedding by security! Now, she confronts her son and daughter-in-law for the first time in almost five months. Can this family ever reconcile, or are they better off apart? Then, a former high school principal made headlines when a 16-year-old student accused him of having sex with her. The scandal rocked the town, and now he struggles to regain his reputation and move forward.  Share your thoughts here.

 

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June 8, 2006, 10:42 am PDT

No personal attack intended

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Terry's physical removal from the wedding IS the most important part of what happened, it was the basis of the show, and I guarantee that if she had not followed the orders of the henchmen the DIL hired, she WOULD have been hauled off. Are you saying it's okay to have your own mother hauled off from your wedding as long as the guards don't have guns? Are you kidding?  

  

But you are right in that normal, reasonable people do not ask their mothers to leave their weddings (realize that she was not asked - she was told). This married couple is not normal, the DIL is one scary, cold, controlling lady. That was an incredibly cruel thing to do, and I would think that a mother would have to do something far more serious than make a comment to a gossiping aunt, who apparently joyously carried the news directly to DIL,  to merit such terrible treatment. 

  

I do resent your personal attack on me, as though, since I disagree with you, I must have been involved in such an issue. I am just very surprised and disappointed at the complete lack of empathy I see on this message board, this attitude of, "someone in my family ticked me off, so they are banned from my life forever." The problem with this attitude is that, for example, Steve has cut off his mother, but he doesn't get the benefit of a relationship with her, either. They both then are the losers, although he may not realize that while he is still in the honeymoon phase of his marriage. 

  

Just for the record, the only type of situation like this that I have been involved in was when my sister was told in no uncertain terms that she was NOT welcome at my daughter's wedding, for reasons FAR more serious than in this case. I was also afraid of a scene, and contacted the police beforehand to see what could be done to keep her away. Well, of course she showed up anyway, but since she didn't want to be thrown out, she behaved herself and I doubt that anyone other than those involved even knew there was an issue. The wedding was wonderful, everyone had fun, and having her thrown out did not become the focal point of my daughter's big day, thank goodness. So I guess in a way I have been involved in such a situation, but on the other side, and I believe that I handled it far more compassionately and discreetly than this couple did. 

I honestly fail to see where I have attacked you or gotten off subject.    

   

Unless you consider my observation that you seem to lack the ability to be objective about this family's situation to be an attack?  I can assure you it was not meant that way.  Most of the time when we have personal experience with a particularly painful event we lose our ability to be objective about other similar situations.  Basically, emotion can cloud your ability to reason the way others who haven't had that experience can.  Since you seem so focused on one aspect of the story instead of seeing the bigger picture I wondered if you had been thru something similar.  But there was no insult intended in my asking.  I am simply trying to understand why you have taken up this mothers cause so vehemently.  

   

Of course I am not saying it is "okay" to have your mother "hauled off" as long as the guards don't have guns. I am simply accepting the reality that sometimes relationships have broken down in families and create situations where mothers (or fathers or any other relative) are not welcome at a wedding ceremony or other family event.    

   

I have already stated this is very sad and obviously not the ideal way for families to relate to one another.  But unfortunately it still happens.  We would all be better served by trying to understand where the breakdown occurred in the first place and concentrate on helping repair that area,  than continuing to look for new ways to blame each other, or other people for our problems.  

   

In the case of Steve and his mother, it is just not logical to believe that what occurred in Hawaii is the only problem this pair have with one another.  It could only have gotten THAT bad if there had been a prior history of miscommunications, anger or disrespect in the first place.    

   

Again I will say, if you could accept that this family had serious issues well before the wedding you would be able to understand that to Steve his mothers behavior OBVIOUSLY was no "little thing".  Normal, reasonable people (which Steve seemed to be) do not ask their mothers to leave their weddings unless there has been some very serious breakdown in their relationship.   What the mom said to the aunt was not the one and only problem.  It was just the straw that broke the camels back.  Looking at it your way only addresses the symptoms or consequences of a much bigger problem and not the problem itself.     

     

 
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June 8, 2006, 9:56 pm PDT

agreed

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You may think this mom came off as "reasonable" but Dr. Phil sure didn't.    It was obvious to me he did not buy for one minute that Terry was an innocent "victim" in this situation.  He kept saying, "oh, come on" to try to get her to see how unbelievable some of her claims of innocence were.  

  

When I am watching Dr. Phil interview people I tend to take my cues from him as to which direction the truth leans.  This is because he does have all the background and history and does very thorough research on the people who come on his show.     

  

But more important than that, Steve has known his mother all his life.  He knows what she is capable of and what she can be predicted to do based on her past choices and behaviors.   If he felt she couldn't be trusted to behave there was probably a very good reason for that opinion. 

  

You lack the comprehension of how complex these type family dynamics truly are when you say people are "reading way too much into this".  There are reasons that go well beyond the mom making an inappropriate comment to the aunt that she was asked not to attend the wedding.    Blaming the new d-i-l for any of this is just an attempt to divert attention away from the real problem; the mother and son's rocky relationship and all the history that made it what it was by the time the wedding day arrived.   There is more going on in this family than you realize. 

I agree.  It seemed to me that the mom was not willing to accept any responsibility for her part in the situation or any situation for that matter.   

  

Not sure I would have removed the mom from the wedding, but I am not Steve and don't know the history behind their relationship.  I think he felt justified and that he had given her plenty of notice, both the dinner by warning her not to gossip and then after by leaving message after message telling her not to come to the ceremony.   

  

I believe Terry is probably angry at the mom because of the history and wanted to protect him from the hurt/pain/whatever. caused by his family.  I don't think it is her role to fix or come between the relationship between Steve and his mom, but I can understand the rational for why she has done what she has. She did what she believed what right for her husband. 

Terry needs to get over her anger over what has happend to Steve and let Steve deal with the problems in the family relationships if he can.   

She will need to support him in his decisions that way.   

  

Steve  needs to forgive his mom and get rid of his hurt and anger for his own sake.  Those emotions take so much energy away from the good things in life.  Steve may need to always set boundaries with his mom because I have serious doubts if mom will ever accept responsibilty for her actions, but who knows stranger things have happened. 

 
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June 12, 2006, 7:39 pm PDT

Yes choose life with standards and integrity

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Choose life? Integrity? Are you kidding? As mom is lead away by an armed policeman for nothing more than a comment? It's interesting that you think it's okay for a kid to treat his very reasonable, but not perfect, mom like that. She's just like everyone on earth, her life isn't perfect, but she obviously tries. You are reading way too much into this, it was all supposed to be about the wedding and the mom did nothing to ruin anything. And it's interesting how one comment made to the infamous aunt has caused Steve to have no relationship with his own mother whatsoever, and you seem to think that's okay. Hope you can live up to your own standards, you may end up alone and lonely yourself, cause I sure can't see how embarassing and scaring your mom like that is in any way choosing life, it's just showing that there are some real issues with the new wifey. Can you say passive aggressive? She's a real cold character, that one!

It is true I am living by standards that align with my writings. As for alone - my life is filled with genuine people who care for me and I care for.  Our relationships are filled with grace and forgiveness for one another.  I am not alone - unless you speak of those who reject my standards and abandoned my presence due to my lack of choosing them over my own wife and children and lets not leave out - my bio dad. My story parallels Steve's story - Loving my bio dad was just too much for the rest of them. My ability to accept all was construded to be a "reject" of some - when that did not have to be the case - but when others make it a case - then someone is going to have to loose - that is what manipulation is all about - you need to check your vision to see if you have discernment over who in this story is actually the "passive agressive" and what the motivations of each are.  My guess is the d i l is feeling inadequate - "the cause" the blame - and is NOT digging it one bit.... and she wouldn't have written herself into the script in this manner if she had a choice. Face it -nobody likes rejection - but the word integrity comes when people won't allow someone else to dictate to them who to love and who not to. It is clear you have not considered that Steve's first choice would be that he could have a mother and a father in his own life - and neither of those relationships harm's (or should harm) his relationship with the other. But if that is too much for the other parent and siblings... then HIS integrity must stand for who he is. I hate issues like this - I am not one bit happy to part of a situation like this - but I would not understand love nor be able to love if my life's view of love was twisted and conditional by the family dynamics that I now understand so well. It hurts me to see stories such as this one - Yes I am all for forgiveness - I am about seeing love win - but one can't make someone else love you above their own justification, anger, pain, and lack of forgiveness.   

 
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June 13, 2006, 8:10 pm PDT

the same happen to me this year

The principle at my school told the police one day that I did two things when I was at school, I never even did what he said I did and he said this to the police officer(which was a lie) and he never had any  proof that it happen. He loves looking big at the school and so much has he knows that hardly anyone includeing the students and parents dont have no time for him because he dont bother to look after the school he just sits back and now the school is full of problems and he just making stuff up.This school is out of control BIG TIME!!!
 
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July 24, 2006, 4:47 am PDT

Developments?

 Hi,

I am a teacher from Ireland.  We are quite behind in the episodes of Dr. Phil shown on our network.  This morning I saw the show on people who are wrongly accused.  I was heartbroken, as a teacher, to see Dr. Eboni and his wife speaking of how their world came undone following the false allegations of a 16 year old student. I was so pleased to see Dr. Phil stand by this man and appeal on his behalf to employers across the country.  Please could somebody let me know if Dr. Eboni has been successful in finding a new job?  My heart truly goes out to this couple.

Thanks!
 

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