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(Original Air Date: 11/2/2005) False accusations have ruined lives and divided families. No one knows this better than Terry. She claims she was falsely labeled as a gossip at her son, Steve's, rehearsal dinner and was escorted out of his wedding by security! Now, she confronts her son and daughter-in-law for the first time in almost five months. Can this family ever reconcile, or are they better off apart? Then, a former high school principal made headlines when a 16-year-old student accused him of having sex with her. The scandal rocked the town, and now he struggles to regain his reputation and move forward.  Share your thoughts here.

 

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November 2, 2005, 4:13 pm PST

11/02 Falsely Accused

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My husband and I are in the middle of a he-said-she said situation.  I have always felt that my MIL is not very accepting of me, and everyone jokes about how she has to control everything.  I have always been able to brush off her words and actions until recently. 

  

After building our dream home, we had my husbands family up for the Holidays.  One made the mistake of even saying it was "the best Christmas ever".  I felt the wrath of MIL, and later SIL (at the time on Prozac) called to tell us what her mom had been said about us after the holidays.  Mostly about me.  How I used my parents, I'm spoiled, I don't work, we were just showing off our house and what did they expect from an only child who could not respect her elders...  On and on.  

  

Recently my father (with whom I was very close) has had an unfair battle with his health.  He suffered a heart attack 20 months ago, and after surgery had months of severe complications.  They live in a rural area and he had to be life-flighted to a larger town to save his life.  During this time, my grandfather also passed.  Once recovered from heart issues, my father was diagonsed with cancer.  My IL's accused us of using his heart "illness", and my grandfather's death as an excuse not to spend time with them, and this had "drug on" long enough, and in a phone call, they told us that he wasn't that sick, we were making it up, and if they were sick, would we help them? They even told my husband that he was going to hell for helping out my father on a Sunday.  My husband would be judged for what he did after we had said life was to short for arguments like this.  We never did tell them of his cancer diagnosis or how severe it was. 

  

Meanwhile SIL now off Prozac, (talking negatively about anyone or anything that moved) and after the birth of her first child gave us ultimatums for his babtism.  "If you don't come, you don't need to ever step foot in our house again., who makes all the rules in that house anyway, and if you would ever have children maybe you would understand, but your proiorities are just screwed up."   We did not go back for the babtism a 3 hour dirve on icy roads. My husband went back to have a talk with them later.  They had proudly told FIL what they had said I think to show perhaps how wrong we were, but instead they got an "how dare you" speach. 

  

They said all was forgotten until we recieved a letter,  in which we were uncapable of forgiveness and phone calls in which my husband felt pressured to tell them of my fathers cancer battle.  They had demanded to know why we weren't coming around. ??? After not getting their way to stay with us, on another date, (we still had not spoken, and they wanted to stay with us out of the blue) they used my fathers cancer as an opportunity to attack and degrade me.  "Your dad will die, and then your mother will die, and then when your husband dies you will be alone, you are NOTHING, you have no friends, the world does not revolve around you.  You are the reason that I cannot be close to my brother, we used to be best friends until you came along."  Somehow for an hour I stayed calm on the phone, and later the hurt sank in. They later told family how I was over reacting, and they just wanted to show me how important family is. They now are also spreading about to others how I did not grow up in the church, even though I did, and have very strong beliefs, even if they are not the same as theirs. 

  

My husband  went to see a therapist, and with her help he wrote a letter to his parents, standing up for himself, and confronting them about things they said to us, and things that got back to us. Now he has been getting letters from his mother that she used to have the perfect son, and he is making up these lies, and he is being brain washed.  Even SIL said she never told my husband that I "have never wanted to be a part of the family, and I am a selfish only child, and I only do what I want to do in life".    When I asked why she would say such things, she said, no, I was making this up.  And that no matter what they ever said to us, they had it tougher. 

  

My husband is so hurt, and we are both so frustrated. 

  

My father passed away two weeks ago today.  After the phone call from SIL and her husband, I told my husband that if anything were to happen to my dad, I did not want them at the funeral.  My dad was a great judge of character, and could smell the truth about MIL, and SIL a mile away.  Maybe that is why they felt they could say things about him, I don't know.  Anyway, they have tried to turn even being asked not to come to the funeral all about them.  My husband had hoped they could maybe see the truth, or admit to things they did, or even try to understand why, but of course not.  The other SIL is embarrased by the rest of her family's behavior. 

  

How can you connect with people that only want to point out faults, judge others, and demand?  We have stayed away, and that is helping us for now.  I want to rid the words that were said to me, and get them out of my head.   When we try to talk about things, they all just split hairs, and deny words that they said, and demand examples, and then just use that as opportunities to insult further.  Where do we go from here? 

  

Signed, 

Frustrated 

  

One of the last things you said was "How can you connect with people that only want to point out faults, judge others, and demand?" Now I'm not a therapist by no means but I don't think you can connect with these people. They seem to have thier own agenda when it comes to topics of conversation. Family or not your husband needs to set them straight and tell them that he isn't going to tolerate anymore of this hate. I think the worst thing you can do is fuel the fire by arguing with them. You didn't mention fighting back verbally, so you are on the right track. People like this basically have nothing else to do in life, so they create thier own fun (if you can call it that). Unfortunatly, the best defense is to try to ignore them. You handled yourself well with your above letter,better than I would have. Nobody says nothin' 'bout my mama. 

  

Life sure does give us some ups and downs and it seems that the downs know right where to find us. It's how you handle things that matters. Keep taking the right path and never lower yourself to the degree that your mother in law has. The key is not to give her the reaction she is looking for. Good luck. 

michelle :) 

 
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November 2, 2005, 4:22 pm PST

11/02 Falsely Accused

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I gotta agree with one of the other posters.  There is a BIG difference between gossip and truth.  Gossip is a false statement meant to cause harm to another.  TRUTH is something that actually happened.  Your dad could NOT keep his "shrinky dink" in his pants DURING HIS MARRIAGE!  Therefore, he got his MISTRIESS pregnant!  What part of that is gossip?  Your mom has a right to be angry!  So does your sister!  So do you, only you're too much of a "daddy's boy" to realize you should be mad as heck!  Pull your mom and sister aside before the nuptials and state your position, don't EMBARRASS them by sicking the police on them RIGHT BEFORE THE CEREMONY!  Your dad is a gutless wonder, and apparantly so are you and your "darling" wife!
I think the point was not that one incident but that there was a plot afoot between the sister and the mom to cause a big scene at the wedding, and the mother would never assure them she wouldn't take part.  Anyone who would even tease about doing something like that doesn't care that much about the feelings of their son.
 
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November 2, 2005, 4:25 pm PST

you have more than you think

Dr Wilson has overcome his strives as a youth and has shown what a REAL man is. i support you and will put you and your wife in my prayers. I am a foster parent and have been put to the test a few times and i must commend you on your outstanding ability to continue to see the light, because in MANY peoples life weather you know it or not, YOU are their light. It is a true blessing to have seen the show and all that you have done. YOU ARE AN INSPIRATION TO US ALL!!!!   GOD BLESS...It would be an honor to shake your hand, and your wifes> 

 
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November 2, 2005, 4:28 pm PST

Hang in there Dr. Wilson

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I was very sad to see that this happend to Dr.wilson and even more so sad to see how the people in his town talked about him. One man said because he is black and the students are black thats why they respond to him thats is just wrong. Men get talked about for not having a job or getting a education and Dr.wilson came from a bad environment and got a education and is trying to work with children to help them this man doesnt deserve this. The girl was lying and they are acting like its no big deal he didnt do it and he doesnt deserve the treatment he is getting. Dr.Wilson is a great role model and should be having people wanting to hire him left and right as a human period he is great and as a black man he is a great exmaple to me I am a 24 year old black male college student and I am gone to be a social worker and watching Dr.Wilson makes me feel like I can achieve my goals this man should be praised for doing something positive with his self and trying to work with children stay strong Dr.Wilson you will rise above all of this
I hope that thru this show and Dr. Phil, you can move forward from the false accusations you had to endure in Chester, PA.  I live around there and remember reading about your ordeal and wondering why a big front page apology wasn't in the Daily Times like the other headlines that preceded it.  I wish you lots of success and luck in getting another job and I know you will with the support of the people and Dr. Phil.  You are blessed to have a strong wife standing beside you.
 
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November 2, 2005, 4:28 pm PST

principal

I worked for 2 years in an alternative school in the same district as Eboni Wilson.  Briefly met him once.  Kids crowded around him... Mr. Wilson!  He stepped into a pile of SH!!! in Chester.  Seriously in the hole financially.  BOTTOM for test scores in PA... and PA's a pretty big state!  Know he's been completley scarred... if he did IT, he's guilty... if he didn't... there are many who have doubts!  I'm on his side!!
 
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November 2, 2005, 4:30 pm PST

what happened to the accuser

 I am a mother of three children and am very happy to be in a school district that cares about our kids.  While I do belive that all accusations should be investigated, I also belive that if it is proven to be false that the person who knowingly made that false statement should face charges. Dr. Wilson will never have his good rep. back and in the minds of most people in his town have already convicted him. The girl that made the statement was just trying to get herself out of trouble. And it is girls like her that make the true victims keep quiet. That man and his wife will face horrible hardships for the rest of thier careers. I think as parents we take for granted the teachers and principals that truly make a difference. I would love to see more men take positive action in our school systems. It is a shame that the girl who did this to Dr. Wilson will get off scott free. I think that parents should start making thier children take resposibility for thier actions!!!!
 
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November 2, 2005, 4:34 pm PST

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I can't believe what was done to that principal. That was so wrong!!!!!! The police went ahead and investigated him but what about the girl who LIED!!!! What is wrong with society. Why wasn't something done to her? If she is allowed to get away with this she will just go on to do it again and who knows what else!!!! She needed to be prosecuted. This man lost his livelihood because of her ignorance. I am so glad Dr. Phil stood by him and I do too. I will be buying his book. And people, if you think education is expensive look at what ignorance costs us!!!!!!
 
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November 2, 2005, 4:37 pm PST

11/02 Falsely Accused

Quote From: btvcharley

I am from a family of harsh false accusers and I've spent my life trying to find the delicate balance between tolerating the pain and drama of interacting with them versus the guilt of needing to distance myself in order to live a happy, healthy life.   

  

The biggest thing I take away from the family conflict on today's show is the inability for people to talk to eachother honestly and openly.  It seemed as though the mother could not be honest with even herself about her gossiping habits and things she did or didn't say to the producers during the pre-show interviews.  It is extremely difficult to have a relationship with someone who can't own their behavior or comprehend the impact of that behavior on others.   

  

Dr. Phil nailed it when he said that, regardless of what she did or didn't say to the bride's aunt, she was not acting in the spirit of her son's wedding day.  Yes, she can be as bitter and angry at her ex over what happened 27 years ago.  But, how nice it would have been for her to have dealt with those feelings a long time ago, let go of the anger, and lived a rich and happy life.  Second, if she chose instead to take a victim role and cling onto the anger and pain, then it is too bad she could not put that aside for one day in celebration of her son and daughter-in-law.  Yes, she has the right to continue being angry if she chooses, but she does not have the right to ruin her son's wedding.   

  

What is the right answer for dealing with people who hauling around 27 years-worth of baggage like this?  I don't fault the son for not knowing; he obviously hasn't had the greatest role model. 

Selfish is the key word here, or maybe narcissistic.  She couldn't let her son have his day.  She had to make the whole thing about her.  I think it's great they had her hauled out of there.  And by the way, police don't haul people away unless there's a reason.  I have known two people who had these same bad habits, and they both drove their children away.  One is an aunt of mine who had three very nice sons, two of which finally had to just cut her off because it was either her or their wives and family.  She was constantly meddling and manipulating.  Her remaining son died of leukemia recently, so she is alone, and she did it to herself.  She has alienated siblings of hers by doing things like visiting their spouses in the hospital on their death bed and trying to convert them to her religion.   

  

A friend of mine's dad made every gathering about himself.  As soon as they would arrive at their destination for holiday dinner, he would begin a lot of histrionics to focus attention on himself.  He tried to put his tongue down my throat right in front of his wife at my friend's wedding.   

  

I am all for cutting off toxic parents and siblings.  You may love them in their better times, but you don't have to like them, and I don't think you have any obligation to people who want to ruin your life for their selfish reasons.  I would never stay with a man who had a mom like the one on Dr. Phil today unless he did just what he has been doing, which is refusing to let her ruin his life.  My feeling is that most men are easily manipulated by their mothers and for this one to have his eyes open about her must have taken some pretty overt acts.   

  

I have read a lot about sociopaths and chronic liars and such, and one of the things many of them share is a "flat" demeanor.  I thought hers was very flat.  If a caring mother was really being unfairly accused and cut off by her son, she would have been much more emotional -- and of course, most women who lie would fake it and start crying as part of the manipulation.  But she had a completely controlled demeanor and just lied, lied, lied.  I don't know why Dr. Phil let her off the hook.  He caught her in a lie and her other responses were not credible.  I could care less what she said about her husband, but it was the threats and conspiracy leading up to the wedding that put the couple, justifiably, on edge.  And I'm sure they saw that statement as the curtain going up.  How glad that man must be to be out of that relationship, though I do sympathize with anyone who has been cheated on. 

 
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November 2, 2005, 4:40 pm PST

For the Principal

Sorry to hear about what happened to you!  We need more people in the education field like you.  We have an opening for a principal in our middle school in Allendale, SC.  if you are willing to relocate to SC we would love to have you as an principal.  I think you could inspire many lives here.  This is a rural town who needs someone to look up to.  My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.  Keep your head up.  With God on your side everything is possible.
 
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November 2, 2005, 4:40 pm PST

Falsely Accused

I was watching Dr. Phil about you being accused falsely and I really was saddened by the way the public can act toward another person. None of us is perfect ,but I feel really bad for this to happen to someone who is making a difference in the lives of others.I stand by you and your wife during this time and pray that you get a job soon. I feel that maybe God has another plan for you and he knows whats best. 

  

  

  

                                                                                    Good Luck and Have Faith in God!! 

  

 
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