Topic : 08/25 Extreme Food Obsessions

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(Original Air Date: 11/03/05) What if you were so obsessed with eating that it almost killed you, or craving food so badly that you yelled, kicked and screamed when you couldn't get enough. Nichelle's 6-year-old daughter has Prader-Willi Syndrome and constantly wants to eat. She once threw a fit so loud, the neighbors called the police. Can Nichelle learn to control her own temper when her daughter has a tantrum? Then, Dr. Phil follows up with Kathy, an anorexic whose condition was so severe, she weighed only 68 pounds. She spent three months in treatment, but her struggle is not over yet. Can her family learn the difference between supporting her and enabling her? Talk about the show here.

 

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November 19, 2005, 5:30 pm PST

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

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In response to the people who have posted who are implying that children with PWS are "spoiled" or  "why can' t they just feed them healthy foods" -- this is a real illness that is caused by a deletion on the 15th chromosome.  The area of the brain called the hypothalamus does not work properly and in addition to affecting hunger it also controls growth hormone, metabolism, temperature regulation and behavior. etc.  It's not a matter of just feeding healthy foods -- imagine ALWAYS feeling hungry no matter what you eat and then having your daily caloric intake reduced to accomadate your slow metabolism -- many with this syndrome are on 800 calories a day and still gain weight. This child is not being a brat -- she is responding the only way her little body knows how to respond in an environment where food is not controlled and she is not receiving the support she REQUIRES.  Children and adults DIE as a result of this syndrome. Nichelle I urge you to get the help you need to care for Savannah --her life depends on it!! There's a wonderful network of Moms (and some Dads and Grandparents too) who are going through exactly what you are going through and have found ways to not only deal with this but to make life enjoyable!!  

Amy  

I had a son that passed away at 22 of PWS and I just thought that Amy had the right response it is in the number 15 chromosome that is where it all begins. I dont think alot of these people understand what causes this problem.I can feel for everyone who has a child with PWS. 

Susie 

 
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November 22, 2005, 1:44 pm PST

Yours, Mine, & Ours

I think these parents that got married and joined all these kids and expected it to work are braver than me! I married a man with two teenage boys , I had two younger boys and then we had a beautiful little girl! Now our kids are 24, 23, 20, 18, 13! We survived it and these parents will also! You just need a whole lot of love, communication, respect, and understanding but most of all alot of discipline! Just hang in there and don't give into the kids! They are the kids and you guys need to be the adults! Thanks, Stein706
 
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November 29, 2005, 4:49 pm PST

You, Miss Heidi, are in for a fall.

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You were not reaching out for help, you were reaching out for a PITY PARTY! You're whole attitude and message is all about you. Oh you POOR SINGLE MOTHER!! Let me weep for you... NOT. 

  

I happen to be the single mother to a very wonderful little boy who has a language disability. However, you wouldn't know it because of how I've raised him properly with LOVE AND PRAISE AND KINDNESS!  

  

YOU ARE THE REASON YOUR KIDS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME. They did nothing and are not born wrong. They may have unique challenges but that is what makes parenting a joy and not a burden. You obviously shouldn't have EVER reproduced. 

  

Able or Disabled, you do not have the right to EVER lay your hands on those children.  

  

YOU are a physical and verbal and mental and spiritual abusive. YOU have set those children BACK in life and not helped them in any manner. So stop your whining and blaming it all on them, it's YOUR FAULT. 

  

I will not commend you for 'reaching out' when we both know you just wanted some attention. 

  

Let's quote some points that prove what I'm saying. 

  

Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats.  

  

NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. 

  

Can I get SOME credit?!  

  

You should be in jail, and I am highly surprised you weren't picked up then and there. I have NO sympathy for you, but I have plenty of sympathy for your children. Further, Dr. Phil, I am appalled your camera crews did not stop her from mistreating her child like that.  

  

Miss Heidi 

My 37-year-old son has Prader-Willi syndrome.  His father left me alone to raise Kirk and our wonderful daughter.  There is nothing more difficult than raising a child with PWS, especially with no support system.  They are trying beyond belief.  My daughter, 38,  is the only thing that saved me from suicide.  To this day, I have never had support from anyone in my family but my daughter, and we love Kirk dearly, but he is still a handful.  Heidi, you just don't get it.  Don't make God have to teach you compassion first-hand.   Nichelle has a road to tow that no one but a single mother with a PW child could possibly understand.
 
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December 8, 2005, 7:54 pm PST

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My 37-year-old son has Prader-Willi syndrome.  His father left me alone to raise Kirk and our wonderful daughter.  There is nothing more difficult than raising a child with PWS, especially with no support system.  They are trying beyond belief.  My daughter, 38,  is the only thing that saved me from suicide.  To this day, I have never had support from anyone in my family but my daughter, and we love Kirk dearly, but he is still a handful.  Heidi, you just don't get it.  Don't make God have to teach you compassion first-hand.   Nichelle has a road to tow that no one but a single mother with a PW child could possibly understand.

I do not have a friend/family with Prader-Willi, but I do have a brother with Autism and I think that Heidi had a good point.  Children with disabilities are not a burden, they are a huge blessing, you get to experience little things, everyday miracles that parents of ordinary children don't get to experience.  If you only dwell on the "problems" or the "challenges" your special kids give to you, you will never get to experience those miracles.   Frankly, if you can't see your children with special needs as more of a blessing than a challenge, you don't deserve to have them at all.  

 
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December 9, 2005, 1:30 pm PST

So much is possible

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 Diane;

OMG, you and your daughter are my heroes!!   I've been in PWS hell since I found out about this show and read this msg board.  See, I am the father of a 4 year old girl with PWS.  Some days are OK, but some days are like these past 2 when I think about Mirabelle and 300 lb 13 yr olds and how it must feel to be hungry ALL THE TIME. 

But there have been some hopeful messages on this board too - and yours tops the list.  Your daughter is 23 and weighs 125 lbs!  That's amazing.  Ever since my daughter was diagnosed I've been searching for what I call 'PWS succes stories'.  And I've found they are few and far between.  One I recently learned about is a young woman about the same age as your daughter who has recently graduated college with a dual major!!  This gal struggles with her weight for sure, has had lots of support from family and friends, but she is a hero to me. 

I hope to be able to talk to you off line to see what your 'secrets' are.  If u haven't written a book yet, it's time to get out the word processor!  There are lotsof parents out here ready to read it.

My best to you and your daughter.

Sorry it took me so long to respond - I don't spend a lot of time on-line.  Have to admit I got curious about seeing whether any dialogue was continuing on the subject.  Thank you for your positive feedback on my comments.  I remember 4 years old - it was tough but I also remember how loving and sweet my baby always was. 

  

I am open to communicating with you off-line - just not sure how to achieve that without sending my e-mail address to all and sundry. 

  

I have talked about writing a short book and once my job balances out somewhat - speaking at conferences.  I picked up a lot of useful coping strategies which I know can work - because they did.  I was luck y to have a lot of creative people around me with helpful suggestions.  I was also never in denial - so that makes bringing up any child with challenges more doable.   

  

I think today persons with PW have a great opportunity to live good, healthy lives.  We know more about the problem, this generation of parents are creative and resourceful.   

  

Hopefully, if Dr Phil staff reads this, they will know that they have my permission to put the two of us in touch via e-mail and then I would be pleased to talk to you on a more one-on-one basis. 

  

Hug your little one - rejoice in every step she takes and take a long walk when things get tough! 

  

Cheers,  Diane 

  

  

 
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December 10, 2005, 12:23 pm PST

THANKS, from NICHELLE...

Hello, everyone. I took some time out last week to write a quick note to all of you, however it was never posted. I have no clue why.....what a waste of time that was! Well, I wanted to write and thank ALL of you who took the time to write. I have read ALL messages and appreciate them ALL. I ESPECIALLY appreciate all of you that came on here and stuck up for me. THANK YOU. Im glad to have the support of so many. You guys made my day.  Dr. Phil and his wonderful staff have done wonders for us and things are moving along beautifully. Savannah is going to get involved in some play groups and such and Im leaving for 3 weeks to train for a new job. While Im away Ill have lots of time to regroup. When I return Ill have a great paying, wonderful job. So once again..thanks. HOPE THIS GETS POSTED, This time........
 
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December 20, 2005, 3:21 pm PST

Good luck and God be with YOU!!

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Hello, everyone. I took some time out last week to write a quick note to all of you, however it was never posted. I have no clue why.....what a waste of time that was! Well, I wanted to write and thank ALL of you who took the time to write. I have read ALL messages and appreciate them ALL. I ESPECIALLY appreciate all of you that came on here and stuck up for me. THANK YOU. Im glad to have the support of so many. You guys made my day.  Dr. Phil and his wonderful staff have done wonders for us and things are moving along beautifully. Savannah is going to get involved in some play groups and such and Im leaving for 3 weeks to train for a new job. While Im away Ill have lots of time to regroup. When I return Ill have a great paying, wonderful job. So once again..thanks. HOPE THIS GETS POSTED, This time........
 Hi Nichelle:

I wish you the very best of luck with your "new life".  I know that you and your kids will be happier and healthier thanks to the Dr. Phil's intervention!!!

If they do a follow-up can you PLEASE ask them to show ALL sides of PWS.  All shows since Danny was born almost 2 years ago have had Maribel screaming at the ice cream truck.  Although, I feel for her family and greatly appreciate their efforts, she is NOT the ONLY face of PWS.

We NEED to show more hopeful stories and they are out there, several people with PWS have graduated from college and yes, they still have their food issues, BUT if Dr. Phil really cares he will help us desperate parents find a cure for this hunger in PWS.

There is a wonderful organization of parents called the Foundation for Prader Willi Research and they/we have raised over $300,000.00 to date and funded 12 research grants to help find that cure for the hunger that would give "our", (yours and mine) kids the chance at an independent life.  Also, all of the experts agree that IF we find a cure for the hunger in PWS, it WILL work in the general population as well.  So, by studying PWS patients, they can FINALLY unlock the cure for obesity in the general population.

Please, please, please help us find that CURE!!!!!!!!!!

Nichelle, take care of yourself and may God Bless You and your beautiful Children!!!!!

Sincerely,

Joyce Opp
 
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February 11, 2006, 12:02 pm PST

GOOD LUCK NICHELLE.(from Mike in sweden)

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Hello, everyone. I took some time out last week to write a quick note to all of you, however it was never posted. I have no clue why.....what a waste of time that was! Well, I wanted to write and thank ALL of you who took the time to write. I have read ALL messages and appreciate them ALL. I ESPECIALLY appreciate all of you that came on here and stuck up for me. THANK YOU. Im glad to have the support of so many. You guys made my day.  Dr. Phil and his wonderful staff have done wonders for us and things are moving along beautifully. Savannah is going to get involved in some play groups and such and Im leaving for 3 weeks to train for a new job. While Im away Ill have lots of time to regroup. When I return Ill have a great paying, wonderful job. So once again..thanks. HOPE THIS GETS POSTED, This time........
 YOU NICHELLE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR,YOU KNEW YOU WERE ON THE WRONG ROAD AND ASKED FOR HELP ON NATIONAL TV IN MY EYES THAT SHOWS YOU ARE A STRONG WOMEN WHO WILL DO ANYTHING TO HELP BOTH YOURSELF AND YOUR DAUGHTER,NO WORRY YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES. SO GOOD LUCK AND STAY STRONG.
 
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March 29, 2006, 5:52 pm PST

PWS

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My 37-year-old son has Prader-Willi syndrome.  His father left me alone to raise Kirk and our wonderful daughter.  There is nothing more difficult than raising a child with PWS, especially with no support system.  They are trying beyond belief.  My daughter, 38,  is the only thing that saved me from suicide.  To this day, I have never had support from anyone in my family but my daughter, and we love Kirk dearly, but he is still a handful.  Heidi, you just don't get it.  Don't make God have to teach you compassion first-hand.   Nichelle has a road to tow that no one but a single mother with a PW child could possibly understand.

Hi, 

  

I am also a single women with 2 son one with PWS and he is 15 and the other is 21 and still lives with us.  Yes it is a struggle but WOW there is no money or no one that can give us what he has, showd us what he see's and feel how he feels, 

So Parents outthere that has a child with PWS just embrace that angel cause GOD gave us those children because he knew we could handle it!!! 

  

  

  

 
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July 15, 2006, 10:06 pm PDT

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

i am 39 and am anorexic my weight has always gone up and down but i never hear the end of it from my mother if i am over 10 pounds or if she thinks i even look fat i probably am not even 150 pounds and then she wonders why i am am anorexic. or frustrated with her i geuss she exspects me to be a perfect daughter i use to weigh almost 220 and i lost almost 80 pounds just in 6 months and now she is worried but i gained about 50 pounds in the last year but now she wont shut up that i need to lose about 60 pounds she is so obsessed about over weight people she wonders why i dont eat i have always been anorexic since i was 15 and i made a promice to myself not to be obsessive on my kids weight or make fun of anyone because i have to hear my mother everyday and it gets sicking after awhile i just want to tell her to shut up but i know better to do that because she would smack me. my mother is the type where is will tell you how she feels no matter whos around what i am saying is if you have a daughter dont be like my mother where all i heard from her is that i was fat and thats all i still here. i'm sure you dont want your child to have a eating disorder like me no the signs and get them help before it does more harm to them than good. get yourself help before its to late i dont want anyone to end up like me because there is no cure. thanks. smile now. tracy.   

 

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