Topic : 08/25 Extreme Food Obsessions

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Created on : Friday, October 28, 2005, 02:17:57 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/03/05) What if you were so obsessed with eating that it almost killed you, or craving food so badly that you yelled, kicked and screamed when you couldn't get enough. Nichelle's 6-year-old daughter has Prader-Willi Syndrome and constantly wants to eat. She once threw a fit so loud, the neighbors called the police. Can Nichelle learn to control her own temper when her daughter has a tantrum? Then, Dr. Phil follows up with Kathy, an anorexic whose condition was so severe, she weighed only 68 pounds. She spent three months in treatment, but her struggle is not over yet. Can her family learn the difference between supporting her and enabling her? Talk about the show here.

 

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September 8, 2006, 10:10 am PDT

extreme food obsessions

 I for one am staying on my food intake of fruits, vegtables, rice, bran flakes, this is the weight that I want to stay at. if everyone thinks that this is not the right way or an unhealthy diet so let it be. if I have to get to 69bls to do it then I will.


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September 17, 2006, 4:15 pm PDT

Thanks for your support.

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Dear Tracy,

 

Your mother does not know any better, She needs to be educated about eating disorders and How to help a loved one who has one.  Therapy for Both of you would be Ideal. If you do not think she would be willing. Tell her you need help in dealing with your eating disorder. Then while talking to your therapist I am sure if you let them know what you have said in this message they would try to get your mother the help that she needs  Parents think they are helping when they are actually making the situation worse. You say you are anorexic, but I think you may have a combination of eating disorders. If you can not go to therapy, Maybe there is an Overeater's anonymous group near you. The twelve step program, a sponsor and meetings would do anyone with an eating disorder good. I speak from experience.

 

I have been through drug addiction and an eating disorder with my daughter. I was never one of those mother to criticize her about her weight. (Even though my mother would)  I would tell her the truth, that her body was going through puberty and she would not always be this way, as her body matured and she grew taller she would naturally slim down. Along with a healthy diet and exercise.

 

She has always been very active and at the time was on a precision jump rope team. She even competed on a national level. Once she got to High School she chose Cheer-leading as her sport. She was 5'6" tall and Voluptuous not overweight to my standards, but kids at school (Her stick figure "Friends" and some rude boys) would tease her. They would actually make cow sounds when she would walk past and nobody did a thing about it. I can not believe a teacher did not hear this even once. BUT......that is a whole other battle...

 

But once she decided she wanted to get help for her drug addiction. She was 18  The inpatient program she went into realized that she also needed help with her eating disorder. So as part of her Intensive Out -atient treatment plan she was to complete the eating disorders program at a very good hospital in our town that specializes in eating disorders. As well as IOP treatment for drug addiction along with going to NA meetings, getting a sponsor and working the twelve step program.  She has been clean and sober and eating healthy for almost three years now. She is expecting her first child in January. She realizes she will always have thoughts of using drugs or acting out on her eating disorder, but she has learned through these programs she has done that she has the choice not to act out, not to use drugs. She has been given the tools to save herself. I was most grateful for the parent education that the inpatient program offered. I learned so much, I also learn what I was doing wrong during the years I knew she was using drugs ( I thought she was smoking pot) I was so naive. So sometimes parents can be wrong and need to learn how to do better.

 

I wish you the best. You can save yourself too.

Navymom

        Navymom,

Hi thanks for your apply. I haven't lived at home since I was 18. But I live near her and she is very obsessed about me and my sister being heavy or not having a perfect body like today's generation

expects every girl to as they grow up to be a women. My mother would literally put me on a diet when I was growing up if I looked just a bit heavy my sister use to be thin when she was younger she had the perfect body now she is close to a size 22 in pants and my mom contantly redacuiles about my sister weight behind her back. Oh my mother is quite educated on eating disorders because I have been in treatment centers and therpy for anorexia and belemia. I was  made fun of in school because I wasn't part of the so called click or very popular. I was called some bad names because I didn't have the perfect body or because they just didn't like me because I didn't go to hollister all my life which I moved there when I was in the 9th grade. I was even called boota lips by this one guy because he thought my lips was to big for a white girl. He tormented everyone he was not very nice.All through high school up until I graduated these certain girls would make fun of me and mock me all the time because they new I wouldn't stand up to them. They would call me fat cow or even say fatty fatty two by four couldn't fit through the bathdoor that saying kind of got old some of the words were so bad I would skip school so I wouldn't have to listen to it. My sister has always been very protective of me and always will because I have been made fun all my life do to I have learning disability and have had seizures since I was 13.Even when I weighed 140 lbs. and I'm 5'9 in my 10 th grade year the girls that was part of that click still would make comments Oh look at that fat thing walkin' down the hall they would even start rumors about me and gossip about me things that weren't even true. That's probably why I have no selfesteem my mother would take me to weight watchers with her when I turned 14 and would tell what to eat when we would go out to eat and ever since then I still feel if I eat to much food or at all I'm going to get  fatter. Every time I look in the mirror that's all I see is someone who is fat and needs to lose more weight I can't even look in the mirror hardly anymore. All I here from my mom anymore is Chris this and that like my sister has done everything but my mom makes me feel like I'm nothing half the time and treats me like I'm 14 still. Most of may family are alcoholics or meth heads. I don't drink and I have never done drugs. My mother doesn't drink but she thinks she is so perfect and expects her daughters to be that way but if their not she must make sure they get way. I'm not anything like her I am totally oppisit I am the mellow type where the rest of my family is upfront and very outspoken. Thanks again I will try to get back in therapy when I can but my insuranse won't cover any inpatient therapy. My best friend has been trying to be supportive and help me through this. Hopefully my mom can be more educated and stop judging people because of there weight or by the way thry dress. Tell your daughter keep up the good work tell her I will praying for her also.

 

        Sincerley,

          tracy

 
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November 22, 2006, 1:06 pm PST

Looking for help with Aspergers

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 Hi Nichelle,

I've watched your story last Thursday.  I was a little disturbed by the Bathroon Footage, because I saw the fear in your Daughter's face.  I commend you for seeking help with your situation.  I know where you're comming from.  I was a Difficult Child myself.  My Family has been dealing with my Aspergers for 31 years, now.  I drove them nuts as a Child.  I had my little Fixations and Rituals.  I even had my own Little Rules.  If anybody broke one of my rules, I gave them a lecture.  I haven't completly grown out of my Condition.  I've been fixated on London for most of my life and I was going off about how I get grumpy if I can't have my Afternoon Tea, yesterday.  I was even called a Typical Londoner by a member of my Family.  I have faith that you will get all the help that you need.  It's hard to ask for help, but the effort pays off when you get it.

hi Nichelle,

    Maybe since you have Aspergers, you can help me to help my son. He is 24, on SSI & Medicaid. He sees a social worker & a psychiatrist, both whom know nothing about Aspergers. The government is extrememely slow & not educated on our needs. I am actually going to look for a counselor myself to see if I can find someone who knows about Aspergers to get help to help him. There is a specialist down the street, the only one around, but he is not on our insurance & doesn't take Medicaid. This is quite upsetting, so close but not able to get the help needed. My son is quite rebellious. He knows he has problems  & this makes him angrier. He didn't do well in special education in high school so we know he can't handle college. He hasn't been able to hold down a job, has lost 3 in the last few yrs.  Our Bureau of Vocational Rehabilitation doesn't stay with him long enough. As soon as the coach stops working with him, our son goes downhill.  I am wondering what is next. I know more about Aspergers than the specialists around here,  but I  don't know how to help him anymore.  We do all the typical things, having him repet what we say, roll playing. I have read all the books in the library & follow the advice, but  the advice doesn't help the rebellion. He lives with us & has to be in the right mood to help with household chores. Today is his 3rd day of depression over a matter that a neuro typical would have released with in an hour & gone on with  whatever was next, like house work.

 

I wish I knew what to do, but no one else seems to be able to help much either.

 

So, I hang in there one day at a time.

 
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December 22, 2006, 5:07 am PST

08/25 Extreme Food Obsessions

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You sound just like me.  I had issues with exercising....I had that "all or nothing" attitude, though----Once I would get going with exercising-if something would happen and I missed exercise for one day I gave up completely.    I used to get bored with exercise and give up the whole shebang...the diet and exercise.   Since August, I have started counting my calorie intake and doing alittle exercise.    I have looked up tips on exercise and it is recommended to change up the routine alittle so as to not get bored.  I have videos and dumbbells and treadmill, etc....so I change up the exercise when it gets annoying to do.   I am now down almost 30lbs and it just motivates me to keep going.  If I do miss the exercise--I no longer give up the entire thing....This is for life and I just get back on track the next day.  Oh, and I do drink at least 64oz of water a day. I wish you the best of luck with your weightloss.  Feel free to email me if you would like a buddy.  :)

 

 

I have only been excercising for about a month. It does get boring some times, I noticed you said you were counting your calories. I went to my doctor yesterday and she wants me to do the same. YUCK Anyway do you have any ideas on food that taste good but is low in cals. I know salad and the norm. Is there anything that you really like?

 
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February 4, 2007, 8:16 pm PST

BODY DYSMORPHIC DISORDER & SELF ABUSE

Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD) is a psychological disease characterized with an obsession of perceived flaws in the sufferer's appearance. In reality these flaws are minimal or nonexistent, yet to the sufferer they are very real and can create extreme anxiety, obsessive thoughts, and compulsive behaviors.  Some of my favorite reads that provide a great introduction and insight into the subject are: 

 

The Broken Mirror:  Understanding and Treating Body Dysmorphic Disorder by Katharine Phillips

 

Eating Disorders by Pamela Keel

 

A Bright Red Scream:  Self-Mutilation and the Language of Pain by Marilee Strong

 

Because the perceived physical defect in BDD isn't apparent to others, BDD can be a difficult disease to understand, accept, seek help and treat.  The late Princess Diana, also suffered from the eating disorders that characterize between 35 to 80 percent of all cutters. 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 
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September 24, 2007, 11:49 am PDT

08/25 Extreme Food Obsessions

Nichelle really needs to take Dr. Phil's advice about her parenting techniques. She cannot justify being phyisical with her daughter, calling her names, making fun of her, swearing at her, or expecting her to be a saint. She's a hypocrite to do that because she can't control her own behavior. Maribel Riviera's family deals with her in a proper way. Although, I do have to admit that because I had never heard of PWS before when I saw this episode I was completely shocked when I saw the behaviors of these girls. Especially when Savannah was constantly stuffing her herself. It was also shocking when Maribel threw a tantrum when she did not get ice cream and when she begged strangers to buy her a hot dog.
 
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October 13, 2007, 10:40 am PDT

Freulich Syndrome?

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I couldn't agree more.  You gotta laugh to keep from crying.  As a Christian, I know God gives me specific skills for specific tasks.  Sometimes I don't always know what that is, but the purpose eventually comes to light.  I don't always like the task asked of me, but who am I to say "NO"?    I am so sad for my mother-in-law.  She had such a difficult life & didn't quite understand "why me"?  But she did the best she could with what she had at the time, and believe me....in the 1950's there wasn't a whole lot of protocol going around.  Her mother constantly reminded her that her conception was not only an accident, but that she was also a living abortion.  Fast forward to marriage at age 16, and 5 childbirths in rapid succession left her with:
 

  1. Son#1 born in 1951 with Prader-Willi Syndrome & Freulich Syndrome.
  2. Daughter#1 born in 1952 with extra fingers, toes & a brain tumor on her optic nerve.  She died in 1953 at 9 months old during unsuccessful brain surgery.
  3. Son#2 born in 1954 with extra fingers, toes & cerebral palsy.
  4. Son#3 born in 1955 physically normal, but gay (I'm not going there).
  5. Son#4 born in 1957 physically normal (my ex-husband).
  6. Mother died in November 1979 of long term terminal cancer.
  7. Husband died in Jan 1980 at age 51of complications suffered in a fall that left him quadriplegic for 6 weeks.
  8. Son#1 died in the summer of 1996 of heart disease brought on by Prader-Willi Syndrome.
  9. Mother-in-law died in 2001 of no known cause.

We never know what's next in our lives.  But I agree that not only should we live the golden rule, but help out where ever we can.  It's not going to kill us to babysit once in a while so that any parent (single or otherwise) of a child with lifelong health challenges can have a break.  I thank God everyday for the life he's given me & the things that he's shown me.  Now it's time to pay it forward.  Thank you for writing.  I'll keep you in my prayers too.
 

 

 

Can you tell me about this syndrome? Please!!!

 
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October 13, 2007, 10:44 am PDT

Your Attitude!

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First off I have to say your child is beautiful, second off if she is a spoiled brat maybe you need to come to terms with whos is the real person to blame. Ur daughter is still young and you getting in her face and telling her you're gonna kill her and kick her ass! You should be reported! That's absolutely NO excuse. Every kid throws tantrums. They are young they test waters. You're letting her get away with it then you're yelling and hitting her. Ur confusing this poor child. Yes she has an eating disorder but ur her mother so care and nurture her like you should be. In my opinion ur crazy as hell! You seem like a sad person urself don't take it out on her!

 

 

 

               Nichelle, it is your attitude that people hate.  If you are frustrated then you need to take a time out.  Don't call your children brats.

 
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November 2, 2007, 12:49 pm PDT

Freulich Syndrome or Prader Willi Syndrome?

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Can you tell me about this syndrome? Please!!!

 

I'm not a doctor, but there are some similarities between the two syndromes; thus the difficulty of accurate diagnosis in the past.  Try checking the internet under Genetic Disorders and/or Syndromes.  Also check the Merck Manual, if they are still around. 

 
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December 12, 2007, 8:48 am PST

Nichelle Just Does Not Get It!

 

 

                   It looks like Nichelle just does not get it.  When she was on the show she was not acknowledging her problems and therefore not trying to change them.  She was trying to justify her behavior.  Then even after the show she was still trying to defend her actions by calling both of her daughters spoiled brats.  I cannot beleive her.  Even if her daughters are spoiled it's obvious who's to blame: her.

 

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