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Created on : Friday, October 28, 2005, 02:17:57 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/03/05) What if you were so obsessed with eating that it almost killed you, or craving food so badly that you yelled, kicked and screamed when you couldn't get enough. Nichelle's 6-year-old daughter has Prader-Willi Syndrome and constantly wants to eat. She once threw a fit so loud, the neighbors called the police. Can Nichelle learn to control her own temper when her daughter has a tantrum? Then, Dr. Phil follows up with Kathy, an anorexic whose condition was so severe, she weighed only 68 pounds. She spent three months in treatment, but her struggle is not over yet. Can her family learn the difference between supporting her and enabling her? Talk about the show here.

 

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November 3, 2005, 1:17 pm PST

Just watched your show...

I was so discussed in Savanna's mother, I thought how dare you treat this beautiful little girl with such anger, bitterness,  cooldness, and worst of all, ABUSE. 

Your children are what you teach them, how you see them, is a reflection of you, 

 I felt so sad for Savanna and cried when I heard the named Savannas mother called her , yelled at her and hit her...ya no. Savanna didnt asked to be born, or have Prader-Willi Syndrome,the least you could do is raise her to the best of your ability, and im sure you know you can do better then what your doing now . 

I am surprised that your family or friends have not reported you for abuse...In my eyes you need some serious help...Parenting classes , Therapy, Im not sure what, Im not  Dr.   

But,         I do wish you the best and do hope you find the help you and your daughter need. 

  

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Angela 

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Canada. 

  
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:25 pm PST

Not offensive to me!!

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I really hope this doesn't offend ANY readers on here today, but after I saw the show today with Michelle & her daughter, this was just a thought that came to me.  I know it might sound awful to some, (including me because I myself have a baby that I would NEVER give up for anything in this world) but if Michelle doesn't feel that she can control herself or learn to accept and deal with her daughter's condition, maybe she should consider adopting her daughter out to someone who WOULD be able to handle it, love her, and care for her in the way she needs.    

  

Hopefully that doesn't offend.  If it does, I apologize.  But I just find it sad that her daughter has to live with that kind of treatement, as well as feeling bad for Michelle that she is living the life she is, and feeling the way she is...  Anyway, I just hope things work out.  Looks like a very tough situation, and I know it would be hard for ME also if I ever were faced with a situation like that.  .  .  

    I agree that it is sad that Nichelle's daughter has been living with this kind of treatment for who knows how long.  I am sorry that Nichelle's daughter has the condition that she does and it must be hard for Nichelle to swallow at times.  I am a firm believer that GOD DOES NOT GIVE US MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE.  I believe that Nichelle has the smarts, the patience, the know how some where in her to handle this situation very well.  I just think that she has, unfortunately, resorted to letting the frustration she must feel get the best of her.  I hope that this trip to Dr. Phil's show has opened her eyes to the damage that she has done to her daughter.  I also hope that she took away from being on the show a desire to educate herself more on the condition her daughter has and to make the best of life for her and her kids. I think that adoption would only cause more pain and tumoil in both of their lives.  It's a wonderful blessing that there is still a chance for Nichelle and her daughter to make up for time lost.  If Nichelle decides to seek the proper help and support that they could both benefit from I do believe that they will both be a lot happier when all is said and done.  I just hope that the abuse...no matter what form...is at it's definet end.  There is never any reason for it!!!!  EVER!!!!!!!
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:27 pm PST

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

First, I empathize that you have to live with a PWS child.  However, it isn't fair to the child to cut her down as you do. What I saw is abusive.  I'm really glad that you are trying to get help with this situation but there are resources out there that can help you with these issues.  To her, you are her world. She looks to you for everything, its very important to discipline in love. I only say these things because I came from a physically and verbally abusive background and have had to deal with many issues over the years because of this.  I'm now 34 and have a child of my own and work every day at making sure my child knows I love him, even when he does wrong.  Personally, I don't feel Dr. Phil was hard on you either.  I think you needed to hear this.     

  

I really hope the best for you.  You did the right thing coming on tv to find out what can be done.  I hope you are able to use the resources provided.  Take Dr. Phil's advice and get the support you need.  Others that deal with this can be one of your best resources. 

  

  
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:31 pm PST

She does not understand

I am very sad to hear how Savanna's mother is treating her. I have an 8 year old disabled daughter. I was told she either had Prader Willi or Angelman Syndrome, she has angelmans. I could never imagine treating her that way. My child doe's not talk or walk. She is a Gift from God, so is Savannna. Her mother needs to think about what she is doing, parents are not to treat there children like this. Savanna does not comprehend what all is going on and her mother needs to undersand that. She also needs to know that calling her names does not help, it hurts. Retarded is a word that should not be used at all. That what kids say, and that is what she is acting like. I want to ask Savanna's mother why hit her, she needs love, kindness, and a hug. Her syndrome is not going to go away and she needs to understand that. I take what God gave me one day at a time and it can be hard, but I would never hit or call my daughter names.
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:32 pm PST

reported to authorities

I really hope that the woman on the show today gets help before that child is harmed any more.  I can imagine it is extremely frustrating dealing with what she deals with on a regular basis and I think it took a lot of guts to come on the show, but what she is doing is abuse. ... physical and mental and last time I heard that is illegal to beat and verbally abuse your child.    I can't ever fathom calling any of my children names, let alone hitting them.... it just pained me to see her defend any of that behavior even for a second.  I was in a relationship where I was beaten and ya know what?  I never got any discipline from having someone beat me or yell at me.  I don't think he was too hard on her in the slightest and as a matter of fact I believe she needs an ultimatum of getting immediate help or being reported to the authorities. 
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:33 pm PST

living with an eating disorder

I am a young woman who suffers from 'binge eating' disorder. Many people do not believe binge eating disorder in an addiction but I am here to say that it is. I binge as a result of high levels of anxiety. I am a person who has always had an immense amount of evergy and after a trauma in 2004 my enegry was transformed into this addiction of self soothing by eating as fast as I can and as much as I can. When people think of eating disorders they think of anorexia and bulimia; both very serious disorders. I am only here to say I struggle with an addiction. This is the most difficult battle of my life. I have watched my body as it dropped 25 pounds due to starvation and watched the weight come back on rapidly. Up and down...for so long. I speak to an eating disorder specialist on a weekly basis and sometimes it helps but I am at the point where I have tried to change my behavior so many times that I am left feel hopeless and frustrated; of which are two emotions I am not usually plagued by. I am a goal oriented person who is otherwise highly motivated. Maybe someone has a similar story and would like to share. To anyone suffering from any type of eating disorder...remember we are strong. We can concquer it. it is a hard road to travel, many do not understand, but it is possible. Be well
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:38 pm PST

can someone help the reluctant underweight

I am underweight and skinny and i totally hate being this way.    I am just not interested in food.  Ihave to force myself to eat and it still doesn't work I find it hard to believe there are people who have to fight to resist overeating, i wish i had that problem, i have tried everything from protein supplements multi-vitamins and nothing helps.  If I am very hungry (which is rare)  I only need to just put 5 bites in my mouth and i am okay I can never finish a Macdonald combo that is too much food for me.  Are there any people like me out there? is there anyone who can help us?  My bmi is 17 but I am healthy I never get sick , never been in  hospital except when I gave birth a year ago, I gained some weight during the pregnancy and I was very happy with myself I really looked  good and i felt good about myself for the first time in my lif,  but when i stopped breasfeeding at 6 months  then the  weight disappeared and i went  back to 95llbs. i have a very healthy baby who is actually a little too big for her age, however i fear that I may make her obese in order to avoid her going through life skinny. 

  

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Reluctant underweight 
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:41 pm PST

PWS

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Nichelle, although I am not a parent of a PWS child, I am 28 and the sister of a 27 year old PWS woman. I was struck by your comment that "she knows that she shouldn't do it" as it resonated within my own experience. I know that when I was younger I often had that frustrating thought again and again, but only found it to be paralyzing. It was an easy out that made me feel OK about any bad behavior I'd exhibit toward my sister. I am not always proud of how I maneuvered myself in my relationship with her in the past and harbor much guilt about it. I am lucky compared to you, however, I was just a child and did not have the tools to always deal with her in a positive way. Now that I am an adult, I am trying to reconnect with her in order to realize the full potential of having her as an incredible force in my life. Don't misbehave now to regret it later. I absolutely sympathize with you and cannot begin to pretend that I know how it feels to be the mother of Savannah. I wish you strength and education in order to successfully deal with your life long journey. Take a Learning and Behavior course at your local community college or even just buy a text book over the net ( a great, easy to read one is : Learning & Behavior by Paul Chance, it's out in its 5th edtion right now, ISBN 0-534-59868-4). If only I had known then what I know now. There are so many ways to curb her unwanted behaviors and have peace in your house.
 I am not the parent of a PW child and really don't know much about the condition.  But I did work for a man whose son does have PW and I was and still am amazed with the training he gave his child.  Rick is now over 20 years old and lives away from home. When I first met Rich and his son Rick, Rick was 15 and the normal weight for his age.  He did not eat constantly and his parents controlled what he ate and when he ate.  He was always to leave food on his plate and to leave drink in his cup.  I know there was a constant fight with Rick on this and they had to padlock the frig and freezer.  And even put sensors on his bedroom door.  Rick was never abused and seemed happy.  I keep telling Rich he needs to write a book on how he raised a happy, normal weight PW child.
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:44 pm PST

Prader Willi and a happy life

I just watched the Dr Phil episode dealing with Prader Willi.  In the first few minutes I was in tears.  Thank you Dr Phil for offering help to Michelle--- because it doesn't have to be this way!!!  I'm a parent of a 26 year old son with PWS and I've experienced my share of meltdowns--- but also my share of unconditional love from this child.   Mom needs a realistic view of her own daughter-- and tools to help her maintian some control.   Every parent of a child with PWS can relate to the tantrums, food seeking, and weight gain--- but their are many success stories as well.  My son is living in a group home with 7 other young adults with PWS and is healthy and happy!!!  After reaching a top weight of about 270 in his early 20's--- he has lost 135 pounds-- and kept it off for 4+ years.  He is proud to be "on his own" but had the love and support of alot of great staff--- and of course his family!   Michelle will deal with PWS for the rest of her (or Savannah's) life--- anything she can do to pull that life into balance will help her take time and enjoy the boundless love this child has to give her.
 
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November 3, 2005, 1:44 pm PST

Family member with PWS

I have a cousin with PWS and he is in his 40s.  I have never seen him act the way the people have on the show.  Maybe that was because how his parents raised him. They have locks on their refridgerator and pantry.  They have to tell him when to stop eating and when he can have a snack.  He has mental problems and nobody in the family has ever treated him like he is any different. 
 
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