Topic : 08/25 Extreme Food Obsessions

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Created on : Friday, October 28, 2005, 02:17:57 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/03/05) What if you were so obsessed with eating that it almost killed you, or craving food so badly that you yelled, kicked and screamed when you couldn't get enough. Nichelle's 6-year-old daughter has Prader-Willi Syndrome and constantly wants to eat. She once threw a fit so loud, the neighbors called the police. Can Nichelle learn to control her own temper when her daughter has a tantrum? Then, Dr. Phil follows up with Kathy, an anorexic whose condition was so severe, she weighed only 68 pounds. She spent three months in treatment, but her struggle is not over yet. Can her family learn the difference between supporting her and enabling her? Talk about the show here.

 

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November 3, 2005, 8:07 pm PST

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

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 I too watched tonights episode on Robin, the 6 year old with PWS.    I can't begin to understand the daily challenges that Nichelle goes thru with her daughter.  I am also a mother, and yes I have days that I just want to scream at the top of my lungs.  What bothered me the MOST about this mother was her lack of information about her daughters condition.  I think her "Im in denial" excuse is lame.  When my son was 2 weeks old he was diagnosed with "Pyloric Stenosis". I had no clue what that was, but you can bet your a** that I buried myself in research about it until I knew all there was to know about it.  Thankfully, it was curable by a surgical condition. My point is, I think Nichelle showed lack of concern and responsibility when she did not FULLY educate herself about her daughters condition. 
Also, where was the father in all of this??  There was no mention of the father at all, was just curious.
 Yes I did notice her lack of info and knowledge of her daughters condition.  However, not to exuse her behavior, my husband and I had to jump through circus hoops just to get doctors and people to listen to our concerns because we were so young.  Doctors and people just assumed that we were the problem and making mountains out of mole hills.  But it is much easier to obtaine info now that it was back then.  thanks for your response.
 
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November 3, 2005, 8:19 pm PST

I Loved the book

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I was so relieved to read your post. I love watching the Dr. phil show, but....I just left my second treatment center that I have been in this year. Anorexia is so glorified on TV...seeing the bones is a huge trigger for me. It seems like TV shows flash pictures of the worst cases on TV and quote weights up and down. here is my thought.....if you wouldn't ask or post the weights of "normal" people (because it is considered RUDE), why in the world would anyone post and talk about the weight of a person who is obviously more sensitive about it than the average population? I feel pulled to watch the show, but am scared to death of being triggered into relapse. I am already holding on for my life as it is....I wish that someone would do a show about anorexia and bulemia without focusing on pictures of people at their sickest.  The public already seems to think that eating disorders are about food. Dr. Phil says that you can't fix money problems with money. I say you can't fix anorexia with food. If only he could say that.... 

  

On a better note, the author of Life Without Ed will be on the show, and that is the best book I've ever read about eating disorders. It's as if the author has climbed into my head and written all of my thoughts on paper.  

 think the reason is not to hurt...but to show those with eating disorders and their families, that if Kathy, being as far into the disease as she was, could go into recovery there is hope for many.  She was in a far place...this is not to diminish yours or anyone else's ED.  But, if Kathy can beat it....where she was, than so can You!  That is the point..... Not to show you shocking pictures or to stir emotions but I am sure Dr. Phil in his "real" ways, wanted to show that it is possible for YOU to beat this....!  It is about healing and hoping....and I truly believe that is what his message was about today. I am sure Kathy will be an inspiration to many…. If she can make it, being this extreme, then there is hope for a lot of people out there with Eating Disorders that didn’t think they had a chance. 
 
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November 3, 2005, 8:27 pm PST

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So...I watched the show today, and it was indeed rather triggering. I believe that the phrase "the road to destruction is paved with good intentions" is appropriate here.  The root of eating disorders is not food. It is a symptom. People who don't understand or know about eating disorders focus on weight, appearance, and food. When I have been in treatment, yes, I have gained weight. My biggest (as well as the others I've been with in treatment) fear in coming out of treatment is that those around me will focus on my weight and my appearance. The more you focus on the symptom, the harder it is for a person with an eating disorder to remember that the food is not the problem. For once, I'd like to see a person who actually knows about and works with eating disorders do a show on one. I'd like to see someone talk about the REAL issues underlying the problem. That way, a person warching with an eating disorder can actually begin the road to recovery.  Those who are supporting the person with the ED can start to have a clue how to help. Believe it or not, a person with anorexia knows, at least in a head knowledge way, that their health is in jeopardy. Oh yes...and the last thing that I ever want to see is a before and after picture. Body image is the last thing to get better, so seeing before pictures of myself only triggers that focus-on-my-body mechanism to kick in. For a person with anorexia, thin is actually beautiful and a mark of pride, accomplishment, and self control. Those are just my thoughts.
are you suggesting that I dont understand?
 
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November 3, 2005, 8:31 pm PST

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Also,  

I agree with the people who say stop buying junk food.  Sometimes genetic disease are made worse by the environment. You should be reading up on what food research has shown alleviate PW Syndrome.  I thought I heard something from another parent about not eating any dairy products or maybe it was only dairy products.  Reward your daughter by feeding her.  My professional advice is that she always have a cold bottle of water (so she feels full) or milk and a box of a dozen popsicles a day is not going to hurt her.  Tell her she can have unsalted homemade potatoe cubes but  ask her if she first will drink a full cup of kool-aid and then ask her if she wants another, before she can have the potatoes.  Something where you used healthy foods to reward her.  Plan ahead that you will have to feed her veggies and sandwich halves 12 times a day.  

  

I'll go to the university library and research you conditions myself..It may take a week, but I will post my finding. 

  

Please feel free to add me to you mailing list, and contact me some time.  Your path is right up my alley. 

  

Jaclyn

 

OK Jaclyn, 

  I'm sure you mean well, and I'm glad you referred the readers to looking into things to help PWS, but unfortunately there IS NO CURE!!!!  For those who need to know.  Rewarding by feeding is one of THE WORST thing you can do.  As far as water goes...for some bizzare reason most children with PWS simply will not drink plain water.  Read on the message boards yourself...it's not as simple as it sounds.  Milk has way too many calories and a dozen popscicles a day will KILL a child with PWS.  Most people(including adults) with PWS have to be on an 800-1000 a day diet....not a temporary diet...but a lifelong 800-1000 a day diet.  The metabolism is only about 60% that of a "typical" individuals.  So, if you are feeding popscicles, milk, kool-aid etc.....your child will either only be getting junk foods, or will be being fed way too many calories.  A great reward for our kids are stickers....fun activities they enjoy....but never food.  If you are truly interested in finding out more or helping our kids go to www.pwsausa.org or www.pwsresearch.org.  I'm thankful that people are interested in knowing more how to help our kids....but PLEASE understand that this is THE most complicated genetic disorder!!   

  

Thanks again,
Lindi 

mom to Maddi 2 1/2 with PWS (not overweight...due to lots of diligence) 

 
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November 3, 2005, 8:32 pm PST

Life without Ed (Eating Disorders)

Hi everyone, 

  

Today on the show, a wonderful woman by the name of Jenni Schaefer appeared.  She has written a book that has saved the lives of hundreds.   

  

Jenni has suffered with the crippling effects of the diseases of bulimia and anorexia.  She wants all to know who suffer that THERE IS HOPE.  YOU CAN RECOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  She is living proof.   

  

With all the resources out there on these diseases, it may seem overwhelming as to where to turn for help. 

  

May I suggest the one in which I guarantee will be different than all others:  Life Without Ed.  Ed is an acronym for Eating Disorder.  Again, Jenni is a walking example of what recovery is.  

  

We are very proud of Jenni and her accomplishments.  She has had to overcome some huge obstacles.  I don't know if you remember her smile from today's show, but it is one that warms my heart.  She has learned to smile against some pretty tough odds!   

  

You too can feel peace again.  Try the book and Jenni's amazing technique for the true road to recovery.  And I promise it is a remarkable technique that is EASY to do.  Easy to read also. 

  

God Bless, 

Destiny 

  

  

 
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November 3, 2005, 8:32 pm PST

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

I have been struggling with anorexia for more years than I would like to say. It makes me sad to say that I was jealous that Dr. Phil helped this girl get good help for her eating disorder. I am extremely low income and disabled so I don't have good insurance or much money so good treatment centers like Castlewood are out of my reach. My therapist wanted me to go into Castlewood but they don't take my insurance and I don't have any money or any way of getting any money so when I saw that he helped her to get the help I felt sad. I know this sounds terrible but I want help so badly but just can't afford it. I fear eventually I will die from this.
 
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November 3, 2005, 8:34 pm PST

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After watching today's show I couldn't help but be saddened to see a woman blessed with a child treat her little angel like a nuisance. I know that I have never been in her situation, but I do have a handicap cousin, whom my family has loved all the more because of his uniqueness. Also, I couldn't help but notice that firstly the mother wasn't exactly fit as a fiddle herself, but secondly all the foods that her daughter was consuming was junk. Don't you think that if you had a child that had this syndrome, you would try not to even introduce such fatty and sugary foods into their diet. Maybe her mother needs to make a sacrifice of healthy eating for the whole family. I don't know what to think of a mother like that!!!
 
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November 3, 2005, 8:37 pm PST

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Quote From: wovoice

are you suggesting that I dont understand?

what was helpful when you came out of treatment? 

  

  

 
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November 3, 2005, 8:43 pm PST

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Quote From: wovoice

are you suggesting that I dont understand?
I am sorry if i offended you in any way
 
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November 3, 2005, 8:59 pm PST

Prader-Willi Syndrome Grandma

I am the Grandma of a beautiful 7 year old girl who was diagnosed with Prader-Will Syndrome when she was 22 months old.  I remember the overwhelming shock when we researched all of the symptoms of Prader-Willi Syndrome. Each described symptom seemed stranger and worse than the last. Then we looked at this child and said, "What can we do to help make her life better?" 

  

I was eager to see the Dr. Phil segment on Prader-Willi. ( Set the recorder and everything.) Of course, I expected the terrible hunger to be the main topic.  It is a remarkable symptom!  The idea that no matter what or how much my little grand daughter eats, she will always  be hungry  is so difficult to accept.  People with Prader-Willi sometimes describe it as "sharks biting me inside all the time". I know I don't like to be hungry...no one does. How would you like to feel like you were starving no matter how much you ate? 

  

But this is a genetic disorder caused by a deletion or damage to chromosome 15. Neither she nor her parents has any more control over this than they  would over the color of her eyes or skin. 

I have read some of the messages from well-meaning but misinformed people on this site. If you really want to understand what we know about PWS, just go to www.pwsusa.org . Or just Google Prader-Willi Syndrome. 

  

I was surprised that Dr. Phil and his staff chose a self admitted abusive mother like Nichelle to introduce the topic of Prader-Willi Syndrome on his show. But, I am a faithful viewer and I was grateful  for  any information about this genetic disorder to reach the public. 

  

As I watched the show, so many emotions rolled over me. I wanted to hug little Savanah. Then I wanted to shake Nichelle until her teeth rattled. Then I remembered her daughter was recently diagnosed and she could be in shock, anger and denial of the whole thing.  But, when my daughter found out about her daughter's diagnosis, she was in all these stages too and she only felt love and compassion and a strong desire to help and protect her daughter.  

  

NIchelle needs help with her parenting skills and a LOT of education about Prader-Willi Syndrome. I sincerely hope she takes advantage of any help she is offered for her sake, but mostly for her little girl's sake. 

  

One more thing...so many times only the terrible parts of Prader-Willi Syndrome are talked about. Let me add that  PWS kids are very loving and anxious to please.   We have filled my grand daughter's life with love and she returns it a thousand times over.  I am amazed all the time by her generous spirit, her silly sense of humor, the hugs she gives to all she meets and the eternal innocence of her soul. Prader-Willi Syndrome does not define who she is.  She's just a little girl who needs some extra help to get through life and anyone who helps her receives so much in return. 

 

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