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(Original Air Date: 11/03/05) What if you were so obsessed with eating that it almost killed you, or craving food so badly that you yelled, kicked and screamed when you couldn't get enough. Nichelle's 6-year-old daughter has Prader-Willi Syndrome and constantly wants to eat. She once threw a fit so loud, the neighbors called the police. Can Nichelle learn to control her own temper when her daughter has a tantrum? Then, Dr. Phil follows up with Kathy, an anorexic whose condition was so severe, she weighed only 68 pounds. She spent three months in treatment, but her struggle is not over yet. Can her family learn the difference between supporting her and enabling her? Talk about the show here.

 

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November 3, 2005, 11:24 pm PST

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

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are you suggesting that I dont understand?
I totally agree,  I am not bulimic only b/c I think I am fat or something.  I know that 110 pounds isn't obese!  I have so many underlying issues that trigger and that my bulimia just feeds off of.  Purging is a release of emotions that I don't want to deal with on my own.  If anyone has simular problems and would like someone to talk to write me at mistyandmelise@hotmail.com.  Thanks
 
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November 3, 2005, 11:34 pm PST

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I am a young woman who suffers from 'binge eating' disorder. Many people do not believe binge eating disorder in an addiction but I am here to say that it is. I binge as a result of high levels of anxiety. I am a person who has always had an immense amount of evergy and after a trauma in 2004 my enegry was transformed into this addiction of self soothing by eating as fast as I can and as much as I can. When people think of eating disorders they think of anorexia and bulimia; both very serious disorders. I am only here to say I struggle with an addiction. This is the most difficult battle of my life. I have watched my body as it dropped 25 pounds due to starvation and watched the weight come back on rapidly. Up and down...for so long. I speak to an eating disorder specialist on a weekly basis and sometimes it helps but I am at the point where I have tried to change my behavior so many times that I am left feel hopeless and frustrated; of which are two emotions I am not usually plagued by. I am a goal oriented person who is otherwise highly motivated. Maybe someone has a similar story and would like to share. To anyone suffering from any type of eating disorder...remember we are strong. We can concquer it. it is a hard road to travel, many do not understand, but it is possible. Be well
I know exactly how you feel!  Write me at mistyandmelise@hotmail.com
 
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November 4, 2005, 12:09 am PST

Soo sorry about your son!

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Jaclyn, 

 

You are so misinformed. You need to do your research before you give professional advice.   Your alley sounds like it might be the back alley. 

 

My son Jeremy had Prader Willi. He passed away just after his 17th birthday.  He was a medically very well managed child with PWS. We did this by limiting his food intake, 1100 calories a day, as well as treating him with Growth Hormone, as prescribed by his doctor.  He was 5ft 6in and 135 when he died.  If we had not properly managed his eating and behavior I am sure he would have been well over two hundred pounds and had many more medical problems than just PWS.  He died when his stomach ruptured after sneaking food and the complications that followed.    

 

There any many good doctors that specialize in Prader Willi, Dr. Dan Driscoll at the Univeristy of Florida Shands Hospital is probally the foremost Genetic expert in the US.   

 

I suggest that people go to the National Prader WIlli Syndrome web site www.pwsusa.org  to get the facts rather than rely on the postings of some on this message board that my or may not be as qualified as they suggest. 

 

Pete 

 Hi Pete:

I just wanted to say that I am soo sorry to hear about your son, he sounds like he was very Blessed to have you as his parent.  Thank you for sharing, it is important for all dangers of the syndrome to be known.

God Bless You and your family!

Sincerely,

Joyce
 
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November 4, 2005, 12:18 am PST

yeah

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  I watched the show today and agree - you can call it whatever you want but the abuse the mother has put this child through is horrible - mom's behavior in this case is ABUSE 

I agree, this case is DEFINITELY abuse!! The mother needs couselling.
 
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November 4, 2005, 12:28 am PST

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I am the mother of a child with special needs. When my son, who is now 10 was diagnosed when he was three with autism, I thought my world was going to fall in. It didn't. With some help, 7 yr's later, he is a smart, funny, strong loving child. He may not ever be independent but he will have every available opportunity to hopefully be. This mother can justify her behavior any way she sees fit but the bottom line is that I wouldn't treat any child the way she was treating her child. Her daughter is not capable of understanding what is happening to her. She will never be able to rationalize her behavior because in addition to being six yrs old she has a cognitive impairment that doesn't allow her to appropriately process information and she has a speech delay so she cannot express it even if she could!!  I would like to share a poem that was given to me many years ago and I hope she sees this and reads it and get's the help she needs to give her daughter what she deserves. 

 

WELCOME TO HOLLAND

by
Emily Perl Kingsley 

I am often asked to describe the experience of raising a child with a disability - to try to help people who have not shared that unique experience to understand it, to imagine how it would feel. It's like this...... 

When you're going to have a baby, it's like planning a fabulous vacation trip - to Italy. You buy a bunch of guide books and make your wonderful plans. The Coliseum. The Michelangelo David. The gondolas in Venice. You may learn some handy phrases in Italian. It's all very exciting. 

After months of eager anticipation, the day finally arrives. You pack your bags and off you go. Several hours later, the plane lands. The stewardess comes in and says, "Welcome to Holland." 

"Holland?!?" you say. "What do you mean Holland?? I signed up for Italy! I'm supposed to be in Italy. All my life I've dreamed of going to Italy." 

But there's been a change in the flight plan. They've landed in Holland and there you must stay. 

The important thing is that they haven't taken you to a horrible, disgusting, filthy place, full of pestilence, famine and disease. It's just a different place. 

So you must go out and buy new guide books. And you must learn a whole new language. And you will meet a whole new group of people you would never have met. 

It's just a different place. It's slower-paced than Italy, less flashy than Italy. But after you've been there for a while and you catch your breath, you look around.... and you begin to notice that Holland has windmills....and Holland has tulips. Holland even has Rembrandts. 

But everyone you know is busy coming and going from Italy... and they're all bragging about what a wonderful time they had there. And for the rest of your life, you will say "Yes, that's where I was supposed to go. That's what I had planned."  

And the pain of that will never, ever, ever, ever go away... because the loss of that dream is a very very significant loss. 

But... if you spend your life mourning the fact that you didn't get to Italy, you may never be free to enjoy the very special, the very lovely things ... about Holland. 

  

That poem is overused, and inappopriate to give to parents of special needs. I didn't buy a damn ticket to Holland and I want a refund.   

  

WELCOME TO BEIRUT by Susan F. Rzucidlo

(Beginner's Guide to Autism)

"I am often asked to describe the experience of raising a child with autism-to try and help people who have not shared in that unique experience to understand it, to imagine how it would feel. It's like this.."

There you are, happy in your life, one or two little ones at your feet. Life is complete and good. One of the children is a little different than the other but of course, he's like your in-laws, and you did marry into the family. It can't be all that bad. One day someone comes up from behind you and throws a black bag over your head. They start kicking you in the stomach and trying to tear your heart out. You are terrified, kicking and screaming you struggle to get away but there are too many of them, they overpower you and stuff you into a trunk of a car. Bruised and dazed, you don't know where you are. What's going to happen to you? Will you live through this? This is the day you get the diagnosis. "YOUR CHILD HAS AUTISM"!

There you are in Beirut, dropped in the middle of a war. You don't know the language and you don't know what is going on. Bombs are dropping "Life long diagnosis" and "Neurologically impaired". Bullets whiz by "refrigerator mother" " A good smack is all HE needs to straighten up". Your adrenaline races as the clock ticks away your child's chances for "recovery". You sure as heck didn't sign up for this and want out NOW! God has over estimated your abilities.

Unfortunately, there is no one to send your resignation to. You've done everything right in your life, well you tried, well, you weren't caught too often. Hey! you've never even heard of autism before. You look around and everything looks the same, but different. Your family is the same, your child is the same, but now he has a label and you have a case worker assigned to your family. She'll call you soon. You feel like a lab rat dropped into a maze.

Just as you start to get the first one figured out ( early intervention) they drop you into a larger more complex one (school). Never to be out done, there is always the medical intervention maze. That one is almost never completed.

There is always some new "miracle" drug out there. It helps some kids, will it help yours? You will find some if the greatest folks in the world are doing the same maze you are, maybe on another level but a special-ed maze just the same. Tapping into those folks is a great life line to help you get through the day. This really sucks but hey, there are still good times to be had. WARNING! You do develop and odd sense of humor. Every so often you get hit by a bullet or bomb not enough to kill you, only enough to leave a gaping wound. Your child regresses for no apparent reason, and it feels like a kick in the stomach. Some bully makes fun of your kid and your heart aches. You're excluded from activities and functions because of your child and you cry. Your other children are embarrassed to be around your disabled child and you sigh. You're insurance company refuses to provide therapies for "chronic, life long conditions" and your blood pressure goes up. Your arm aches from holding onto the phone with yet another bureaucrat or doctor or therapist who holds the power to improve or destroy the quality of your child's life with the stroke of a pen. You're exhausted because your child doesn't sleep.

And yet, hope springs eternal.

Yes there is hope. There ARE new medications. There IS research going on. There are interventions that help. Thank God for all those who fought so hard before you came along. Your child will make progress. When he speaks for the first time, maybe not until he is 8 yrs old, your heart will soar. You will know that you have experienced a miracle and you will rejoice. The smallest improvement will look like a huge leap to you. You will marvel at typical development and realize how amazing it is. You will know sorrow like few others and yet you will know joy above joy. You will meet dirty faced angels on playgrounds who are kind to your child without being told to be. There will be a few nurses and doctors who treat your child with respect and who will show you concern and love like few others. Knowing eyes will meet yours in restaurants and malls, they'll understand, they are living through similar times. For those people you will be forever grateful. Don't get me wrong. This is war and its awful. There are no discharges and when you are gone someone else will have to fight in your place.

But, there are lulls in wars, times when the bullets aren't flying and bombs aren't dropping. Flowers are seen and picked. Life long friendships are forged. You share and odd kinship with people from all walks of life. Good times are had, and because we know how bad the bad times are, the good times are even better. Life is good but your life in never normal again, but hey, what fun is normal.



 

Learn to do well Is.1:17 

 
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November 4, 2005, 1:58 am PST

What else can I do??

I was wondering if I can get any tips from you all too lose the extra weight. I have to say I am a dieter (is that a word) rather than hitting the gym everyday. I wish i could go to the gym everyday, but i just don't have the time! My diet worked for the first few months, but now my weight has stopped. I need to lose some fat from the belly, so should I just do situps?? I also want lose some of this mass from my gluteus so my thighs can get thinner, you know, the usual areas that need the weight loss. please, i need suggestions of successful diet plans~~
 
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November 4, 2005, 3:14 am PST

Thank you...thank you

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Hi,  I'm a mother of two toddlers ages 2 and 3.  Our oldest child, Noah, has Down Syndrome.  It broke my heart to watch this show.  Although I do not have experience with this particular disorder, I do have experience with disabilities in children.  My heart goes out to this very precious child.  I can only imagine the agony of having constant hunger day in and day out.  I was absolutely appauled to witness this mother's interaction with her child.  I know there are frustrations in dealing with children who have special needs but I also know there are many resources and support groups that are there to help.  I pray this mother will seek this help and support as well as show this little girl love even thru the agony of her tantrums.  My husband and I have always felt that the home is where children learn to love themselves, it's a place to build a strong self-esteem, and a time in life where they can be protected from the evil that exists out in the world.  Where does this little girl have to go?  Where will she learn to love herself?  Where will her self-esteem be positively built?   I hope that Social Services can get involved in protecting this helpless child.  We absolutely would open our doors and our hearts to this little one.  Thanks for allowing me to give my two cents.

Thank you..thank you....I totally agree with you. You said the things I forgot to say. Best of luck with Noah. My Jen is 19 and is the joy of my life. Take care. 

 
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November 4, 2005, 4:32 am PST

Overwhelmed with bulimia!

I am a 26 year old stay-at-home mom and full-time college student. I have suffered with bulimia since 1997...8 long years. I started in my senior year in high school b/c it was apparent that other girls at my school lunch table was doing something that was making them look so good. I am small framed and have always been 110 or less. I have no idea why I felt the need to be smaller. This behavior has continued throughout the past 8 years, but it has taken literally taken over me. I have attempted to stop whenever I got pregnant with my daughter, but during my pregnancy, my husband found out he has diabetes and my mother found out she had brain cancer. Purging was the only way I feel like I could deal with how terrified and devastated I was. I felt so guilty for having purging while I was pregnant, but with the weight gain and everything going on, I didn't know how to stop. Since then, I have had another baby, a son, my mom just recently lost her battle with cancer (in May), my uncle (mom's brother) committed suicide in June and I found out in Aug. that my husband had an affair. With all these events, I am totally overwhelmed. The bulimia is the only thing I have control over in my chaotic world. Alot of people don't even know I suffer with bulimia. I don't physically show the signs like the anorexic woman on the show. I totally understand how she feels though. Binging and purging is my way to cope. I recently wrote a letter to "BULIMIA" to tell it how it has ruined my life. It goes as follows: 

"Dear Bulimia, 

Why do you have such control over me? Why can't I just be normal and eat normally? I hate the feelings that come over me after I eat...I get completely overwhelmed! It's like I cannot control my own thoughts. You take over my mind, poisoning it, making me feel worthless, feel like my world will fall apart if I don't give in. Consiously and logically I know that what I am doing is so incredibly, insanely stupid!!!! How does my logical mind just shut down and you take total control. You won't give up until I give in and purge! After I purge, you give me a feeling of relief...a total release. Almost like a drug. I hate you bulimia and I wish you would stop controlling my life!!!" 

I just sat down after the show today and wrote that letter. I have hurt so much the past couple of years and I don't know how to deal with all my pain, loss of trust, and anger. It too has taken over me. I have forgotten who I used to be in this world... Who am I?  

 

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November 4, 2005, 5:39 am PST

Diagnosis and support necessary

 I have become the sole caregiver of a sister who is now 58. We knew she had problems from early childhood. We thought maybe it was due to a problem when she was born, such as lack of oxygen, or a fall she had when she was quite young, but whatever the cause we coped as a family. Now my parents are gone and the responsibility is pretty well mine. Recently a friend of mine who is a special ed teacher suggested the problem sounded like PWS. She has always been obsessed with food, like your older guest yesterday, and will lie to people as she begs food.  She has learned to pick locks, so nothing is really safe.  I have even seen food I have thrown out disappear from the garbage.  She has developed diabetes and is on inulin twice a day, so the food intake is even more crucial. The biggest problem is getting a diagnosis and definitely support, no matter what the family situation. I have been trying to find something online for a support group in Canada but have not been able to find anything. I had also asked her family doctor to refer her to someone who could test her for this, and she was working on it when she left the province. Now I am back to square one and would really appreciate knowing how other Canadians are coping with PWS and how they managed to get a diagnosis. I am in Manitoba, by the way, so if any of you Manitobans have a suggestion it would be welcome.
 
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November 4, 2005, 6:09 am PST

PWS Challenges

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

Nichelle, 

  

I watched the show yesterday keeping an open mind.  We all know commercials for programs are done to draw people in so I took them at face value.  I am a mother of a child with PWS.  She is the one of 3 joys in my life.  She had a late diagnosis of PWS and yes there was a point of denial for me also but then you realize you have to do what is best for your child and make the contacts you need for support and help.   

  

I understand how frustrating the behavior issues can be but the first thing you have to do is get stability in the house and work with the schools, doctors, dieticians etc.  Each of our kids are at different levels when dealing with behaviors.  You need to understand that alot of the behavioral outburst are impulsive and may not be able to be controlled if your daughter is not given the tools to try and control them.  My daughter had huge behavior issues starting around the age of 3.    She would drive me crazy but never once did I hit her or talk down to her.  I worked with the school to start behavior management programs.  It started with something as simple as earning stars for the day.  I provided the teacher with little trinkets from the dollar store that my daughter could earn.  Each year has gotten better.  At the age of 11, we still use a behavior chart and she is starting to self assess her behavior.  She does get some special privileges for good behavior for an extended period of time.  We also acknowledge that there will be rough periods and that changes in routine can cause rough periods.  The kids in her class were told about the PWS last year and are very understanding.  They even help her stay in line when she starts having issues. 

  

Although we still have a long way to go to completely understand PWS and why some are more affected than others, we have come along way.  There are alot of things we can do now to make sure our kids and adults are in the best health possible.  Please, Please work with the National association and your local association (if you have one) to get support.  Work with the doctors, schools, etc to get Savannah on a track to a wonderful life.  And there is nothing wrong with seeking help for yourself too.  We all have our bad days and trials.  The hardest part is going to be changing behaviors that are already in place.  Please take Dr Phil's advice and go to the garage and scream or hit a pillow when the frustration becomes to much.  I am not perfect by any means but we as parents must learn to cope with our frustrations in order to make it easier for our kids. 

  

Remember....You are not alone.  You have a whole national network of people who understand.  I will keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers. 

  

Melissa 

 

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