Topic : 08/25 Extreme Food Obsessions

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Created on : Friday, October 28, 2005, 02:17:57 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/03/05) What if you were so obsessed with eating that it almost killed you, or craving food so badly that you yelled, kicked and screamed when you couldn't get enough. Nichelle's 6-year-old daughter has Prader-Willi Syndrome and constantly wants to eat. She once threw a fit so loud, the neighbors called the police. Can Nichelle learn to control her own temper when her daughter has a tantrum? Then, Dr. Phil follows up with Kathy, an anorexic whose condition was so severe, she weighed only 68 pounds. She spent three months in treatment, but her struggle is not over yet. Can her family learn the difference between supporting her and enabling her? Talk about the show here.

 

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November 8, 2005, 2:46 pm PST

get help for both of you

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I have known Nichelle and her daughters for quite some time now. She is compassionate at times, and she is stern at times, she makes mistakes, and she is always human. 

  

She came to the show to get help. Not only for her precious daughter, (whom by the way is a great and loving child, but can damage even the strongest of patience) but for herself as well. 

  

Have you ever found yourself so frustrated at work, or by a neighbor, or debt, for example, that you felt like the world may as well just close up and swallow you whole? If not, please don't judge her. If so, show compassion. I have a child with Hydrocephalus, Rhombencephalosynapsis, Arnold Chiari malformation, and many many other issues. Let me be the first to say, IT IS HARD. I find myself breaking down at least once a month. sometimes I'm so frustrated that I'm shaking. 

  

It's hard. Only one thing is harder: Going on national television and yelling to the whole world that you need help. Sitting and listening to everyone that happened to have an opinion, and actually taking that opinion to heart. That's harder.  

  

She has showed more control, and self sacrifice than any of you here. Haven't you ever had a dark moment where you felt such rage? Have you never seen yourself in a position where your kids are simply driving you crazy? Well she told it all. It's not a thought deep inside her head, like most of you here, she, unlike most of you, could admit what she did was wrong, and she knew she needed help. Now I know most parents don't hit their children, disabled or not, but most people aren't on Dr. Phil asking for help either. And of those parents who have hit their children, very very few actually admit to it. 

  

She is a good person. She IS young, she IS ignorant of the condition, but keep in mind they just got diagnosed a couple of months ago. 

  

She has made some changes in her life, and things can only get better from here. Please help her be better. Encourage her to get better, don't point out what she already knows to be a fault. She is working very hard to bring you all an inspiring update show. She wants to share with you all the great changes she has made and will continue to make. She loves her daughter, and as hard as it is to believe, she felt that the strong words, and actions that she showed her daughter were a "tough love" approach.  

  

As for the "bad light" on PWS, Although eating is only one aspect of the syndrome, and sometimes not the most important aspect, I think that any one person who honestly believes that this one child represents every child with PWS, and this one parent represents every parent of a child with PWS, isn't competent enough to have a valid opinion. This is one story, as a matter of fact, they state that in the very beginning of the show. 

  

Thank you for taking the time to read this,  

  

Sarah  

 there is a lot of help out there for you. I work with an agency that handles mental disorders. We have people just like your daughter. They live in homes with others with the same problems. everything is structured and very well staffed with people trained to deal with this. All staff are compassionate and loving . All parents are involved as much as they want to be. Maybe you don't want your daughter living away from you but you would see her anytime you choose and also take her home for visits, or take her home to stay. its all your call.  I beg you for both of you to look into this help.

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November 9, 2005, 7:33 am PST

Good on You

 Hi Nichelle,

I've watched your story last Thursday.  I was a little disturbed by the Bathroon Footage, because I saw the fear in your Daughter's face.  I commend you for seeking help with your situation.  I know where you're comming from.  I was a Difficult Child myself.  My Family has been dealing with my Aspergers for 31 years, now.  I drove them nuts as a Child.  I had my little Fixations and Rituals.  I even had my own Little Rules.  If anybody broke one of my rules, I gave them a lecture.  I haven't completly grown out of my Condition.  I've been fixated on London for most of my life and I was going off about how I get grumpy if I can't have my Afternoon Tea, yesterday.  I was even called a Typical Londoner by a member of my Family.  I have faith that you will get all the help that you need.  It's hard to ask for help, but the effort pays off when you get it.
 

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November 9, 2005, 12:59 pm PST

Hang in there Nichelle

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THANK YOU :-) FROM THURSAYS SHOW

Thank you so much to all the people who posted messages here for me. Nice or mean I have taken the time to read everybodys opinion and take all said into consideration. I apologize that I said the kids were brats. They just act that way sometimes, I DO Love them and Ill do my best to handle the situation. I should not have been so negative in my postings...I guess I was just blown away by all the meanies who hadnt even seen the show yet. Thanks so much to the nice, positive, people who left such great messages. It IS appreciated. "you get more flies with sugar then with vinigar" (not that anyone wants flies! but you get my point! :)Thanks again to everyone.  

  

Sincerely, Nichelle  

I'm rather late on getting my message to you.  When I first saw the show I said to myself, Wow-what a witch.  By the end of the show I was feeling your pain.  I don't have kids, so I can't even begin to tell you how to parent.  I do know that you do love your little girl, and I could tell that you are very stressed, and burned out.  You are on overload!!!!!    I believe you were doing your best with the knowledge that you had-which was nil.  Now that you have been on the show, you will be gaining some good learning tools.  Just remember, take each day at a time.  Don't look back.  You did at the time what you knew best.  I am not religious, but I believe that you were given this little girl for a reason.  She is here to teach you something.  I know years down the road you will see this.  Please take care of yourself.  As the Dr. always says, you need to take care of these children's mother. 

Do something good for you.  Take a long nice bath.  Go out to lunch with a friend. 

 
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November 10, 2005, 6:20 am PST

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

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I am very sorry you feel this way, but I still hope that it can both be resolved for you two and that you do not feel such anger towards every anorexic.  While your aunt may act mean, not every anorexic does. Some are trying to change, but right now cannot.  We should not judge others. No, God does not like anorexia, or any other mental problem, but He is love.  God loves everyone.  I am glad you do not wish your aunt to be dead, but anger only hurts.  Please leave your aunt's personal relationship with God to her.  I am not saying to not talk to her or be honest with your feelings, but I really hope you do not call her selfish and let your anger show.
Please eremmeber that a terrible disease has taken over your aunt. Be angry at the disease and all that it has stolen from your family and from your aunt's life. Seperate who she is from the disorder. Try reading Life Without Ed. It's an amazing book!
 
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November 10, 2005, 4:54 pm PST

How dare you call yourself a parent!

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

You were not reaching out for help, you were reaching out for a PITY PARTY! You're whole attitude and message is all about you. Oh you POOR SINGLE MOTHER!! Let me weep for you... NOT. 

  

I happen to be the single mother to a very wonderful little boy who has a language disability. However, you wouldn't know it because of how I've raised him properly with LOVE AND PRAISE AND KINDNESS!  

  

YOU ARE THE REASON YOUR KIDS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME. They did nothing and are not born wrong. They may have unique challenges but that is what makes parenting a joy and not a burden. You obviously shouldn't have EVER reproduced. 

  

Able or Disabled, you do not have the right to EVER lay your hands on those children.  

  

YOU are a physical and verbal and mental and spiritual abusive. YOU have set those children BACK in life and not helped them in any manner. So stop your whining and blaming it all on them, it's YOUR FAULT. 

  

I will not commend you for 'reaching out' when we both know you just wanted some attention. 

  

Let's quote some points that prove what I'm saying. 

  

Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats.  

  

NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. 

  

Can I get SOME credit?!  

  

You should be in jail, and I am highly surprised you weren't picked up then and there. I have NO sympathy for you, but I have plenty of sympathy for your children. Further, Dr. Phil, I am appalled your camera crews did not stop her from mistreating her child like that.  

  

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November 12, 2005, 12:21 pm PST

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

I wish someone would have helped me, I can relate too Michelle, yes it's easy too scream and shout, and curse her....... but I can't do that, I myself have a special needs child. 3yrs ago we went through a living hell...... As she went from being a child too teen, she was out of control! each day she would wake up, yelling at me for no reason, hitting me, biting me, leaving me battered and bruised not just physically but emotionally, drained and worn out, my spirit was broken beaten down…….  I didn’t know which way too turn, I yelled and screamed at the dr’s too help me, no one seemed too know or grasp at what was going on……  Sometimes I would find myself in Michelle’s situation, yelling and screaming, back at my daughter, I never ever hit her back!!! Too this day I do not know how I did it, but I did!  It wasn’t until we went too child and adolescent psychologist that, she was finally diagnosed as having Bi-Polar, Autism, Fragile X. …… and was able too get on the right medication….. it took months and allot of  Dr’s  visits, until we finally got it right!  Then and only then was it time for me too seek help,  it took months of treatment, at a wonderful day time clinic at the local hospital.  I had too learned for myself that the screaming and yelling was NOT working!   I had too calm myself down, in order too calm her down!!!!!   Things have finally turned around for the better!   My daughter and I have gotten too know one another all over again, through spending time, doing activities together, getting her a wonderful school….. and respite care when I feel we need break!     

  

 

  

 

This is just a fraction of what went one during that time period, but the whole point is if you don’t help yourself you can not help your child! Then and only then will things begin too turn around

  

 

  

 

All the best!

  

 

  

 

  

 

 
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November 13, 2005, 3:58 pm PST

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From reading you post it sounds like you have a problem with anorexia also! I hope for the sake of your life & family that you are getting help or are thinking about getting help because this is serious! It just upsets me to see and hear about people with this disorder! I myself am on the heavier side, close to 300 lbs and I'm 5'2, which is catergorized as being "obese". Do I want to lose weight? OF COURSE, but when I see and hear about people who suffer from anorexia and/or buliemia, I say to myself & other people that I would rather stay at the weight I am right now for the rest of my life, then be anorexic & deathly thin! Being anorexic does NOT help or solve anything!!! You become so obsessed with being thin, that you become TOO THIN and end up putting your life more at risk!!! There certainly is NOTHING healthy about being anorexic & there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING good that comes from having this disorder!!! I REALLY hope you realize the damage you're doing to yourself, not only physically but also emotionally & mentally and I seriously hope you get the help you need to break out of this before its too late!!! PLEASE, PLEASE GET SOME HELP, ASAP!!! If you or anyone else wants to talk about this, feel free to email me at Lorissa140@ aol.com!

Lets modify your advice a bit and make it apply to your situation. 

  

"Being obese does NOT help or solve anything!!! You become so obsessed with being obese, that you become TOO OBESE and end up putting your life more at risk!!! There certainly is NOTHING healthy about being OBESE & there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING good that comes from having this disorder!!! I REALLY hope you realize the damage you're doing to yourself, not only physically but also emotionally & mentally and I seriously hope you get the help you need to break out of this before its too late!!! PLEASE, PLEASE GET SOME HELP, ASAP!!! " 

 

 

Your  advice is probably very heartfelt, but is mostly a search for self-justification.  There is almost zero chance that you will go from 300 lbs to anorexic.  Wanting and doing are two different things.  Since you do not try, you do not fail.  Very safe for you.  Heard about the Dr. Phil Weight Loss program? 

 

  

  

  

 
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November 13, 2005, 6:21 pm PST

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wow how this episode angered me. I am 18 years old and i hate the way i look. I dont want to be anorexic and i dont think that with my bone structure i could be, but i dont wanna be fat either. i have people that tell me im not fat and that im just fine the way i am, but wow how they are wrong. i hate going to the doctor because you have to get weighed first. That is ridiculous and i know that. and i also know that be being fat is something that i can control. but i just dont have the motivation. i dont know what my problem is. i dont have a job so that doesn't really help anything cause im not doing anything. i sit around all day.. all i have to say is im glad i dont have ppl telling me im fat and things like that, cause that would crush me.

  

As Dr. Phil would say your "internal dialog" tells you all the negative things you fear , so you don't even need a person to do that.   

  

No one likes stepping on that scale at the Doctor visit.  I have figured out that they are not out to get me.  Weight change alerts the doctor to many things and is a diagnostic tool just like taking your BP. 

  

I think you should be screened for depression.  Most weight issues are emotional in nature.  Antidepressants may help.  Depression will also affect your motivation and organizational skills. 

  

Next, GET A JOB.  It may be only part time flipping hamburgers, but you will be surprised how GREAT it feels to earn your own money.  This will also provide social interaction which it sounds like you desperately need. 

  

And EXERCISE.  I know from personal experience this helps depression.  I do not mean you have to get a gym membership, just walk around your neighborhood.  QUIT sitting around all day. 

  

Continue in school.  Flipping burgers is fine while in school, just don't make a career of it. 

  

  

 
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November 13, 2005, 6:49 pm PST

agree

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Lets modify your advice a bit and make it apply to your situation. 

  

"Being obese does NOT help or solve anything!!! You become so obsessed with being obese, that you become TOO OBESE and end up putting your life more at risk!!! There certainly is NOTHING healthy about being OBESE & there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING good that comes from having this disorder!!! I REALLY hope you realize the damage you're doing to yourself, not only physically but also emotionally & mentally and I seriously hope you get the help you need to break out of this before its too late!!! PLEASE, PLEASE GET SOME HELP, ASAP!!! " 

 

 

Your  advice is probably very heartfelt, but is mostly a search for self-justification.  There is almost zero chance that you will go from 300 lbs to anorexic.  Wanting and doing are two different things.  Since you do not try, you do not fail.  Very safe for you.  Heard about the Dr. Phil Weight Loss program? 

 

  

  

  

Yes....I agree. Anorexia is a disease and it is not a choice. Just thought I'd tell you I agree and like the way you used her quote. 

JUlie 

 
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November 14, 2005, 12:11 pm PST

Skinny=Pretty??

Hi, 

 I would like to say that there is too much pressure today on woman to be thin. 

I am a 26 year old woman who just in the last five years has become what is considered 

"plus sized", and I am really sick of having to shop for clothes that are less stylish, due 

to being heavier.  

 I never had a weight problem growing up. My sister and I grew up in a household with no 

snacks, candy, or treats. It was a result of my mom not being able to afford those things.  

We had to "invent" our own treats after school. Cheese melted on bread was our favorite.  

 In junior high and high school, my sister was overweight. She was a beautiful girl on both the 

inside and outside, but was often depressed due to her weight. She withdrew from friends and 

did poorly in school because of it.  

 After high school, my sister became a strict vegetarian. I watched her shrink and shrink, until she 

became so thin, she began passing out. She went from being a loving, sweet girl to an absolute terror in the household. She was partying and not eating, and wore baggy clothes so her bones wouldn't show. It was really scary.  

 What I felt was worse than her losing weight, though, was the fact that I began GAINING. This was 

new to me, and I hated it. I felt uglier and uglier with every new pound. I felt so selfish knowing that my sister now looked like a runway model, and I felt like an old woman!  

  Now that my sister and I are both married adults, we realize that we both have weight struggles. She still has to get on her scale everyday to weigh herself....I, on the other hand, haven't touched a scale in several years. She knows that she now has to stay strong and healthy for her daughter.  

I have to get in shape for my own reasons.  

  Has society always carried the notion that skinny equals pretty?  

 

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