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Topic : 11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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Are you living way beyond your means? Do you shop for one pair of shoes, but come home with 10 pairs? Bridgette is deep in debt and often spends $7,000 a week on luxury items. She even dropped $25,000 in one weekend! Her husband, Michael, says her shopping is an addiction that's ruining their marriage and family. Find out the one big secret that Bridgette's been keeping from him. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

 

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November 4, 2005, 7:54 pm PST

Dig Deeper for Bridgett

My impression was that she is angry at her Dad, takes it out on her husband (transfers it to her husband) and feels HORRIBLE hating him 24/7---the shopping is her way of medicating herself to feel better.  

  

SInce she may not be connecting the dots-- to understand why she feels so bad "hating 24/7" into the younger age, it may not be easy to re-empower herself. 

  

I can only imagine what will be uncovered as they follow this couple. Knowledge is power! Great show. 

  

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November 4, 2005, 7:56 pm PST

why do women hate?

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I was half watching the show and I could not believe what I was hearing.  This is the first time I've been compelled to give my view point.  Like you said, she sure doesn't look like she takes care of herself (why would her husband want to spend time with her) and all that "stuff" she buys sure isn't going to help her look any better.  She needs to use some of that money for an extreme makeover and get on with her life.  Like you said, what a waste.

Why do women do this? 

It is so silly.  Are you all so insecure that you can do nothing better than attack the way someone looks????? 

Too fat, too slim, too tall, too short, bad hair, bad makeup, ugly clothes, etc............ 

Rather than trying to learn something from this show, you just attack the way the woman looks. 

If this is what compels you to give your view point, you must be an extremely dull person. 

Sounds to me like you need to get out more often. 

  

  

 
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November 4, 2005, 8:05 pm PST

Great Dr.

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You summed it up so well. I would never go to a doctor who is overworked and it is SAD that he is an ER doctor.  

  

Somehow, I got the feeling that Dr Phil today acted very politically correct in his conversation. Either that or they just edited out the moments where he really laid it into the family. The wife/mother showed no remorse for what she is doing. It is as if she just can't wait to get off the show and go back to her habits. She is selfish with everything...'my children', 'my credit cards' my this my that' What on earth is she an alien from another world!!! Does she think at all!!!  

  

What is it about those selfish children can someone paint them a picture of what happens in the real world!!! Go to school, finish something you have started that will benefit you in the longterm. No one can take an education from you. You are young beautiful children don't throw it away. 

  

I could not CARELESS what has happened in the past NOTHING is worth sacrificing your soul, your husband, your children and your lifetime to pay for it.  

  

Get it together, find some peace in your life and just try to live. 

  

I don't know and unfortunately families like this pervades our society and and they do not add one iota of anything to the betterment of human kind....then again the one person who is trying to do his best at saving lives is being leeched on. WHAT AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION FOR ALL INVOLVED. 

  

BUT THERE IS HELP IF YOU REALLY WANT IT. 

He is an ER doc and a very good, caring one. He does his job well, overworked or not.  I would trust him totally and actually I have.  

But yes, he is way too caring to put up with her **it. She needs to get a job and make those kids be responsible.  

 
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November 4, 2005, 8:06 pm PST

I know what you mean!

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Dr. Phil finally came through for me today in an "aha" moment that resonates in my spirit.  This couple is so badly damaged, like me & my spouse that our "psychological skins are burned and just brushing up against each other is painful" WOW!! After the rage, we do nothing to resolve or confront or connect!  This statement was more powerful than the whole shopping thing...which by the way, I love to do, but not destructively.  But I do get the "fill the void"  piece.  I also finally realized we can't come to conflict resolution as a couple, but must first ungo indivual counseling as per Dr. Phil.  I am not normally one of his avid supporters, but today, Dr.. Phil, you touched me at my core! 

 
I just had to post and say that this really hit me hard too.  I know where you're coming from (no, we don't have shopping issues here) ~ it was like a sock to the gut ~ aha!  My husband felt it too, he paused the show to remark on it, "That's us!".  Now if that isn't promising..

A sunburn analogy.  Who woulda thought?

Mandy
 
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November 4, 2005, 8:10 pm PST

11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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Having money can be confusing, especially if you didn't grow up with it.  Both my husband and I were very unused to handling money or having fiscal freedom before we started practicing (we are a lawyer/psychiatrist couple). I was from a large working class family and he lost his dad when he was 2. Both of us grew up poor. 

  

In the beginning, we spent more than we could afford and dug a debt-hole for ourselves.  The result was that we had to delay our plans to move to a smaller city, buy a house and start our family until we paid ourselves out of debt.  When I was ready and wanting to start our life and family and I couldn't, it felt like a prison sentence. I cursed the vacations and fancy evenings out that chained us up but it was a good lesson and I am grateful that we woke up when it was still a manageable problem. 

  

Now, we have a financial plan that includes being able to retire and educate our children comfortably .  We figured out what we can spend in certain areas and we for plan those expenses.  I won't say that we only buy what we need because it isn't true but we did make priorities for our life and made some decisions about how we use our income.  We have some simple rules: 

  1. pay ourselves first. Our education and retirement contributions come before anything;
  2. we don't carry debt except a mortgage (for another 4 years:)
  3. we contribute monthly to a tax account, a vacation account, a large purchase account (for vehicles, appliances, tires) and a home repair account.  We know we will have these expenses and get ready for them in advance.
  4. if we can't pay for something with real money, we don't buy it.
  5. we don't go shopping unless we need something.  Wandering around to try and find something to cause an impulse purchase isn't something we do at all.

Money can give you freedom, but debt is a jail sentence.  It really doesn't matter aa much what the total income of a family is, what really matters is what you spend.  The highest income earning family can live in a prison of poverty and debt and a well planned family can live comfortably on a meager income. 

  

 Because we have a financial plan and self control, we can choose to have freedom.  Neither of us work a full case load.  We both work weekdays only, from 9 til 3 or 4.  We both have lots of time to spend with each other and with our children.  At least once a month we stay home together on a business day and play the day away while the kids are at school.  It helps us remember why we got  married in the first place :)  We don't need to max out on earnings because we follow a financial plan and exert self control.   

  

It sounds like Micheal and Bridgette are in a much deeper hole and their wake up happened when they were much older so the remedy is likely going to hurt much worse but it won't get better with time. You both have to bite the bullet and get your financial life under your control so you can get out of the prison you have built yourselves.  Good luck! 

Great advice! Congratulations too.
 
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November 4, 2005, 8:12 pm PST

Bridgette and Children

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Contrary to what many of you have been posting, it is not the responsibility of all people who make above average incomes to give to charity, or do volunteer work, or help those less fortunate! 

Money is money.  Some people have it, some do not.  It does not make you good or bad. And, how you choose to spend your money is your own business. 

For those of you judging this woman for being to lavish, or not giving to charity, or not having a job- wake up!   There are many, many people in this world who live exactly the way she does.  Her life experience is different than yours, but that does not mean you are better than her or she is better than you.   

I do not think this couples issue is about money.  It is really about the way they treat each other, and what they both need or want out of their relationship that they are not getting. 

Like Dr Phil said, the shopping is just a symptom. 

The money issues can be easily resolved, if each of them commit to a new way of dealing with money in their household. 

Fixing that marriage is a whole other story! 

  

  

  

Amen to you Thatdog, I couldn't agree more about everyone's decision about how Bridgette and her kids should spend Michael's money.  No one's business.  And if Michael is so upset about this thing why is he consulting Dr. Phil?  Those two need more than Dr. Phil - and those kids.  Michael and his lovely wife will soon unleash them on society.  Yikes!  You're are right  - this marriage seems to have it's roots arranged by some evil cosmic queen of the damned - because it certainly isn't made in heaven - not that any are.  But these two are so miserable.  I don't see a change - I see continuity of what they know and do best and that is live their silly dysfunctional lives together while passing the behaviors along to their charming yet useless children.  They need so much help - where oh where do they begin?
 
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November 4, 2005, 8:32 pm PST

Unbelievable

During the session with Michael and Bridgette, Michael made the comment that he was known as a "shift whore" because of his constant search for overtime. I think everyone except Bridgette and maybe you knew why. The poor man works all the time just to keep his revoltingly greedy wife's bills paid. Then she had the guts to condemn him for never spending time with the family. There is nothing worse than a woman who has no control over spending, believe me I know. I was absolutely floored when you did not lay into her about the fact that maybe he could spend more time at home if she could spend less time in the stores. 

 
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November 4, 2005, 8:51 pm PST

Michael and Bridgette

I was surprized by the spending habits and why it has gone on for so long. Bridgette wants Michael at home but he needs to work all the time to pay the bills....like the $25,000 weekend shopping spree, WOW!   

 
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November 4, 2005, 8:52 pm PST

finally, someone else who gets it!

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I just had to post and say that this really hit me hard too.  I know where you're coming from (no, we don't have shopping issues here) it was like a sock to the gut aha!  My husband felt it too, he paused the show to remark on it, "That's us!".  Now if that isn't promising..

A sunburn analogy.  Who woulda thought?

Mandy
Brigette doesn't hate her husband (even though he has probably never felt her pain over the affair so early in their marriage) but is so frustrated and angry with him and unable to communicate that to him in a way that makes him understand that she is lashing out in the only way that he understands. HIS POCKET!! She couldn't care less about what she is buying and the only reason some people are so offended by it ,is the quantity and quality of her purchases! She can spend ALOT of money in foolish ways to make it very clear to him that she is just ticked off! BUT, it's not as though she decided one day to see how fast she could spend His money. It happened gradually, slowly and without forethought. At first it probably did fill the void left by his emotional and physical abandonment of his family, but then it just became a habit. How many times has Dr. Phil said that sometimes destructive behaviors start for one reason but continue for another? How important and vital and necessary did Brigette feel to Michael when he is a successful doctor and having an affair (no doubt with a collegue that is tall and blond)  THEN, to top it off, she OBVIOUSLY stayed with and supported him emotionally during his bout with drugs and bankruptcy, only to still be left to feel useless and unhappy. I was so happy to see her actually smile during the show and can't wait to see her beam when Dr Phil's involvement changes her life for the better. One way or the other. For her sake, his sake and that of the kids. GREAT SHOW
 
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November 4, 2005, 9:03 pm PST

Sicknening

It doesn't matter if your income is $10 k, $100 k, or $1 million per year, how hard you work, or how poor your relationships are, to go very much beyond purchasing necessities and mutually agreed upon extras is immoral, unethical, & irresponsible.  Spending beyond your means to pay, in many instances, is downright illegal. 

  

This isn't about a shop-a-holic, it's about a sad, abusive relationship with onesself and one's spouse. 

  

How many times must we type, if you have such hatred and disrespect for someone, to the point where your children are being abused, WHY STAY WITH THEM?  I guess as long as the same, sad excuses and rationalizations keep flowing. 

 
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