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Topic : 11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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Are you living way beyond your means? Do you shop for one pair of shoes, but come home with 10 pairs? Bridgette is deep in debt and often spends $7,000 a week on luxury items. She even dropped $25,000 in one weekend! Her husband, Michael, says her shopping is an addiction that's ruining their marriage and family. Find out the one big secret that Bridgette's been keeping from him. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

 

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November 4, 2005, 9:13 pm PST

You Go Girl!!

I am so happy for you.....that you have a husband who can afford to let you buy new things! That's great and you're so fortunate.  If you love him and he loves you, then nobody can say anything to change that....but in a "mature" manner, yes...spend it!!  But set yourself a limit, and stick with it.  I have 4 small children and my limits are very small, lol!! When you lost everything in the past, you knew how hard it was to get it back, so spend "affordably" because it's so much easier to lose it again than to get it back. Take care and God bless you and your family. P.S. If you plan on selling any of your unwanted items, let me know!! Just a suggestion. You looked fabulous on the show :)
 
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November 4, 2005, 10:12 pm PST

I apologize in advance

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I watched the show today.  I can totally relate to Bridget, I am not as bad as her though. Thank God!  But, I do understand where she is coming from.  I shop so that I do not feel my pain.  I get distracted from reality, I realize this.  I go into my comfort zone during a shop spree.  I also have been in debt, and once again I am charging on cards, that I had stopped before.  Did anyone understand why Dr. Phil thought that getting a job was not a solution?  I am told daily to get a full-time job. Because then I will not be so bored.  What do you think? I know that it is a way to escape.  I know all that. But, how do I stop? I am on meds. for depression, because I am in mourning for the lose of my younger sister, and also for not being able to have children.  I do not want to feel the pain, so for just a moment when I shop, I have gone to another place where I am unaware, painless, numb.  Any advise anyone?  Who should I talk to, what type of support or doctor? What to do? My husband has had enough with my spending money, my family are very concerned as to why I do what I do.  Really, I feel nothing, I am completely numb. 
I live with a both Crohn's disease and arthrithis.  My Crohn's showed up when I was 29 and the arthrithis showed up when I was 33.  I lost our only son at birth and was unable to have more children.  I take medicine everyday for my chronic illnesses and some days I require pain killers as well.  Do I get depressed?  You bet I do, right about this time every year, as the anniversary of our son's death is approaching.  How to I cope?  Well I am lucky that I have a great husband who puts up with me and also happens to love me to pieces.  Numbing the pain doesn't make it go away.  Everyone was dealt a hand in life and yes some of us with dealt really bad hands.  But play the hand you were dealt the best you can.  I fight through the bad days, to get to the good days.  Find something you like to do OTHER than shopping.  My husband and I like to go fishing and go to minor league hockey games.  We also enjoy cooking together.  My husband is my rock and I thank God for him on a daily basis.  Remember no one else can MAKE you happy.  You have to find some happiness and make the best of it.    If this is overly harsh, I do apologize.
 
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November 4, 2005, 11:54 pm PST

not tragic, but very sad

There's no balance in that relationship and I'm inclined to advise them to stay together just to keep their misery off anyone else,  but boy, what a sad family.  She was up-front when she said that she didn't love him when they married but her mother urged her on, saying that he was going to be a rich doctor.  With that woman I'd be abusing oxycontin too.
Dr. Phil was kind and gentle but it's clear that the woman does not like nor love her husband. After declaring her children 'moochers', did you see her smile and blow a kiss to them in the audience? Dr. Phil said that the doctor had the warmth of a spider but didn't extend the comparison to the wife; he may be dense but she's toxic.  He seems like a guy who's been trying to do the best he can with a wife who doesn't love him and sabotages him even with her own children.  My advice to him would be to try to make peace with his children somehow and flee this terrible relationship.
 Remember the old 'can this marriage be saved' feature in Good Housekeeping or Ladies Home Journal? I don't think this one can nor should be saved.  Sometimes I wish that Dr. Phil would call these things out instead of prescribing some Family First and we'll call you in the morning. 
The woman didn't have a shopping problem; she is an empty shell with so many unmet needs that she can never be filled up.
Very sad indeed.
 
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November 5, 2005, 3:15 am PST

Are you kidding?

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I am so happy for you.....that you have a husband who can afford to let you buy new things! That's great and you're so fortunate.  If you love him and he loves you, then nobody can say anything to change that....but in a "mature" manner, yes...spend it!!  But set yourself a limit, and stick with it.  I have 4 small children and my limits are very small, lol!! When you lost everything in the past, you knew how hard it was to get it back, so spend "affordably" because it's so much easier to lose it again than to get it back. Take care and God bless you and your family. P.S. If you plan on selling any of your unwanted items, let me know!! Just a suggestion. You looked fabulous on the show :)
You're joking, right? She didn't look faboulous (Desesperate would be the word) and he looked burned out! No, she is not fortunate, she and her family have big issues!
 
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November 5, 2005, 3:35 am PST

Excuses,excuses.........

Bridgette spends money so easily because she didn't put in the hours to earn it.  I believe that prior to her marriage she was not very 'switched on' to 'life in the real world' and entered into her marriage with the same attitude. 

I think that she is manipulative, she probably did feel 'guilty' when her husband received a bill, but she knew by walking out of the room his 'anger' would soon subside, relief.......... time to plan for tommorows spending spree. And every other day. 

  

She has little or no respect for her husband, but then she didn't know if she loved him when she married him?!, but it didn't stop her from spending his money on frivolous and stupid things, oh I almost forgot, she mentioned something about  a 'void', obviously she isn't aware that most people on this planet have some sort of 'void', for those who are not fortunate enough to have money waiting for them to take or steal each morning, they must work for it!, therefore that makes plenty of  different 'voids' in the world! 

  

Finally her days of 'spending how much and when I want days' have come to a bump, so the best thing to do is to come on the Dr Phil show and hopefully he will give her 'spending habit' a long clinical name and even tell her that she is not to blame..........   

  

If Bridgette respects Dr Phil  ' above all others', then why did she never take the advice he had given to other people who had 'habits' like hers on previous shows, I guess those ones she happened to miss while out shopping. 

  

Bridgette has never had to face consequences for any of her actions, blaming others for her disrespect and selfishness. 

  

Bridgette, grow up and get a job. 

  

  

 
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November 5, 2005, 6:07 am PST

Physician heal thyself

I am outraged that these two selfish people one well educated didn't not count a the top of the list of their problems that their 16 year old DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL!!!! The children were offensive more than the shopping a living result of their lousy relatioship. I suspect while he is putting in the hours he is not as good a doctor as he claims , if I quote correctly after do no harm his code of ethics is to heal himself how can he possibly proved primary critical care whel carrying around this burden . I do believe he is more able to heal and has more sincere intentions than she.
 
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November 5, 2005, 6:53 am PST

shopping intervention

  I would like to go to one of her garage sales!! 

 
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November 5, 2005, 7:14 am PST

shopping addiction

I am a conpulsive shopper who works on recovery every day. I still have moments of weakness, mostly brought on by frustration,but I have learned that I need to step back and take a moment to think about things before I give into the need to shop.I really don't know when this started for me.  I have always enjoyed going shopping with friends from the social aspect, but the addictive part started after I had gotten married and there were several  major changes in my life, I moved away, worked at a new hospital on the night shift (I am a nurse)left my family and friends so I lost my outside support group. I don't like to blame things on my husband, because that is not fair, but working nights made me more dependent upon him for socializing and I think he became somewhat resentful about my dependence upon him.Shopping by myself became a comfort measure. It was lo cal fat free and non judgemental.also qvc and on line shopping make this all the more easier to use as a quick fix.three years ago I had racked up $5000 in credit card charges and my spouse had a melt down .Since then I don't use the cards anymore. I  also brought out some major issues that we were having in our marriage that I still grapple with today. Using cash only has made it eaiser to deal with my addiction,which is what it is. The advice I can give to anyone out there who is looking for help is to start out by taking baby steps try to address the real issues bothering you not only the destructive behavior.Follow the guidelines used by AA And remember to take your recover one day at a time.
 
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November 5, 2005, 8:10 am PST

25 Years in the Making

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There's no balance in that relationship and I'm inclined to advise them to stay together just to keep their misery off anyone else,  but boy, what a sad family.  She was up-front when she said that she didn't love him when they married but her mother urged her on, saying that he was going to be a rich doctor.  With that woman I'd be abusing oxycontin too.
Dr. Phil was kind and gentle but it's clear that the woman does not like nor love her husband. After declaring her children 'moochers', did you see her smile and blow a kiss to them in the audience? Dr. Phil said that the doctor had the warmth of a spider but didn't extend the comparison to the wife; he may be dense but she's toxic.  He seems like a guy who's been trying to do the best he can with a wife who doesn't love him and sabotages him even with her own children.  My advice to him would be to try to make peace with his children somehow and flee this terrible relationship.
 Remember the old 'can this marriage be saved' feature in Good Housekeeping or Ladies Home Journal? I don't think this one can nor should be saved.  Sometimes I wish that Dr. Phil would call these things out instead of prescribing some Family First and we'll call you in the morning. 
The woman didn't have a shopping problem; she is an empty shell with so many unmet needs that she can never be filled up.
Very sad indeed.

I totally agree with your assessment.  I was growing so angry with Dr. Phil that I had to turn off the show before the end.  This marriage should have ended long ago, before they brought children into the equation.  He might love her, but I see no love from her towards him.  Dr. Phil could not even begin to scratch the surface of the problems of these two as it has been 25 years of pain and disappointment on both sides.  I don't think Bridgette likes herself very much or even knows who she is as a person.  I think that her husband suggesting that she "get a job" is not a callus response as Dr. Phil made it out to be.  I think that what others have said on this board is true: Bridgette needs to grow up.  In that, I mean that she needs a sense of self and self worth and a reason to live.  She is empty and full of anger that just festers because she focuses her attention on nothing else.  I have seen other couples where the husband cheats early on in the marriage and the wife manipulates that event to get whatever she wants from him.   

I hope the Dr. listens to Dr. Phil in that he cuts his wife off of the credit cards completely and move to only cash spending.  If she fails to buy the necessities from this cash plan and blows the cash on crap, then just hire someone to do this for you.  I am sure it would be cheaper to hire a personal assistant than to hand over a credit card to Bridgette.  I don't see any love from this woman towards her husband and I think she is married to him only for the money.  She complains that she wants him home more, but is that because she wants to enjoy time with him or because she is insecure and thinks he is not working but fooling around?  The thought that he might leave her someday must cross her mind occassionally. Just look at some of the posts where women are saying, "leave her, come to me, I'd treat you like a king."   

Dr. Phil, since she would listen to you, you should have been harsher with her.  I cannot believe that you were that nice to this manipulative person.  I'm disappointed that you missed the mark on this one. 

   

 
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November 5, 2005, 8:22 am PST

AMEN!

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This doctor could have contacted his credit card companies and told them to freeze those accounts.  If he wanted to let his wife shop a bit, he could take a card with a reasonable credit line and only let her use that card. 

  

If the wife went ahead and applied for and got her own cards, fine, let her pay the bills.  What makes this fool pay his wife's bills?  He's enabling her and is a sap.  Tell her to get off her rump and get a job.  What does she do all day besides shop?  I didn't hear her say anything about volunteering at the PTA or some other local cause like a lot of people do.  He whines that his daughter has designer cosmetics but does nothing to curtail her shopping either.  He made his bed, let him lie in it. 

  

I love how the word "bankruptcy" gets thrown around.  This is why the bankruptcy laws were changed.  This rich doctor with a mansion and pool could simply say "i don't have enough to pay for all this" and be free of those debts. What a crock of crap. 

  

Now, the poor apartment-dweller whose medical condition devastated them financially has trouble filing for bankruptcy now because of jerks like this doctor and others who abused their credit for luxuries, filed and are sitting pretty again. 

  

Yes I am bitter.  I am an educator.  My husband works in education as well.  We are devoted to our jobs, save as much as we can and have no credit card or any debt at all.  You know what else?  We'll never have a house.  We can't afford the downpayment.  We've been priced out of the area (working class) that we grew up and work in.  Watching these people, piss away money on jewelry and cars for their kids just makes me sick. 

  

That's what happened to my husband and I.  We grew up in a neat little Northern California town, but when real estate skyrocketed and our landlord decided to take advantage of the price increase and make some money selling the house we rented, we were squeezed out of the market-and not just to buy a home.  We could no longer afford to just rent a place!  On top of that, because it is a small college town with mostly retired people and students, we were unable to find employment that would allow us to afford living there.  So we moved!  We now live in the Midwest, 2000 miles away, have better jobs, and the cost of living is not only within our price range, but much cheaper than we could have ever hoped for.  We are looking at being able to buy a home in six months.  But that experience in California was valid because it really taught us to live on less and appreciate the finer things in life (you'd be amazed what kind of entertainment you can come up with for little or no money).  My husband and I now have a better and closer relationship than we did before we moved.  We spend alot more time talking (it costs nothing to have a good conversation). 

  

I am shocked by people like Bridgette and Michael who seem to be so far removed from reality, the way most people live, that if they found themselves flat broke one day they'd have no idea how to dig themselves out. 

  

I agree with you that Michael is taking a passive attitude towards his wife's spending.  How can he sit there and complain about the credit cards without calling all of them and having them stopped, NOW? 

  

Alot of the money she's spent on foolish purchases could have made a serious difference in the life of someone affected by, say, Hurricane Katrina.  $25K spent on jewelry could paid for a house in full in some areas of the country. 

  

I hope this family gets their priorities straightened out, that it's not about the presents they give to themselves and their children, but about the PRESENCE. 

  

  

 
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