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Topic : 11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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Are you living way beyond your means? Do you shop for one pair of shoes, but come home with 10 pairs? Bridgette is deep in debt and often spends $7,000 a week on luxury items. She even dropped $25,000 in one weekend! Her husband, Michael, says her shopping is an addiction that's ruining their marriage and family. Find out the one big secret that Bridgette's been keeping from him. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

 

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November 5, 2005, 8:29 am PST

11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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Amen to you Thatdog, I couldn't agree more about everyone's decision about how Bridgette and her kids should spend Michael's money.  No one's business.  And if Michael is so upset about this thing why is he consulting Dr. Phil?  Those two need more than Dr. Phil - and those kids.  Michael and his lovely wife will soon unleash them on society.  Yikes!  You're are right  - this marriage seems to have it's roots arranged by some evil cosmic queen of the damned - because it certainly isn't made in heaven - not that any are.  But these two are so miserable.  I don't see a change - I see continuity of what they know and do best and that is live their silly dysfunctional lives together while passing the behaviors along to their charming yet useless children.  They need so much help - where oh where do they begin?

Lovelywife?  I didn't see a pretty woman - I saw a robot with no personality. What I saw was a woman devoid of any emotion.  I turned the show off when I heard her say "I'm angry", but didn't hear it in her voice or demeanor. She's angry?  What right does she have to be angry? She's selfish and is making everything about her.   

  

 Bridgette has been using her husband since day 1 of the marriage - she sold herself to him and her mother the day she married someone she didn't love - just for the money - and she makes up for her lack of self-worth by shopping.  And if she wants to fix her "addiction", she should cold turkey cut up every CC she and Michael own, and when she has a "need" to shop, she should find something else to do - go for a drive away from a mall, run, hike, go feed the homeless, etc.  Have an auction to sell everything she doesn't use and give the money to a local charity that is in dire straits for finances - ie Domestic Violence shelters, one of the programs to provide utilities for less fortunate, disaster relief, etc.   

  

Michael could have put a halt to her spending if he took away her CC's, and balanced his checking account.  For him to say that providing for his family was his need for self-worth, it's beyond that.  What kind of self-worth is working to find yourself in constant debt with selfish children?   

  

I've never been a shopper because I was raised by parents who lived through the Great Depression.  I spent 15 years in retail management for large companies.  I learned a long time ago that material possessions loose their power in a matter of days - they don't fulfill a long-term need, only a short-term fix.  I never buy anything except I don't ask myself these questions: 

1) Do I need it or want it?  If I want it, why?  

2) Do I love it enough to pack it and move it? I've moved many times in my life.  If the answer is no, it stays on the self. 

3) I never buy something that I don't get rid of something. I buy 2 pair of shoes per year, and disgard the ones that are worn out.  I rarely buy clothes, my allowance is $200 per year, and I still have clothes I don't wear. 

4) Do I have a place to put this? If not, then I have to get rid of something or leave it at the store. 

  

15 years ago I left my full time job and only worked part time for 9 months.  I put myself on a $20 per week allowance, instead of $20 per day.  I quickly learned who my friends were, and was much more statisfied with the basics of life than the years of trying to live up to being at the right place at the right time with the right people. 

  

To the person who says they feel guilty walking into a store and not buying something - that's an excuse.  Why do you feel it's your responsibility to support every retailer in the world?   

  

People who fill a "void" with shopping or other habits are afraid to look at themselves.  Stop.  Take time to look at the world around you.  Find out who you are by being yourself and stop impressing others.  Explore the world by hiking, going to plays, doing charity work, gardening, reading, etc.  You'll be a much more interesting person to be around - and probably happier with yourself and your world. 

  

The best thing for this family would be divorce.  Why work on a marriage where there is no love?  That is the root of the problem, and it was evident in both Michael and Bridgett.  Neither of them love the other, but neither are willing to take the chance to step out on their own.  The kids need to be kicked to the curb.  Michael would be better off giving Bridgett half of his possessions, and half his debt, and cutting the cord that is tying them together.  Bridgett should get no alimony and should have to work to learn the value of a $, the kids are over 18 and should be given nothing - they need to learn what it takes to survive without mommy. 

  

Obviously I have no sympathy for these people. 

 

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November 5, 2005, 8:57 am PST

Overspending

Each trying to fill a void - overspending and overworking. Take time to become realistic. We all have flaws. As Dr Phil suggested - match merchandise to each receipt and return goods. While an embarrassment - it will give you a good feeling.  

Spend quality family time - those girls look like hoodlums - they need to be on a budget and in school. 

Although high income, we all have limitations and parameters in which we must exist.  

 
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November 5, 2005, 11:08 am PST

money can't buy happiness

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   When Bridgette made the statement that she didn't think that she loved Michael when they got married (her mother told her to marry him since he was a doctor and would have money), I was surprised that Dr. Phil didn't pick up on her comment and discuss it more.  Maybe Bridgette married just to please her mother and now she intends to get  what her mother promised her Michael could give her - money, money, money.  Dr. Phil  pointed out that Michael seemed numb and emotionless, well, so did Bridgette;  not much animation or emotion from her either. I got the impression that she might be sedated.  Despite all this, I am hopeful because of something I saw at the end of the show when they joined the audience - Bridgette smiled and held on to Michael.  I'm glad the girls are going to participate in all this.  They are  lovely, but they definitely need to experience life in the real world.  And, the daughter who quit school, needs to get back to her studies.  She is so bright and compassionate and could do so much more with an education to open doors for her.
   she thought" rich doctor,set for life.i'll be happy.but possessions don't equal happiness.she's had an affair,looking for love.he's numb? wouldn't you be if you realized she only married me for my money.  either way he's screwed, big alimony or enormous debt. he doesn't have a chance. sure she smiled and held on to him, she's afraid the gravey train is about to be derailed.
 

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November 5, 2005, 11:45 am PST

selfish overshopper

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That's what happened to my husband and I.  We grew up in a neat little Northern California town, but when real estate skyrocketed and our landlord decided to take advantage of the price increase and make some money selling the house we rented, we were squeezed out of the market-and not just to buy a home.  We could no longer afford to just rent a place!  On top of that, because it is a small college town with mostly retired people and students, we were unable to find employment that would allow us to afford living there.  So we moved!  We now live in the Midwest, 2000 miles away, have better jobs, and the cost of living is not only within our price range, but much cheaper than we could have ever hoped for.  We are looking at being able to buy a home in six months.  But that experience in California was valid because it really taught us to live on less and appreciate the finer things in life (you'd be amazed what kind of entertainment you can come up with for little or no money).  My husband and I now have a better and closer relationship than we did before we moved.  We spend alot more time talking (it costs nothing to have a good conversation). 

  

I am shocked by people like Bridgette and Michael who seem to be so far removed from reality, the way most people live, that if they found themselves flat broke one day they'd have no idea how to dig themselves out. 

  

I agree with you that Michael is taking a passive attitude towards his wife's spending.  How can he sit there and complain about the credit cards without calling all of them and having them stopped, NOW? 

  

Alot of the money she's spent on foolish purchases could have made a serious difference in the life of someone affected by, say, Hurricane Katrina.  $25K spent on jewelry could paid for a house in full in some areas of the country. 

  

I hope this family gets their priorities straightened out, that it's not about the presents they give to themselves and their children, but about the PRESENCE. 

  

  

I think he should divorce the ungrateful wench and file bankruptcy and start over.  This woman is the most selfish ungrateful woman i have had the distinct displeasure of watching on your show. She has no concept of how to have a loving relationship nor does she care too. She stated she never loved her husband and saw basically dollar signs by marrying a doctor.  Well he should do her a favor and divorce her if she is that unhappy being married to him and he can move on and possibly have something to show for all his long hours.  That's another thing she is complaining that he is never around to do things with her and the children as a family well maybe if she would stop spending money on ridiculous things like designer dog leashes and strollers he would not have to work like a dog. She does not deserve any of it and he needs to freeze the credit cards so she is unable to charge any more and lock up the checks and extra checks in a safe where only he has a key, and if she wants money to spend tell the wench to get a job.
 

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November 5, 2005, 12:02 pm PST

A shopper gone wild

 Dr. Phil, I think you were too easy on this woman.    When she kept saying she wanted to see more of her husband, surely she is not that ignorant that she can't see that her over spending is defeating the very think she says she wants in her life, or is this only a subterfuge?   I think you should have made her admit the fact that she really didn't want him home more or her actions would have changed already.    Lory Ellerbrock Phx, Az.
 

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November 5, 2005, 1:05 pm PST

11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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I live with a both Crohn's disease and arthrithis.  My Crohn's showed up when I was 29 and the arthrithis showed up when I was 33.  I lost our only son at birth and was unable to have more children.  I take medicine everyday for my chronic illnesses and some days I require pain killers as well.  Do I get depressed?  You bet I do, right about this time every year, as the anniversary of our son's death is approaching.  How to I cope?  Well I am lucky that I have a great husband who puts up with me and also happens to love me to pieces.  Numbing the pain doesn't make it go away.  Everyone was dealt a hand in life and yes some of us with dealt really bad hands.  But play the hand you were dealt the best you can.  I fight through the bad days, to get to the good days.  Find something you like to do OTHER than shopping.  My husband and I like to go fishing and go to minor league hockey games.  We also enjoy cooking together.  My husband is my rock and I thank God for him on a daily basis.  Remember no one else can MAKE you happy.  You have to find some happiness and make the best of it.    If this is overly harsh, I do apologize.

I have crohn's and arthritis too.  I think they are often partners in crime and the meds we have to take are miserable, aren't they?  When I feel low, I find that brisk walking help me alot.  I often don't have the energy for an extended walk but even 20 minutes in the woods with some good tunes on my ear phones can really brighten my mood. 

  

I am so sorry about your baby. I can't imagine living with that pain in addition to everything else that comes with our chronic illnesses. I hope you find peace. 

 
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November 5, 2005, 1:29 pm PST

I too always agree with Dr. Phil

Quote From: judyblue22

Although Bridgette having a job is certainly not the panacea to the issues that Micheal and Bridgitte have, but it is an essential step to start her on the road to growing up! There is a definate parent/child relationship there and she is rebelling in spades.  She needs to move forward into being an adult. 

  

I also believe that if she earned some of the money needed to pay back what she has stolen from her family, she might gain some self esteem. 

  

  

Dr. Phil just said the answer of her getting a job was wrong because he knows that wouldn't fix her problem.  Her main problem is that hef husband isn't home with her and she want him home (which of course he can't do because he has to pay her bills).  There's more to her spending.  Like people drink or do drugs to forget things that hurt or bother them, she shops because it makes her happy at the time.  Later she regrets it but she's so far in the hole with this, she doesn't know where to go.  Believe me, I'm not sticking up for this woman at all, but I understand what Dr. Phil was saying.  I know he would think it would be good for her to get a job, but he didn't say that because he knows that there's more to it than that.  Biggest thing is they need to communicate.  The only way it sounds like they communicate at this point is when he argues with her over what she bought.  She is getting his attention at that moment.  It's not positive attention, but he makes the time at that moment to argue with her.  He's not too tired to fight about it, he makes the time then.  She just needs to get his attention in a different way.  

  

Personally, I don't think they look like they love eachother at all, but we don't really know because we're not there 24/7.  If she could do what Dr. Phil says and return all of that crap, it would help them tremendously... then learn to make time for each other, but not fighting.  Find time to watch tv together or cook a meal together.  That's a small beginning that could make such a difference with them.  It has to start somewhere....  

 
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November 5, 2005, 1:32 pm PST

oh, my, God!

I just saw myself and my exhusband!  Our dynamics had a few different twists, such as less money, but the basics were the same.  He was a functioning alcoholic, meaning he could hold down a job, but could not meet the obligations of the rest of his life, including me.  I spent.  Not to the extent that that woman did, but I do have some clothes I have never worn, and lots of stuff off e-Bay.  Now, I know why I did.  So simple.  He was a penny pinching , resentful, bitter man and never spent a dime on me.  In our 35 year marriage, we have had fewer than five dinners in really nice restaurants, he bought me a total of three pieces of jewelry (and made sure I never forgot it) and we went on a total of three nice trips. Yet, he always had CASH for a bass boat, cabinets of power tools, a four-wheeler, lots of hunting rifles, camping equipment, etc.  He even kept a separate private account that he saved and dipped into for his personal spending.  (I was not allowed a separate account, although I, too, worked).  He worked late hours, often coming home at 10' or 11:00 because (he said he had to work extra to support us.  He never had a minute for me, and resented any free time I took up when he really wanted to be drinking and fishing, or hunting.  In the last few years, I started spending more (I see now) because my life was running out, and if he would not buy for me, I would buy for myself.  I bought some jewelry (that I do enjoy and wear),  some oriental carpets for the house, an antique bed, lots of cd's, clothes, etc.  He would go into rages, and finally after I became disabled from a cancer operation and could no longer work, his fix was to deprive me of ALL money, so I had to ask for specific things.  And since I didn't work, it became HIS money.  Still I fought for my spending.  I dodn't think seeing this program earlier would have helped, because he always resisted professional help, but at least I now understand the basic dynamic.   

 
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November 5, 2005, 2:40 pm PST

Bridget, what is wrong with you???

 I watched the show this past Friday and I have to say I was so disgusted with Bridget and her kids.   Talk about spoiled brats.    OMG...   She needs help and I do not feel sorry for her one bit.   So many people  are living paycheck to paycheck , she ought to be ashamed of herself.      

              

 
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November 5, 2005, 3:39 pm PST

Mad and wants to shop

  Her husband must not really care if she spends all that money, because her would of taken away all her credit cards a long time ago. If she wants to spend all that money send her my way. My husband and I both lost our jobs and now my house is falling apart. The ground is settling on one side and the house is going that way. I would put her money to good use real fast. And not on a lot of junk for the darn dog or things I would never use anyway. She could of put that money to real good use, and her kids need to be in school. She has really taught them how to spend money all the wrong way.
 
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