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Topic : 11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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Are you living way beyond your means? Do you shop for one pair of shoes, but come home with 10 pairs? Bridgette is deep in debt and often spends $7,000 a week on luxury items. She even dropped $25,000 in one weekend! Her husband, Michael, says her shopping is an addiction that's ruining their marriage and family. Find out the one big secret that Bridgette's been keeping from him. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

 

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November 5, 2005, 9:00 pm PST

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 That there are men out there that actually would tolerate their spouse spending sooo much money. This woman really has a major problem and it is not  about spending money or going on shopping sprees.  There is a more serious problem here and she needs to look deeper then what's on the surface.  All I can say is her husband must really love her  to keep going on with this putting all the responsibility on him.  I understand he is a Dr. but this is extreme and really taking advantage of the situation and her husband..
I have supported myself and my son for the past 15 years of my marriage.  All necessities, cloths, food, gas, etc.  But now I am not working and have no money left  I get abused for spending any of the money in our joint checking account.   Even for the very minute thing.  I was called a freeloader for asking him to buy my son and I a drink at an amusement park.  If  I write a check out  even  $20.00 I am told I am stealing his money. and he is going to take my name off the account.  All of the credit cards are in his name only and I have no access to any of them.
If Michael wanted to  he could set limits as far as maybe getting her her own credit card with a reasonable credit limits.  This could be a start with the money spending situation, but his wife has a deeper issue and reason for doing this.  It defiantly sound like she is trying to get even with him for something.  She should be kissing his feet and getting the help she needs. Knowing she has a man that  is putting his concerns on the back burner and her problem in the front and center.
I am astonished!  You should not be treated this way!! Get help and right away!
 
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November 5, 2005, 9:07 pm PST

I disagree with Dr. Phil for the first time ever!!!

 I understand on this show he was focusing on the relationship underlying issues.  However, I DO NOT agree that he said she should not work!!!  Are you kidding me?  I absolutely think this woman has no idea at the value of money.  Perhaps I can go half way with Dr. Phil in saying that resentment is a basis for their issues but she needs to work......for free.  With her spare time, she needs to volunteer at a homeless shelter or at a food bank or something.  That should be the only bank she should have access to for the time being.  I don't buy the story of her wanting him home with her more so she spends.  I just don't buy it.  I absolutely saw no remorse on the show from her.  And her kids!!!  I wonder how they became moochers mama, take a look in the mirror.  This show aggrevated me so bad I wanted to scream.  This poor man needs some emotional and physical help himself.  I am anxious to see if Dr. Phil actually has her take the merchandise back she doesn't wear or need.  That would be awesome so the Dr. can actually stay at home.  Dr. Phil I love you, and you are a personal hero of mine, but let's think about this one again.  I am hoping I am off on this during a future taping.  I hope for sucess for this family.  If it works, you are once again the diamond in the rough!!!!
 
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November 5, 2005, 9:22 pm PST

she's not an addict

She is not an addict.  She has total control over what she's doing.  Especially when she curses at him.  She's doing it out of anger and hatred for him.  It doesn't even matter what he did to make her hate him so much, there is NO excuse for her cursing at him like that.  Only someone full of hate would say "because I HAVE to live with YOU....you MF".  Who says stuff like that???   Take the hint Michael, she doesn't love you.   

  

And calling your children "moochers".  They had a good teacher.  Bridgette is the BIGGEST moocher.  She wants her kids to get a job?  They have to learn by example...get a job yourself! 

  

Kick her to the curb.   

 
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November 5, 2005, 9:25 pm PST

11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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  I would like to go to one of her garage sales!! 

ME TOO!
 
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November 5, 2005, 9:43 pm PST

11/04 A Shopping Intervention

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I too am married to a physician. We've been married two years and have recently separated. We have one child; a baby girl. Like Bridgette, I never worked and had great expectations of my husband. I never bothered placing any on me. I don't think I loved my husband when I married him. I do now, but, ...it is too late. Or is it? I wanted to marry success. Stay home, raise the family --picture perfect. Not so. Like Bridgette I shopped and shopped. The more I spent the worse the relationship. Now, in the end, he resents me, feels used and abused and I can't blame him. I blame me. If only ...he had shown me more affection. If only he was home more. If only he wasn't so clinical and cold. If only he could love me now like he once did.  

I didn't realize how well I had it. How good he was to me. I took advantage. I took and took. There comes a time when you must give back, expecting and wanting nothing in return. I'd love to hear if this is a common theme amongst 'doctor's wives (or husbands)' and where do we go from here? 

I'm proud of you for taking responsibility for your part.  Does he know you feel you took advantage of him?  I'm sure he would appreciate knowing that you own up to it.  Men need to feel respected and appreciated and they need to hear it.  Maybe if you start there, then there might still be some hope for you two.  Take advantage of being able to tell him how much you care.  I lost my husband to stomach cancer Feb 05.  He was 45.  I'm 36.  Don't take for granted those opportunites to tell them you love them.  My chances are all gone.  You still have your chances.  Don't waste it.  Good luck to you! 

  

shyra 

 
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November 6, 2005, 7:01 am PST

Not as it seems on the surface

 There is lots more to the "history" of both of these people than we have been shown.  I agree that NEITHER this woman or her husband are coping well with the rejection or the hurt or punishments they are inflicting on each other, him using workalcoholism and affairs or her using shop alcoholism or affairs. or the counterproductive "acting out" the other is manifesting. However, I would suspect that the husbands workalcoholism  and cheating came way before the shopalcoholism or her cheating. He has as just as many or more  emotional maturity problems as his wife his just seem more "justified or legitimate" in our "make money" oriented society. He knows she will be judged more harshly for her "coping" behaviors than he, and he strikes me as a perpetrator vying for the victim status. Check out his "victimhood" stance and smiles and smirks and "poor me" stance.  He makes light of his problems with workalcholism and his affairs. Her over the top behavior is a very non serving way of  screaming for his attention, which he apparently ignored till he began to feel the pain rather than inflicting it on her. I can just see her saying through her shopping, "you prefer work to the exclusion of your wife and kids, lets see how much work you can bear". Sad, cruel, and counterproductive, yet he obviously condoned this and they became two monster feeding the monster in each other. I really think Dr. Phil was right on target with his "diagnosis" of them both. They are caught in a self-relationship defeating whirlwind or their own making and both share equal blame in the problem and the solution. She seems, by  surface appearance only to be a real selfish money grubbing bimbo. Both have their 'holisms out of control.  As an ER doctor he is taking HUGE chances with peoples lives and his own to volunteer to put in such hours, but look at the self punishment he would prefer to endure  in order to avoid his family obligations. This took years to get to the point it is. He is using his work to avoid a relationship with his  wife and family and doing his best to make it appear HER fault with him the victim, and I would bet in the beginning he really got off on his work and mistress, to the exclusion of his family.  I suspect he is incapable of thinking past his own self serving attitudes. Rejection is the most painful of all emotions to try and deal with. His wife didn't handle his cruel rejections too well, obviously. He is only complaining now, cause now he is having to live the consequences of his rejecting his family and has major  overloaded. I suspect as long as he was more than willing to hide out at work, rather than be a husband and father, he never complained about the spending. Now he is "tired" and wants it to stop and he has set her up to appear the perpetrator of all their problems. She bit the bait, as he knew she would most likely with his urging in the beginning or his "whatever" attitudes toward her and his daughters,  and she obliged and gave him all the justification he needed. She strikes me as lost and bewildered, like most addicts are.  If we were to take this ball of yarn mess and unravel it to the beginning, my guess  is that he set her up to have this problem to justify his own workalcoholism and lack of any real emotion or commitment to anything but himself. They are clearly co enabling the WORST parts of each other and those "worst parts" are destroying them both.  His "silence and affairs and absences" and "poor me" attitudes are just as gross to me as is her out of control spending. He is using work to hurt and reject and so she is using  spending the money to attempt to "talk" to him regarding what she is feeling. Both are equally guilty of self and relationship and family destroying activities. I lay my money on HIS  ego/rejecting/ emotional zero problems coming first, and hers being a very unhealthy reactive stance to this slap to her ego and love for him. I am very interested if Dr. Phil addresses his passive aggression and self serving need to be a victim of his own making. He is a clearly  manipulative man, saying all the right words while feeling superior to her weaknesses. Been there done that. I hope they can work it out, and stop the out of control hurting of themselves and each other.
 
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November 6, 2005, 7:30 am PST

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OMG!!! I was horrified on Saturday when I watched your show that aired on Friday, November 4th. I Tivo'd so I wouldn't miss it. I'm so glad I got to see it. First let me start by saying I could not believe this lady. How could she be so selfish and selfless? Here she's got a good providing husband, who apparently loves her because if he didn't he wouldn't put up with her. And she takes total advantage of him. Now there are two sides to a story, one never knows what really happens behind closed doors. However, Bridgett ... come one. Do you realize how many women out there wish they had your husband. How many women have losers and would sell their soul for your GEM. Girl you better get with the program. What ever resentment you have towards him for what ever reason, Deal with it, Fix it and Get over it. You never know what tomorrow will bring. And at the rate your going, your husband will eventually get tired and Run the other way. Yeah, your probably thinking well he'll never leave... Don't be so sure. I don't think you really love him. I think you just married him because of his money (so said by you, " My mom said he's a rich Doctor." If you really loved him, you wouldn't do the things you do to hurt him. Do something nice for him! It doesn't even have to involve spending money. That sure would be a treat. Stop doing what your doing it's only going to back fire on you at some point.   As for Michael, Sweetie, what is wrong with you. Do you lack self esteem. Do you think you can't do better or do u like being treated that way. She dogged you on national TV. That's not love honey. I think you are a TOTAL HOTTIE especially in those scrubs. MMMMMM. What hospital do you work in I feel sick, need ER care now. Look, life gets better. So what if you lost everything before. The whole for better or for worse, was that left out of your marriage vows? Couples go through a lot of stuff before the tuff gets going. Don't blame your self or feel you need to over make up for the lost. Things happen in life that can't be changed (meaning your addiction) but the good thing is that you've come along way and should be proud you've accomplished what you have. To bad you chose the wrong person to go through that with. (sorry to say your mom was right) So stop over working, get rid of all that excess baggage your carrying around and make life better. Hey, if things don't work out with your wife, oh well there are plenty of other women out there that will appreciate you. Take care and be strong   Jorja
 
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November 6, 2005, 7:34 am PST

How it gets started

How is gets started 

  Lets be real, most women look for certain qualities in a mate and a physical or emotional attraction is only one  or two of the things we consider. We also want a mate that is successfully employed or at the least able to support us and a family. I suspect all three factors were evident in Bridgete's choice of Micheal. I suspect she spent many long hours on the home front while he finished med school and his internship. He chose to have an affair to reward her support and she reacted in an "over the top" fashion suited to his "crimes".  

    The trouble with being married to a workalcoholic is that someone must maintain the homefront, doing all theemotional and physical  work, while the other is focusing on the work and nothing else. That is where the term  workalcoholism comes from ....work is the only thing that matters. 

   This is a very common problem in marriage. This couple may have been picked cause they are the extreme example of how things can get out of control, when MONEY is the focus of a marriage. In this case he is focused only on making it and she only on spending it. Everything else gradually has faded into the background or is non existant.  

  This couple is so "trapped" by money oriented thinking, and are commmunicating ONLY through the money that there are no victims or perpetrators, unless you want to name money issues. Being the one, the only one, holding down the homefront and the long lonely hours and the stress is like being a single parent. If the only "perk" to being married is the ability to spend money  far too often desperate women, in an attempt to cope and fill the lonely, rejected, stressfilled hours will often turn to shopping.  It is a safe alternative to other counterproductive activities available to a woman wanting to honor her marriage vows.  

    Show me a woman that shops too much and I will show you a man that works or is away from home too much. Men drink and have affairs and a large number of  other wise intelligent and capable women shop. The stores are to capacity on weekends with lonely women, trying to find the "magic key" to get and keep their husbands attention.  

     This goes to the core of our primal instinces as men (goal chasers) and women (hunters/gathers) in addition to societies current  attitudes towards worship of the almighty dollar.  The more you make, the more you spend. This couple is an over the top example of how this kind of thinking can get totally out of control. Both are guilty of excess, and both have interpersonal issues at the core of the problem and how  and why it has gotten totally out of hand. 

   This couple is not as unique, as it seems due to the large amounts earned and spent. Lower the amounts and Bridgette and Micheal   have lots of company. Far too many men egotistically put work ahead of everything and use making money to justify the grossest sins on their families  who are trying to survive emotionally without Dad.  

  He is as guilty as she for the excesses/indiscreations  that are destroying this family. Lay off her for falling into the obvious trap his attitudes set. I suspect he worshipped money, made it the god in their family and she and her children are now guilty of following his "religion".  

   I believe that the man is entrusted with the leadership in the family as God would dictate, but this man chose to make MONEY his God, and they are all paying the price for this immature, poor judgement on the part of THEIR leader.  

 
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November 6, 2005, 9:44 am PST

Unbelievable !!!!!!!!!

I couldn't believe what I was seeing and hearing. This woman is nuts.  Especially when I saw that kitchen and she doesn't even cook. I would give anything for a kitchen like that, but I will probably never see one in this lifetime. Lady, you have to lighten up on your hubby. He's busting his butt working for you and those kids and no one appreciates it. What are you going to do if he dies?  Maybe you need to live the poor life for a while. You should be ashamed of yourself. Straighten those kids out too, while you still can otherwise they will have crappy marriages too. 

 
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November 6, 2005, 10:38 am PST

The ONLY addict is the husband

He is addicted to the glamor of his job. And the ego gratification he gets from being seen as a "hero" every minute of the day in the ER. Doctors are very flawed people. I feel for his wife. If I were you, Brigitte, I would get the heck out of the marriage. Take all your stuff with you. Your husband does not want to be with you. He is playing GOD with you as he does at work. You bore him. 

  

Your poor kids. You are all bearing the scars of his addiction and his guilt. How he can blame you floors me.  

 
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