Quote From: wildwoodmost women look for certain qualities in a mate and a physical or emotional attraction is only one or two of the things we consider.We also want a mate that is successfully employed or at the least able to support us and a family.
**cough** speak for yourself! I can chase goals and I am not an anomaly. I and many other women are capable of supporting ourselves just fine. I chose my husband because I loved him and he shared my values and principles.
Apparently I am confused, I assummed by your use of the termology "supporting ourselves" you were referring to your or any womens ability to make MONEY and somehow suggesting I wasn't aware that such is possible in this day and age. I really am getting curious about the defensive tone of your posts. I really did not intend to insult anyone or put down women that make "other choices'. Please lets not make this about working women vs non working, nor about religious theology.
This couple is having problems that really have nothing to do with money or who makes it , what they do with it or or why, unless you want to consider their current mode of faulty thinking that money is an equalizer in marriage. Intelligent people can reason that one out. I do however, see that Micheal, in my opinion, is HIDING his "sins" on his marriage and family behind his ability to earn lots of money, as if that exempts him from his other responsibilities and he has this "faulty thinking in common with lots of men. And his wife, is as guilty as he, or is following his lead and hiding her sins on the marriage, with her now totally irresponsible use of this SAME money to "talk" to Micheal, and she has lots of female company with falling into that "trap" and that neither one wants to admit that " behind the money tree "is where they are both hiding their irresponsibility and sins on the marriage and family unit.
Clearly Micheal and Bridgette DO NOT at this point share the same values and principals, or if they do it has gotten lost in the pursuit of, power of and in the spending of MONEY.
I am stating my opinions about my personal beliefs and interpretation of the bibilical plan for marriage. I assume that is what message boards are there for.
The passage in the bible that spells out what I consider a "workable" plan for the marriage partnership has been debated for centuries, and each generation has put their spin on it according to the "times". I do personally think, that the "wives submit to husbands" part has been taken out of its context, much to the determent of ALL women, in a way that leaves it open to much negative debate. I am still not totally at ease with the sins that has led many men and women who do not read any futher than that one sentenence to perpetrate on women kind.
You simply cannot focus on that part, and "get it". Unfortunatly individuals, and many churches and their teachings have done just that, and caused many "abused" women to suffer even more, while men get totally off the hook as to what they were "commanded" by God to do to EARN the submission of their wives. It simply DOES NOT say that women must submit irregardless of the false, ungodlike or fautly leadership on the part of their husbands.
If a woman is being treated according to the principals laid out in this passage, she would WANT to submit to the GODLY leadership of her husband. This plan for "teamwork" would be good marriage advice, irregardless of anyone's religion. To each his own however and I totally respect that many women, including myself, chose to see this as laying out a plan of a partnership of equality, cooperation and loving spirits ie "two people acting as one". Far too often, MONEY, enters the picture and all that "cooperation, mutuality, and equality is cast aside. Perhaps that is where the "money is the root of all evil" quotes come into being.
This biblical passage, if interpeted correctly, DEMANDS cooperation and respect, mutual equality as as "one" or as one would like or needs to be treated and it encourages loving treatment of each other. Far too many do not read, study, or understand the ENTIRE passage. This is where the problems come from. I have gotten that a man leads his wife in a loving, respectful, equal, and fair way, as God should his people. His leadership, is contingent on his compliance with GODS way, and his deciding "vote" only in the extremly rare cases (if the plan is followed) where he and his wife cannot achieve mutuality, as a "tie breaker". Too many people do not see this is subject to his leadership as HE is instructed by God. This does not give him power over the women but power WITH the woman.
Whether you know it or not, I would suspect you and your husband are following the principals laid out, correctly, and that is why you make such a good "team". Lucky you! Many couples are not, and therefore problems develop where resistance of "power over", and superiority of take precedence over TEAMWORK and JOINT mutual, and considerate problem solving.
I want to add to my post that much of this is my personal speculation, as to the problems, cause, and so on. None of us KNOW what lurks in the hearts of this couple, in reality, once you get past the symptoms. I only hope they can work it out, and get back on the "same page" of loving respect and mutuality that so many of us have a hard time finding.
I agree with your post(s).
What really annoys me is the fact that some people don't seem to realise that everyone has a right to their own opinnion, this is a public debate, open to all regardless of gender, age or profession.
It is highly unfair that if someone does not agree with a post that they allow themselves to 'attack' the author and not the actual concept or idea that is at hand.
As I have previously stated I agree with what you have said, and if your posts are read properly, it can be seen that there is nothing 'offensive' in them at all
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