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Topic : 08/18 Dr. Phil's Road Show: Newlywed Challenge, Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/08/05) Dr. Phil's Road Show continues as he puts newlyweds to the test! Three barely married couples on the verge of divorce go through a series of stressful challenges so Dr. Phil can see how they really communicate and work together. How will the women do when changing a tire under the direction of their husbands? Plus, what happens when the couples have to learn the Tango in only 30 minutes and then perform for a celebrity judge? Dr. Phil tells them exactly what they need to do if they don't want to end up another divorce statistic. Plus, big prizes for the Road Show winners.  Join the discussion.

 

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August 12, 2006, 3:34 pm PDT

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Hello again as far as abuseive spouses. They are NOT worth it. You deserve to be treated like a queen or king depending on your situation. You have to like yourself first. I have been in one of those and having your head pounded into the floor is no way to live. There is help out there take it.
 

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August 14, 2006, 11:08 am PDT

Doh't waste any more of YOUR time

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Honey it's plain to see from the outside he is cheating on you. the reason  could be any; not enough spark, hates himself , bored, your "different", his family history,(maybe his parents did this),or he could just be a creep. But he is just shuting down too fast. To me it seams he has found or has a definite possibility of another realationship. In my past i have dealt with this several times. I could talk to you about it e-mail me @ romanangel77@yahoo.com. we can talk.But bottom line if he's not ready to stop the crash the train WILL derail no matter what you do. He needs to be apart of fixing it.

Call several local lawyers.  Ask their cost for a divorce with a child in your county.  You need to move on, get child support, and get maintenance (alimony) until you are able to be re-trained for your new position.  YOu all ready have training as a childcare worker (you have a small child right?);  child development teacher; accounting professional (you did the checkbook and family budget, right?); housekeeper; sex therapist (you worked with a lost cause, right?)....  Anyway; there are lawyers to fit every budget, and some that will make HIM pay all legal fees since you weren't working when he decided to desert you and the baby.......... make him pay.

 

Take your advise from someone who is NOT emotionally involved, too!!!

 
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August 16, 2006, 8:53 am PDT

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Hi,

 

I too have been in an abusive relationship. Briefly, I have been with my husband for 12 years and married 9 of those years. We have a 9 year old son and an almost 6 year old daughter. He and I have pretty much had arguments 11 out of 12 years. In the last 3 years things got worse and drinking started to increase. I believe he has Anger, Power and Control issues. This is a learned behavior and it all started when he was a child (hence our children will follow steps too). I also was raised with a lot of anger and abuse and also have similar issues. He started by calling me all of those horrible names and constantly blaming me for issues that I didn't feel were my fault etc. I allowed him to continue this behavior and became a "volunteer" for the abuse after that. I became resentful and angry and would also say things to hurt him when I was angry because I was getting him back in a sense. 6 months ago we were so bad that I left him and moved in with a girlfriend with just my daughter and let him have my son. (My son started treating me and our daughter just like my husband treated me) I came back after 2 months and things were okay for a week and then the blaming and name calling started again and he went as far as to call me a FAT ASS. I am 5'9" and weigh 150 lbs. I am far from being a  fat ass. I was enraged mentally over this and went into a horrible depression. I didn't do anything around the house and ignored everyone. I am just now coming out of it with a lot of help. I joined the DAWN (Domestic Abuse for Women Network) and have been getting help for myself and kids. He is still acting the way he used to but worse. He was drinking really heavy one night and called and started threatening me that he was going to take my kids from me and get me into trouble with lies to the police about abuse that never happened etc. The threats got so bad I took my kids on July 10th and escaped the home and went to a safe house. My girlfriend took us in and took caution to make sure that he didn't know where she lived and I got a Domestic Violence Protection order. Since this incident on 7/17 he stopped drinking and I officially moved out and got my own apartment. I am not divorcing him just yet but am very clear about my thinking. He is a sick person with anger and alcoholism and he doesn't know how to fix it. He loves me dearly but only knows how to vent on me and not deal with his own issues.

I have gotten help through a 12 step program in Alcoholics Anonymous and am learning how to live a life on mine and gods terms that is healthy and honest. I know now that it isn't my job to fix him and I cannot do anything about his decisions nor can I ALLOW him to do anything abusive verbally or physically to me. I have the power to stop all of the fighting by taking care of only myself and being responsible for only myself. I am also responsible for my children, however I have put myself first in everything that I do and have discovered that there is a better life out there.

 

The reason I am telling you this is that you said you hope that he will change. Well, as long as you are a VOLUNTEER to let this happen to you then you will continue to live in the problem. It doesn't mean that your children won't have their father it means that you are protecting your children from living in this situation if you do something about it. You do not have to be the one to leave.

Give him one chance to never do this to you again and say this is affecting myself and our children.

If he does it again, you need to get that protection order for the safety of yourself and your children. I do know that if you don't also and the schools or neighbors report anything to Child Protective Services you can get into trouble for "Failure to Protect" your children and might face having them taken from both of you.

Believe me, my children are far from well because of all of this and I pray everyday that God will help me to make the right decisions with this situation and yes Child Protective Services are involved. I almost lost them but was able to show that I removed them from the situation. Get yourself into a support group for women and your children. The State that you live in supplies government funds for these things and you shouldn't have to pay anything. If he says anything to you bad about it I would just say that you feel like you need help for yourself but don't blame him in any way or you may not get to go. He will feel empowered by this thinking that he has gotten you right where he wants you. But in the mean time you will be getting the help you need and your children to. The program here in Wash. State for the kids is called Kids Club and it is very good.

My kids learned about Domestic Violence and how to deal with anger. I was able to get help through this program also. If you need anyone to talk to about this I would be happy to if it would be okay to email me from this site. My email is leilaniharris1@yahoo.com.

 

I am a survivor of Domestic Violence and I am proud to say that my family is finally starting to heal. He is finally seeing how I am growing and is liking the new me. He doesn't treat me bad anymore. He is only respectful and has to be because I demand it. Good luck to you. Do not let anyone take your POWER ever!!!!!!

 

Tell yourself this everyday: HE IS SICK AND DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM. So with that treat him like a cancer patient in the hospital. Do not get angry when he says those things. Just tell him that you do not have to listen to that and you are not going to talk to him if he does not stop. If he persists then do whatever is necessary to remove him or yourself from this situation. If not for your sake right now then do it for the KIDS!

 

Here is the Serenity prayer. "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference."

 

God loves us and wants to protect us and if we allow him, he will do his work.

 

God bless you.

 

Lani

 

 Dear Lani

 

 I totaly agree , Abusive Behaviour shouldn't be tollirate , i am a simple man from the netherlands, and my english is not as native language, but even I know that agressive behaviour has a bad influence to anyone who is a victim

 

I hope U will hold the wisdom to be the person Who U are

 

God bess ya

 

Richard

 
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August 17, 2006, 4:55 pm PDT

God does bless!

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I am a happily married wife. We have been married for almost 8 years and have 2 boys. We have had our issues but we communicate openly and get over the hurdles. My husband vowed to himself when we were dating that he would never say to me that he would regret. He hasn't 10 years later. My parents had a rocky marriage and I saw thing that I would never do, like nag or volunteer him for something with out him being there. I get my hands on any book that comes around to better myself as a wife or as a mother. We are Christians and I don't say that loosely. We run a christian home with Christ as the head. We aren't perfect but we strive to satisfy the other. I am reading a book called, A Woman After God's Own Heart. One of the challenges that the author asks us to do is to ask my husband what can I do for you today. After a while the husband responds back by doing something for you. Mine is he cleans my kitchen if I am at Bible Study or out with girlfriends. My heart aches for marriages that are on the rocks. You can't change the husband but you can change your heart and your attitude. He may think you are crazy when you change your attitude from crabby to happy but over time he will respond. My husband and I have our disagreements but we don't fight. If the heat is rising in the room, one leaves or one stops responding to the argument. God Bless you.

Amen to a good reference, sister. For all you women who may have marriges on the rocks (and even if you don't, it can't hurt) here are some more good reads:

"Power of a Praying WIfe" by Stormie Omaritian

"Captivating" by John and Stasi Eldridge.

Both I've read and both are powerful, as is A woman After God's Own Heart (by Elizabeth George for anyone wanting a copy), and are worth reads whether or not you believe in Christ. Here is the thing, marrige is a partnership. I am about to venture into the work force after almost three years of stay at homeing it for my kids. Why? So I can work with my husband. He is down on employees and has felt he couldn't talk to me because I wouldn't understand his situation. I sacrificed a few hours a week with my kids to be with him and help him. Why? Because I WANT to be his partner. Eve was made for Adam, not as a maid or sexpot, but his "ezer kenegdo" a word meaning sustainer beside him. A helper, companion, compatible partner. We are not meant to be alone or "married singles" when we enter this covenant, we need to be selfless. That is where believing in Christ does help, if you feel you are being selfless and your husband isn't giving, you can get that from the Lord. The thing is, we look for perfection in our relationship that is tarnished by human traits. We base our romance on movies or fairy tales and that just isn't realistic. One wrote that you have to work at being married. IF you aren't willing to do the work, don't go in. And if you are the only one doing the work, that is where prayer helps. So I hope these books can offer insight if you are willing to read them. Remeber, to be successful in marrige (who really wants to fail at that?), you need to be selfless, forgiving and compassionate, all traits of Christ himself. So, as preachy as I may have gotten, thanks to all who beared with it and I hope you realize how important God is in your relationship. I know. It's worked for me and for the lady whose post I replied to.

 
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August 18, 2006, 6:44 am PDT

What's happend to the definition of "marriage"

Although the couples seem to be cooperating with each other more and more towards the end of the show, I don't think it should have gotten so bad so quickly after being married. I think people say their vows and soon forget what those word mean. You don't say "till death do us part" for nothing. I got married at 19 and I feel like I know more about how to make a marriage work than any of the couples on today. Four years later my husband and I still consider ourselves newly weds because we have the same great spark we had when we were high school sweethearts and it keeps getting better. Although I did not do so,  I think everyone who is getting married should be required to go to pre-marital counseling and be forced to seriously think about what it means to be married. It's a lifetime commitment and it should be taken seriously not for granted.
 
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August 18, 2006, 6:46 am PDT

What's happend to the definition of "marriage"

Although the couples seem to be cooperating with each other more and more towards the end of the show, I don't think it should have gotten so bad so quickly after being married. I think people say their vows and soon forget what those word mean. You don't say "till death do us part" for nothing. I got married at 19 and I feel like I know more about how to make a marriage work than any of the couples on today. Four years later my husband and I still consider ourselves newly weds because we have the same great spark we had when we were high school sweethearts and it keeps getting better. Although I did not do so,  I think everyone who is getting married should be required to go to pre-marital counseling and be forced to seriously think about what it means to be married. It's a lifetime commitment and it should be taken seriously not for granted.
 
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August 18, 2006, 9:43 am PDT

Doctor Phil Show.

Challenge Doctor Newly Part Phil Road Show Two Wed.  What not again. I have already seen one- part yesterday and now Part Two. Here we go again. See you today and next week. Well I had bett-

er close now. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.-----------------------------------------------------------------

 

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August 18, 2006, 1:07 pm PDT

08/18 Dr. Phil's Road Show: Newlywed Challenge, Part 2

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Although the couples seem to be cooperating with each other more and more towards the end of the show, I don't think it should have gotten so bad so quickly after being married. I think people say their vows and soon forget what those word mean. You don't say "till death do us part" for nothing. I got married at 19 and I feel like I know more about how to make a marriage work than any of the couples on today. Four years later my husband and I still consider ourselves newly weds because we have the same great spark we had when we were high school sweethearts and it keeps getting better. Although I did not do so,  I think everyone who is getting married should be required to go to pre-marital counseling and be forced to seriously think about what it means to be married. It's a lifetime commitment and it should be taken seriously not for granted.

I took those "Till death do us part" words to heart and really thought my husband and I were in this for the rest of our lives.  Then he left 3 weeks before the one year anniversary and didn't even give a reason (just emptied the house while I was out one day).  He sure jumped ship quickly and I guess he didn't honor those vows.  I keep thinking about them though.  We WENT to premarital counseling and were told that we were getting married for all of the right reasons and that if we nurtured our relationship, we'd probably make it for the rest of our lives.  I just wish I knew what went wrong.

 

 
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August 18, 2006, 1:54 pm PDT

something missing is love

The one thing that Dr Phil didn't ask them was if they really loved each other.  I just didn't see enough chemistry in these couples.  Despite the fighting and arguing, I think that is the one thing that was missing.  I think the last challenge should have been for each to go on a date see if they really had a love connection.  Relationships need nurtured and need both people to participate.

 
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August 18, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT

One of the lucky ones....

I myself got married really young and found myself facing divorce only two months later. Found drugs in my husbands life...heavy ones.He shoot up and beat me up....so was outta there."death do us part" was about to become REAL!!!! I prayed for forgiveness from GOD and asked GOD to help him. I was hurt ,angry ,vulnerable and scared to death. I fell back into my old highschool sweeties life..and arms. We had dated two years ,almost three in highschool. BUT he cheated on me and I left him.NOW there I was later back in his life,forgave him and married him.  He swore he would treat me like a queen and spend rest of his life making up for past,and make me happy. I am gonna tell you it was four years of HELL. He was controlling,verbally abusive, he critisized everything I done.Much like couples I have seen on Dr Phil. We woulda made a great case.I had NO self esteem at all. I was beat down. I thought I had to put up with it because I made vows i was going to stick to."in good times and bad times,for beter for worse....etc" I meant them . But after four years of fighting and abuse,counseling with pastor..and others...leaving two times and coming back....I WOKE UP!!!!A LEOPARD DOESNT CHANGE HIS SPOTS.THIS GUY WAS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. I packed my bags, and left. I had a job.I worked two jobs then. I became friends with someone as I worked.WE TALKED hours and hours on end. Something couldnt do in past marriage. So I fell for this man.He was older than me and that scared me.But we ended up falling in love.We moved in together later. Scared of marriage....swore NEVER again. When he asked I finally said ,"if we can live together for two years and get along good ,then ask me again." It was magical.We had great life for TWO YEARS.Our two years ended on the 14th of month,in August. He asked me to marry him.....we got married on August 31st.  It is as if I went down a rough road for years....and at the end of it was a smooth road .....and the man of my dreams. I think at times I still believe this is just got to be the most fairy tale marriage.14 years ,two kids,and many many things in life we have went through and we do not fight.We work together on EVERYTHING. I know I trust him with my life....and love him so deeply. I just wonder if sometimes people are just not compatable? Do they really LOVE or do they just "say" the words? Do they try? or just not care? I have friends who ask me alot about how I keep my marriage so happy. I say "we are honest,we LIKE eachother ,spend time together, and TALK about everything.......most importantly though we LOVE deeply.
 
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