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November 9, 2005, 8:43 am PST
11/09 Next Generation of Moochers
Quote From: kleesunGood for you, but without knowing more about the daughter I don't see how anyone can judge whether or not she should have been able to stay in school, is employable, etc. While I agree that she doesn't seem to be pulling her own weight and that her dad doesn't sound like he's holding her accountable for anything, nobody here tell from that post how functional or not the girl is at the bottom of it all. "Mental issues" is a very vague description, and I'm sure you know yourself that psychological problems come in a full range of types and severities.
I'm learning disabled (and what I guess could be called "socially disabled"--I have problems interacting with people, which can make if extremely difficult to deal with professors, school counselors, etc.). I went to a good four-year college and graduated, which was something my parents feared I would never be able to do. I would not have been able to do it without their support. Honestly, if they had been as big on "tough love" as some of my friends' parents, I would not have finished high school and , frankly, I probably would have committed suicide a long time ago. I've learned to compensate for my disabilities as I've gotten older, which is a mixed blessing in that I am more functional, but it also makes it even more obvious to me how different I am, which is painful.
I'm a little offended by what seems to me like generalization of the natures of adult children living at home. We're not all spoiled, whining, sponges. I came back home after college initially because I was having a hard time finding a job that I could live on, and my mother was ill and my father needed someone who could help with the housework that she couldn't do. I've been out of college for five years and still live at home, but I have worked full-time the whole time, paid rent, do housework, run errands, paid for my own personal expenses, etc., etc. I finally have a job that pays me decently and that gives me enough benefits that a couple of sick days won't put me behind, but I'm getting ready to go back to school and, once again, will not really have the money to move out. My parents don't mind having me around but they do want me to be self-sufficient (which is why they are letting me stay if I go back to school). They don't pay my expenses.
I hate the term "Boomerang Generation", especially at a time when everyone is complaining about how much harder it is to earn a living. I was paying $200 out-of-pocket a month for health insurance--I was 27, not overweight, never smoked, essentially never drank, never did drugs, did not sleep around, had no preexisting health conditions, etc.. It was ridiculous. I got a sinus infection the week before a job interview and had to go to the doctor. I didn't even get a real exam--the consultation and five antibiotic pills cost me almost $90 WITH INSURANCE. I had to take an unpaid day off work to go.
As far as I can tell, Jay still does quite a bit of work for his dad, and I'm sure that being Dr. Phil's son hasn't hurt his situation in life at all. If Dr. Phil is really going to talk about the Boomerang Generation, how about some discussion of costs of living and diminished employment compensation instead of just pointing out how spoiled and worthless we all are? I hate to see the "kids" on this show held up as examples of my generation and my situation. I agree, I hate the term Boomerrange Generation.
Lets face facts Generation X and now this present Generation HAVE NOT done as well as the BABY BOOMER generation, and its not due to lack of hard work, skills or more. The middle class in this country is disappearing.
I am glad your family has helped and you have been able to contribute to the household. Some families the parents are so rich, and so out of touch that even if the adult son or daughter contributes to the rent, they are resentful and have no understanding of why they have not acheived the same amount of wealth. Some wealthy families share the wealth like with Dr. Phil helping Jay get a step up. But some parents drop kick the kids out the backdoor, after they had grown up in households where such parents shopped for recreation, and never went short of a dollar totally unprepared for what the real world is like or even what MOST jobs pay.
There are jobs now, I have realized PAY THE SAME EXACT AMOUNT that they did back in 1990. Prices have gone far higher.
Unless one owns their own business, has been able to achieve professional status as a doctor, engineer or lawyer, having a "JOB" or even a college degree now, is no guarantee of a sustainable income.
As for the family of 13, I kept finding myself thinking if there wasnt so much resentment, they could have all pulled together and actually all shared in a better standard of living like getting a LARGER place to live.
Its sad when you see 20 and 30 something sons and daughters of upper middle class plus people living in the ghetto, and having to go down to the church pantry for food, because their jobs dont pay enough and going without decent medical care. [this happened to me] One can choose NOT to mooch on parents, but that doesnt always turn out good either. Living in desperate poverty doesnt do wonders for ones health, mental well-being or future.
Families used to pull together in the old days, sharing resources and more. Now the parents throw their kids out once they turn 18 or 21 and say sink or swim. And these same people will be crying in 30 years when same kids shove them into a nursing home. People just dont care about each other anymore.
As for the 36 year old daughter, I wonder why her seemingly well-off parents didnt help her with a job. Why is she working as a waitress? She MAKES NO MONEY. So wonder she feels desperate.
Again Im going back to my theme unless aperson has a steady sustainable income, I dont care if they are a MOOCH or NOT a MOOCH, they wont be able to take care of themselves! If the parents are more centered in resentment rather then trying to actually help their daughter rather then keeping her down....she will not be given any step up.
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