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Created on : Friday, November 04, 2005, 02:51:01 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/10/05) Lies, deceit, sex and scandal. Dr. Phil speaks with husbands and wives who've been caught cheating — and are paying the price. Albert and Camille have been married 11 years, but she hasn't been able to trust him since his affair three years ago. Albert admits to cheating, and says he would do it again if he knew he could get away with a "freebie!" Camille is convinced he's still involved with other women, but Albert says he's not cheating. Then, Danielle and Chris were high school sweethearts, but less than three months after getting married, Danielle found herself in the arms of another man. Numerous affairs later, Danielle is pregnant with another man's child. Can these marriages survive this much betrayal?  Join the discussion.

 

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November 10, 2005, 1:03 pm PST

yes we are out here

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Are any of you out there women who have cheated on their husbands or boyfriends?  I got a lot out of the show from the other side of the fence, so to speak.  What jumped out at me was when he said "would you do this with your wife standing next to you...".   I also wonder why someone stays with people like me.  I doubt I would have stayed with my husband had tables been turned.   

  

  

I had an emotional and sexual affair behind my wonderful husband's back almost three years ago and it haunts me everyday. I wish I had never met the other man because it has caused so much pain. My husband knows about the emotional affair (he found out; I didn't tell him) but he doesn't know about the sexual component. I feel it was my own flaws that caused this, so I should have to live with the guilt. I still have feelings for the other guy, so I avoid him and every day is a struggle. I am like an alcoholic trying to not walk into a bar. My message to all is that adulterers CAN change if they want to bad enough. You just have to really WANT to, and work at it every day.  
 
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November 10, 2005, 1:03 pm PST

Danielle seems to have alot of self esteem problems...

After watching the entire show, it's very clear that Chris is a poor guy who actually loves this girl he married, and wants to stay with her (which is why he MARRIED her to begin with).  Danielle seems to have some serious self-esteem problems... running from man to man to help herself "feel loved"--- the lack of love she has is for HERSELF!  She needs to stop what she's doing, and get some SERIOUS counseling before she causes even more damage to herself (because she WILL look back on this one day if she straightens up and will regret all she has done), to her husband, her family, and importantly to her CHILDREN! 
 
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November 10, 2005, 1:04 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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I have been married for almost 6 1/2 years.  My husband started having an affair a month before we were married.  That affair went on for over a year.  He chose to end the affair and stay with me.  He changed jobs and then finally quit talking to her.  Almost 3 years ago I found out he was talking to her again (by then we had moved across the country to the opposity coast).  He still goes to the West Coast to see his son.  I asked him to quit speaking to her as it hurt me and was the most hurtful thing he could continue to do.  He said he would stop.  Well, I found out recently that he is still talking to her and even had lunch with her recently when he went out to see his son.  She is now marrried, again,(she was then too, but left her husband thinking mine would leave me) and told my husband that her current husband knows all about him.  I don't think they are sleeping together again, but I still feel very cheated on.  Of all the people in the world that he could choose to still be friends with, I believe that this woman (a polite thing to call her) is the last person he should choose.  I don't know what to do.  We have two small children (2 and 3) and I only work part-time and am thousands of miles from my family.    I do know my husband loves me, but he doesn't think about my feelings like he should.  He was raised by a very selfish mother who didn't teach him to show any one respect (nor did she give him any).  I don't think he really understands.  He's highly eduacted, well-employeed, but sometimes just doesn't get it.    I can't leave, but I don't know what to do.  I guess I just needed to vent a little.  Thanks for listening.
So sad!!! I will be praying for you!!!  =(  *hug*
 
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November 10, 2005, 1:05 pm PST

anyone get this show on tape???

I am in a situation similar to Camille and Albert. Unfortunately, I tuned into this show about 15 minutes late. I would have liked to have taped this show in its entirety and watched it with my husband. I see I can purchase a tape of this episode through the Doctor Phil show, however its $30 and I don't have the money to spend on it. Did anyone get this show on tape? I will pay for it and the shipping. Please let me know! Thanks!
 

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November 10, 2005, 1:09 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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I have been dating my boyfriend for 4 years and we are currently both in college.  We attend seperate schools which are 7 hours apart.  Therefore we dont see eachother all that much.  When we are home and physically togehter thigns are wonderful.  But when we are away at school he lies, cheats, and decieves me.  It has gotten to the point where I just am tired of questioning him and alwasy feeling like hes up to somehting.  Last year was his first year away and since we are so young (21) and neither of us is ready to be 100% seroius it was left that the relationship would be open but we werent supposed to get consistent with anyone else and if we did we were supposed to break it off with one another.  Needless to say he started seeing someone behind my back for over 5 months.  I found out about her from her and then he admitted everything.  He then ended things wiht her in hopes that we would work things out.  He has made it clear to her that she is more for convienience and I am the one he is in love with but she is so insecure she will take whatever she can get wtih him.  This happened 2 or 3 times.  We always get back together and then its stressful becuase there is no trust and then I find out he is lying again. This time he says really he is changed and he would never wawnt to hurt me again.  

He makes me feel like I am the center of his world.  He alwasy tells me how much he loves me and we plan a future together.  But I dont want a future with a liar and Im so young I dont want to waste time. I just dont knwo if this is something that he will grow out of because he is immature or if this is one of those cases where I sound like an abused vicitim making excuses.   

I read what you said about your boyfriend of 4 years.  Here is the answer to your question:  He will most likely NOT CHANGE!!!! I know where you're coming from about getting back together-I was treated the same way by a long-term boyfriend, only this was high school and we did not have a long distance relationship.   

  

He does this because he does whatever it takes to get what HE wants, and he gets away with it!  If he loved you , he would not even flirt with another girl, let alone have a 5 month affiar.  He says 'she's needy'- that's an excuse to let himself off the hook! He loves having her worship him and give him attention.  He loves knowing that he gets away with it! 

  

YOU DESERVE SO MUCH BETTER! THERE ARE ACTUALLY MEN OUT THERE THAT WON''T CHEAT!!!

 

I know he makes you feel like the 'center of the world' and you 'plan a future'.  But he is just telling you what you want to hear so he can keep you on the back burner, for whenever he can't get what he wants from another girl.  That ain't love.  He cannot , repeat, cannot be trusted! 

  

P..S. How do I know they don't change?  That old boyfriend from high school:  after almost 5 years of lying, deceit, and cheating, (and swearing he would change)  I'm now fixing to contest a divorce against him, he's spreading a STD, has been rumored to have had threat of a restraining order against him from his last girlfriend and her family, still lies, cheats and manipulates almost everyone he meets, and he still claims to love me, the one he cheated on to begin with!!!  

 

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November 10, 2005, 1:15 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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Camille,  

I understand.  My husband of 10 years cheated on me on a business trip while I was at home 7 months pregnant with our third daughter.  I took him back and we were in counseling for 18 months before he started up again with someone else.  That was the final straw.  I had spent 10 years trying to make him happy.  He went where he wanted when he wanted and I gave him unfaltering trust.  He would say "I'm not going to stay in a marriage just because there is kids."  In other words, "Make me happy or else."  He tried to blame me for his infidelty with comments like "You're a good person, a great mother and your employer is lucky to have you but you are a terrible wife."  I too worried about my children.  However, once I made the decision it felt like the weight of the world was off my shoulders.  I make no apologies to my children and here is why.  What they see if what they become.  I did not want my daughters to think that the way their Dad treated me was okay.  I don't want them in a marriage like mine and think it's normal.  Your boys know more than you think and may well grow up to be like their father if you don't stop the cycle.  My ex's father was a philanderer and bully too.  My ex swore when I married him he would NEVER end up like his father.  Send your son's a message - having children does not give a man a right to hold his wife hostage. 

You are so right.  Men that cheat have no right to make those kinds of excuses (or any excuses!)  I commend you for being strong enough to leave him.  I'm sure you already know this, but you did the right thing.   

  

Thank you for being brave enough to share your story to inspire other women that have been there and suffered through that!   

 
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November 10, 2005, 1:17 pm PST

Boy, do I feel sheepish

Reading the posts have made me really think.  Just last weekend I got so mad at my husband because he plays golf  ALOT and I feel ignored.  I am expecting our first child and I know that our alone time is on the downward spiral. 

My husband is as honest as can be, if he is going to be late coming home from work he calls, when he goes out with friends he is always where he says he is going to be,  he has a long commute everyday, so he always emails me from work so I know he got there safely. 

I guess I shouldn't complain too much about being a "golf widow" when I see what some of you ladies have to live with. 

 
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November 10, 2005, 1:17 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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So sad!!! I will be praying for you!!!  =(  *hug*
   I am so sorry for your pain.  I caught my husband having an affair with a woman he grew up with.  At the time, 4 years ago, we had a 13 month-old and a 3-year old.  We have stayed together, and he treats me very well, but I am realizing that this is a wound that will never heal.
 
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November 10, 2005, 1:19 pm PST

Sorry to hear this

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I found out 6 months ago that my husband had been cheating on me.  We are married over 30 years.  He became friendly with a woman and after a long time they began an affair which has lasted over 3 years.    He ended it when I found out, and since then he has done everything to make amends.  However there are so many questions that I have, and he is getting very tired of answering them, he says it is time to move on.  I just do not believe that he has told me the whole truth and while I do not think he is seeing her at the moment , i think in time they may meet and it will start all over  We live so near to each other.  I keep wanting to go and ask her her side of the story and then I stop myself.  What do others think, should I go and ask her or should I leave it.  I am so upset and I feel so betrayed by my husband and I want to move on and forgive but I am stuck.  I can think of nothing else but his betrayal of me and my family. H e swears it is all over but how do I know. 

What experiences do other wives have about talking to the "Other Woman" 

I do not think that you are going to get passed this without seeking some professional help. Even if your husband will not join you, you need someone to talk this through with. I would not talk with the other woman if I were you. It will just lead you down a path that you don't want to go! The likelyhood that she would talk with you is not very great. Good luck to you, I hope you can find the peace that you need.
 

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November 10, 2005, 1:28 pm PST

to Chris

You both need to go have all the STD tests done, including the blood test for herpes (you have to specifically ask for it).  You can have things like herpes or aids without any immediate symptoms.  Please do not  have unprotected sex with her again. You just have to know that the kind of guys that would do a fat married woman on the sly would do anything.  IMO, your risk of contracting a disease with your wife is extremely high. 

 
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