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(Original Air Date: 11/10/05) Lies, deceit, sex and scandal. Dr. Phil speaks with husbands and wives who've been caught cheating — and are paying the price. Albert and Camille have been married 11 years, but she hasn't been able to trust him since his affair three years ago. Albert admits to cheating, and says he would do it again if he knew he could get away with a "freebie!" Camille is convinced he's still involved with other women, but Albert says he's not cheating. Then, Danielle and Chris were high school sweethearts, but less than three months after getting married, Danielle found herself in the arms of another man. Numerous affairs later, Danielle is pregnant with another man's child. Can these marriages survive this much betrayal?  Join the discussion.

 

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November 10, 2005, 1:40 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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I've been married for a little over 9 years now. I'm a Military wife and we received orders to move so we sold the house and packed everything up and moved.  So I quit this great job that I loved and were I felt so appreciated so that I could go with my husband.  Well after a week of being at our new station my husband decides to tell me that he doesn't love me anymore and he doesn't know if he wants to stay married.  So here I am just hurt after being with this man for so long in a new place with no job and no friends.  Well a week later he was sleeping on the couch and I just had this feeling that I needed to check his cell phone.  So I go through it and at first I really didn't see anything until I checked the text messages.  I found messages from a girl we both knew at his last station stating that she loved him and couldn't wait to be with him.  So I woke him up and asked him and he admitted that he was in love with her and turned to her when I wouldn't talk to him about our problems.  So not knowing what else to do I call my mom and a few days later she came up and we drove back to her house with our 4 year old daughter.  So for about a month of listening to him tell me that he just wants a divorce so he can be happy, I start trying to move on.  I go back and ask for my old job back, then about a week later my old supervisor calls and offers it back to me so I accept.  I start looking for apartments and try to plan a future for my daughter and myself.  A few days later my husband calls and tells me that he is sorry and Love's me very much and wants me to come home.  It was the hardest decision that I have ever had to make in my life.  But, because I still loved him so much I gave up that job again and came home.  Well the first week was fine, then the next he started treating me the same.  He was distant again.  He left the next weekend to meet some of his friends in Dallas for the race, which I wasn't happy with but I didn't say anything because I didn't want to argue.  One of the friends that he met with was one of the most negative people that I ever met especially when it came to marriage.  He told my husband after I left the first time "forget about her, there are many more women in the world."  So when my husband came back I felt the same negativity from him.  A few days later he tells me that he doesn't think he could make this work because he still cares about this other girl too much to just let go.  From what he tells me is that they have never done anything more than a simple kiss the day that we left to come here.  So here I am alone again after giving up everything again to be with him.  I haven't even told anyone what I've been going through because I'm feel ashamed that I let him do this to me again.   

Please don't give up or settle for the way he treats you.  You don't deserve to be treated like this. You shouldn't feel ashamed.  He is the one that should be feeling shamed! He is the one that has done the wrong, not you. 

  

I commend you for being courageous enough to speak out.  You are not alone. This guy is manipulating you. He is lying  and doing whatever he wants while keeping you on the backburner, but   THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT.  You deserve a husband that will treat you right.   

  

Don't be afraid to reach out for help.  Pray about it, tell someone you can trust, be honest with yourself about his behavior.  No woman deserves to be manipulated like that.  

 

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November 10, 2005, 1:40 pm PST

I know how you feel....

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           Hi my name is tracy  I was  Reading your story and i started to get so angry I cant believe this woman had the nerve to show up at your house!!!!   know one can tell you what you should do. Your right its easy for people to say just take the kids and leave. This is your husband you have three beautiful children and a life with him. All i can say is women are different from men. We have more emotion or something i really don't know the answer to why men think between there legs and then crawl back to where there heart takes them . I really think your husband made a big huge mistake but you have to understand something he wasn't looking for love. I bet you any money she approched him and he made a mistake. She wants what you have  She can't have it.. Look you are a  better person than she is.Don't let her make you feel bad or mess with your self esteem. She is the one with no self esteem. know matter what she looks like she is an ugly person. It's gonna take some time. I think you and your husband should take a long week-end  to cancun or somewhere and get to know each other again (no kids )  so stay strong and i hope  everything works out for you your husband and the kids.

I've asked myself all the same questions.  How does someone who vows to be true to you, and love you and honor you all the days of your lives---how do they feel that it's ok to break your heart in tiny little pieces.  How can they feel it's ok to pull their love from your heart, when you've done all you ever could do to be there for them.  Why, why, would anyone jeopardize their family, a child included, for some cheap slut? In my case, he cheated with her, broke it off for 2 years (I thought things were going along peachy). and in those 2 years she became pregnant with her 4th child by an unknown person (to me).  Why would he go back to such a situation.  I don't think I'll ever understand it.  Some people are just "broken in the head."  I don't want to be one of them. 

The saddest thing, is that I still love who I married---and when he acts lovingly, I just cave.  It's hard to get over.  I'll pray for us all!  God bless us, everyone. 

 
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November 10, 2005, 1:45 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

I was almost in a similar situation as the second couple, Danielle and Chris. Me and my boyfriend have been together for 7 years. He cheated on me 4 years ago with his best friend and his wife. They had a second child shortly after that had happened. My boyfriend thought that his friends daughter was actually his and his friends wifes child. He never told anyone this until he spilled the beans to me a year ago. I wouldn't have been able to handle the fact that he had a child with this woman [I'm being nice]. I would have left him for that reason. I would've resented that child and most likelywould've been mean to her and she doesn't deserve that it's not her fault. Well I have talked to his friend about this and he asures me there is absolutely no way that the child is my boyfriends. I have decided to stay with him and I feel that I have made the right decision. I'm happy with him. I love him with allmy heart and soul and I know he loves me. We have our problems like anyone else but we are happy.
 
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November 10, 2005, 1:48 pm PST

depressed and broken hearted

I seen your show today,and ironically 2 days ago I found condoms in my partners going out of town luggage.  I have been making myself sick physically over the situation. The show has given me alot to think about.
 
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November 10, 2005, 1:54 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

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I have been dating my boyfriend for 4 years and we are currently both in college.  We attend seperate schools which are 7 hours apart.  Therefore we dont see eachother all that much.  When we are home and physically togehter thigns are wonderful.  But when we are away at school he lies, cheats, and decieves me.  It has gotten to the point where I just am tired of questioning him and alwasy feeling like hes up to somehting.  Last year was his first year away and since we are so young (21) and neither of us is ready to be 100% seroius it was left that the relationship would be open but we werent supposed to get consistent with anyone else and if we did we were supposed to break it off with one another.  Needless to say he started seeing someone behind my back for over 5 months.  I found out about her from her and then he admitted everything.  He then ended things wiht her in hopes that we would work things out.  He has made it clear to her that she is more for convienience and I am the one he is in love with but she is so insecure she will take whatever she can get wtih him.  This happened 2 or 3 times.  We always get back together and then its stressful becuase there is no trust and then I find out he is lying again. This time he says really he is changed and he would never wawnt to hurt me again.  

He makes me feel like I am the center of his world.  He alwasy tells me how much he loves me and we plan a future together.  But I dont want a future with a liar and Im so young I dont want to waste time. I just dont knwo if this is something that he will grow out of because he is immature or if this is one of those cases where I sound like an abused vicitim making excuses.   

Let him go, honey. 

  

You are young and absolutely free to enjoy your life without having to be true to some out of state boyfriend. 
  

PLEASE DO NOT GET PREGNANT.  

  

YOU WILL BE TRAPPED FOREVER AND HE WILL STILL NOT BE THERE FOR YOU. 

  

He is young and is doing what he is suppose to do; and that is run around and play the field. God bless him. I applaud him. I do not applaud his emotional abuse of you by holding on to you while he is enjoying his freedom and life. 

  

Be with him when you see him, if you want, and without strings attached. Otherwise, go out date, have fun, enjoy this time of your life. I am here to tell you that when you leave school you are going to understand that you should have enjoyed this moment in time, because it will never come back again. 

  

Stop wasting time, thought, and emotion on this boy. 

  

You are young, probably beautiful, and guys are panting to be with you. Enjoy your time at college. Be responsible, protect yourself, and enjoy dating without stress. 

  

Why are you wasting energy and emotion on questioning this guy about his fidelity and behavior. Leave Him Alone And Worry About Your Own Happiness. 

  

Take Your Power Back. 

  

Drop him as a boyfriend.  

  

YOU DO NOT NEED A BOYFRIEND IN COLLEGE.  

(Don't stress over no dude) 

  

Dear John this fellow and get on with the business of education, partying responsibly with your friends, and enjoying college without the restraints of some long distance relationship with a boy who is doing what he is suppose to do at this time in his life. 

  

Honey, THIS TIME IS ALL ABOUT YOU! 

  

FOOTLOOSE AND FANCY-FREE! 

  

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** I have two college graduated daughters so I must add this, in enjoying the college experience, unencumbered, beware that binge drinking kills: drink responsibly. KNOW YOUR LIMITS OR DON'T DRINK AT ALL. 

  

Do not drink and drive -- One better do not get into a car with a driver who has had a drink. THIS IS AN UNBREAKABLE RULE. I do not care that he/she is capable of walking a straight line. He/She should not have had a drink knowing that they would be driving. CALL A CAB, CALL A FRIEND. 

  

NO DRUGS: Self-explanatory. No Exceptions. NO DRUGS. 

  

DON'T DO IT, NO MATTER WHAT! NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON OR EXCUSE. JUST DON'T DO IT!!!!!!   PROTECT YOURSELF AND PROTECT HIM FROM AN UGLY EXPERIENCE AND FUTURE! Don't cry foul if you accompany some boy/man to his dorm room/hotel room at 2am. It is not rape. Don't destroy his life crying rape, when you are smart enough to know that the implication in a man's mind is that he is "going to get him some..." You don't take a man to the "sticking" point and then decide that you have changed your mind. Emotionally immature men/boys are incapable of stopping once they have your initial consent. Protect yourself by not accompanying him to his room, otherwise do not cry foul. You knew and we knew what would happen and you do not have the right to ruin that person's life because you changed your mind. 

  

Also, be aware of the fact that cameras are everywhere; know your environment and realize that if you are not careful your sexual act could be viewed on the internet the next day. 

  

By the way, it is possible to have a great time without alcohol, sex, and drugs. Good conversation, joking, dancing, and laughing with your friends and dates and just loving life and youth will make you fly. 

  

ATTEND ALL CLASSES!   EDUCATION IS KEY TO A VERY SUCCESSFUL LIFE! 

  

My daughters are safely and happily graduated from university AND without incidence.  

  

ENJOY YOUR LIFE WITHOUT STRINGS RESPONSIBLY.  

 
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November 10, 2005, 2:00 pm PST

How do u move on or can you

Quote From: sunsign

I had an emotional and sexual affair behind my wonderful husband's back almost three years ago and it haunts me everyday. I wish I had never met the other man because it has caused so much pain. My husband knows about the emotional affair (he found out; I didn't tell him) but he doesn't know about the sexual component. I feel it was my own flaws that caused this, so I should have to live with the guilt. I still have feelings for the other guy, so I avoid him and every day is a struggle. I am like an alcoholic trying to not walk into a bar. My message to all is that adulterers CAN change if they want to bad enough. You just have to really WANT to, and work at it every day.  
I had a similar situation the only difference is mine was 4 yrs ago.  Thank God for my hubby taking me back, I felt like i did it out of anger and i have really low self esteem. After 3 yrs of basically being ignored by him and then one nite during one of our many fights he said "by the way u r fat" .  I got my kid and went to my moms for a month and while i was gone was when i met this other guy. Who happened to work with my husband.  I knew he would find out about it since he worked with him and i didn't care i think i wanted to hurt him as much as he had hurt me with his words.  So now 4 yrs later we are still together and 2mos ago i caught him at the local bar with his ex girlfriend and one of her friends.  She is married too.  When i walked him i just said is that HER and he just looked at me and i walked out. Of course he followed me and decided to tell me this was a long time coming and i deserved it,  But he swears nothing happened.  He said he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. So i guess we r trying to work things out again.
 
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November 10, 2005, 2:01 pm PST

I thought of that...

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Do Exactly What You Said And Leave The Children With Him.
Actually, I didn't point out that my husband is an amazing dad (I wouldn't marry or stay with anyone who wasn't responsible enough to be with his OWN children).  So, my idea still stands!
 
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November 10, 2005, 2:08 pm PST

11/10 Infidelity Aftermath

Quote From: sunsign

I had an emotional and sexual affair behind my wonderful husband's back almost three years ago and it haunts me everyday. I wish I had never met the other man because it has caused so much pain. My husband knows about the emotional affair (he found out; I didn't tell him) but he doesn't know about the sexual component. I feel it was my own flaws that caused this, so I should have to live with the guilt. I still have feelings for the other guy, so I avoid him and every day is a struggle. I am like an alcoholic trying to not walk into a bar. My message to all is that adulterers CAN change if they want to bad enough. You just have to really WANT to, and work at it every day.  

I also had an affair but my husband knows because I told him.  Now I don't know if we are going to make it through this.  Between my struggles with it and his, it makes life very hard on us both.   

We have been married for 22 years and it seems like now we may lose it all because of my mistake. 

 
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November 10, 2005, 2:15 pm PST

Take Your Power Back!

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So sad!!! I will be praying for you!!!  =(  *hug*

  

If you are willing to turn a blind eye to what he is doing and doing to you, at least do this: 

  

First make a list, decide how much money you are going to need to start anew, and start saving money. DO NOT TOUCH THIS MONEY NO MATTER WHAT.  

  

SAVE SAVE SAVE!  

MONEY IS POWER! 

  

Once you have enough money to start over, make a decision: Stay or leave! 

  

If you decide to remain in the marriage, continue to save save save. The next time if anything comes up AND you want to leave you have the means. No excuses. 

  

Good Luck! 

 
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November 10, 2005, 2:22 pm PST

Be happy

Quote From: mistyc

Reading the posts have made me really think.  Just last weekend I got so mad at my husband because he plays golf  ALOT and I feel ignored.  I am expecting our first child and I know that our alone time is on the downward spiral. 

My husband is as honest as can be, if he is going to be late coming home from work he calls, when he goes out with friends he is always where he says he is going to be,  he has a long commute everyday, so he always emails me from work so I know he got there safely. 

I guess I shouldn't complain too much about being a "golf widow" when I see what some of you ladies have to live with. 

Don't feel sheepish.  Be happy.  But, let your husband know you'd like to spend more time with him now.  When the children come, your time with your husband diminishes even more.  He needs to focus more time on you right now so that it's a habit when the kids do come.  Plus, he needs to be there more for you and the children when they come.  If he's not there now, who's going to help you when you need it with the baby?  Let him know you love him and you know he loves you, but make the changes now before it does get to be a problem.
 
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